Tottenham Vs Swansea: Match Thread

[Chris12]

Because maybe Poch wants more of a goal threat?

So Townsends playing because....? Dembele offers a threat of just gliding past players and taking them out of the game, and some defenders actually seem to fear that.

 

[mpickard2087]

Play him on the left and make him run at his his man. He's got a decent cross on him, and Kane's the perfect type of striker for that. I don't have a problem with inverted wingers, but I find that if both your wingers are inverted you're just making yourself too narrow. It means your width has to come from the full backs and ours just don't do enough offensively.

He should do this, because it isn't working for him on the right. If he got on the outside and put in crosses then he has Chadli and Kane as targets also. On paper not a bad combination, with Chadli joining Kane in the box... But we have to set-up that way first, and doesn't look like happening.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

#Swans team v @SpursOfficial: Fabianski, Naughton, Fernandez, Williams (capt), Taylor, Ki, Cork, Shelvey, Sigurdsson, Routledge, Gomis.

Don't get why some Spurs fans are so confident here, like the win is a formality...

We've seen far, far worse teams than above come to the lane and dominate us.

There are 4-5 genuine goal threats in that team.

Think we are in for a tough game tonight, regardless of Swansea's away record.

 

[Chris12]

Naughts, Siggy and Routledge to score just for bantz.

Vorm to come on and score a worldy from a goal kick, Davies x2 off the bench.

 

[Blake Griffin]

I think he's also at a complete loss for confidence. Remember the goal he scored against Monaco in preseason two summers ago? I don't even remember the last time we saw Townsend play so crisply and decisively. I think he's now terrified of failure, just like the rest of our attackers.

he's had the good and the bad coached out of him, now all we're left with is a bit of a nothing player. when he works himself into a shooting position you can almost see his brain going into overdrive because he's not allowed to do what he naturally thinks is right. i don't know why he and chadli are starting, i thought we found "the team" against arsenal, not sure why poch has seemingly moved away from that.

 

[gushayes11]

#Swans team v @SpursOfficial: Fabianski, Naughton, Fernandez, Williams (capt), Taylor, Ki, Cork, Shelvey, Sigurdsson, Routledge, Gomis.

Don't get why some Spurs fans are so confident here, like the win is a formality...

We've seen far, far worse teams than above come to the lane and dominate us.

There are 4-5 genuine goal threats in that team.

Think we are in for a tough game tonight, regardless of Swansea's away record.

I'd only say that a lot of teams come here sit back and frustrate. This Swansea team looks pretty attacking to me so I'm more optimistic playing them than a West Brom etc.

 

[wiggo24]

#Swans team v @SpursOfficial: Fabianski, Naughton, Fernandez, Williams (capt), Taylor, Ki, Cork, Shelvey, Sigurdsson, Routledge, Gomis.

Don't get why some Spurs fans are so confident here, like the win is a formality...

We've seen far, far worse teams than above come to the lane and dominate us.

There are 4-5 genuine goal threats in that team.

Think we are in for a tough game tonight, regardless of Swansea's away record.

Agreed. Their back 4 is solid, and I think both Ki and Shelvey are really underrated. They both score big goals, and I think when Ki plays well, they all do.

Routledge has pace to hurt us, Siggy will score because we're Spurs, and Gomis was always overshadiwed by Bony, but he's actually quite a good player. Lots of strong players, and they've sat deep and countered before (eg Utd). That tends to screw us over.

 

[yojambo]

Interesting that Mourinho has kept the same team too, well only changed the GK.

 

[Phomesy]

To state the bleeding obvious we could really do with not just a result, but a commanding performance tonight. Just to dislodge any monkeys that might have taken up residence on the players' backs.

COYS!

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

No changes at all, more of the same. Wow. Well, I sure hope they have a cracking game.
And that Mason shoots one time less and finds one decisive pass one time more.

 

[prawnsandwich]

This really isn't necessary is it?

Fine that you don't think players offer much but silly name-calling?

It is silly-but mild compared to the vitriol dished to Ade and Andros.

 

[gushayes11]

Interesting that Mourinho has kept the same team too, well only changed the GK.[/QUOTE


And Willian.

 

[allpaths]

Yeah absolutely agreed. The best thing about him initially last season was his fearlessness. Now he's even more scared of taking risks than Lamela.

I hate to say it, but I think the only thing that's going to save his career is a change in scenery and the relief of some of the pressure on himself. I like the lad a lot and love his commitment to Spurs, but I think it's that overwhelming desire to succeed at Spurs that's providing the foundation for that massive mental block in his mind. Would love for him to find a way to get around it at Spurs though.

agree think he needs to spend two three seasons at a mid table side where he'd play every week, here that sunderland might have a spot opening up lol. But it's too bad. think physically he has everything to be a perfect wide player for us. Pace, strength, duel-footed and good work ethic.upstairs there just too much that is left desired

Play him on the left and make him run at his his man. He's got a decent cross on him, and Kane's the perfect type of striker for that. I don't have a problem with inverted wingers, but I find that if both your wingers are inverted you're just making yourself too narrow. It means your width has to come from the full backs and ours just don't do enough offensively.

In the modern game i think traditional wingers don't offer enough threat when teams park the bus. Since there isn't enough space for them to run in behind there markers. Think the best wide players can do both and vary there play throughout the match so they don't become predictable. To me if we r playing with inverted wingers on of them has to stay wide to keep shape while the other is trying to find space. it's a balancing act think chadli's decent at it when he is fit.

 

[DaSpurs]

he's had the good and the bad coached out of him, now all we're left with is a bit of a nothing player. when he works himself into a shooting position you can almost see his brain going into overdrive because he's not allowed to do what he naturally thinks is right. i don't know why he and chadli are starting, i thought we found "the team" against arsenal, not sure why poch has seemingly moved away from that.

Tbh I didn't think that team was all that, and I think people didn't lend enough credit to the fact Wenger simply picked the wrong team that day. That having been said, every time I watch Chadli play winger if frustrates me even more as he is simply not a winger. I like having Townsend on there to at least supply some sort of stretch and pace as no one else has it, and especially not a lineup consisting of both Eriksen and Dembele, but I do think the argument for Dembele on instead of Chadli holds some merit.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Wow, i am really surprised he hasn't rotated at all, would completely understand if we had won on the weekend but we didn't, on top of the fact that both Chadli and Andros were rather poor to say the least. Saying that we really should be winning this won so i'm still feeling positive.

 

[yankspurs]

It is silly-but mild compared to the vitriol dished to Ade and Andros.

I dont see anyone calling Townsend names or any vitriol toward him. It's just pointing out that he doesnt add much to the team outside of his pace. He's not crossing the ball and now, this year, instead of the constant shooting into row z, he's barely shooting. It's the same frustration with him that we had last year, albeit a different complaint. I'm not sure how that qualifies as vitriol or name calling, but to each his own I guess.

As for Ade, do we really need to go over it again and again and again? Havent we beaten that topic to death already?

 

[prawnsandwich]

Interesting that Mourinho has kept the same team too, well only changed the GK.

He hardly rotates. And never moans about tired players.

 

[carpediem991]

Paulinho ahead of Stambouli, Winks, Onomah, Capoue or Chirpy doesnt get in my head.

 

[DaSpurs]

agree think he needs to spend two three seasons at a mid table side where he'd play every week, here that sunderland might have a spot opening up lol. But it's too bad. think physically he has everything to be a perfect wide player for us. Pace, strength, duel-footed and good work ethic.upstairs there just too much that is left desired

Entirely agreed. Physically has it all, just has to figure out a way to appropriately use the tools he has.

In the modern game i think traditional wingers don't offer enough threat when teams park the bus. Since there isn't enough space for them to run in behind there markers. Think the best wide players can do both and vary there play throughout the match so they don't become predictable. To me if we r playing with inverted wingers on of them has to stay wide to keep shape while the other is trying to find space. it's a balancing act think chadli's decent at it when he is fit.

Also agreed. There now has to be balance, and that can even come from one player. Players which are too inverted, such as Lamela, struggle because they're too easy to defend inside; and players which are too traditional, such as Lennon, struggle as they're too easy to show to the byline and then close down. This is why Ribery's been so successful, as you literally have no idea where he's going to go, along with his quality. It's also why I really like Georgiou, our young academy player, as he's very good about attacking whatever angle is exposed to him rather than choosing to go an angle he feels comfortable with. That he can do that from either flank is absolutely fantastic, and a huge advantage for him as he comes into the modern game.

 

[Phomesy]

It is silly-but mild compared to the vitriol dished to Ade and Andros.

Two wrongs and all that.

I'm sympathetic with your take on Ade and Andros - but posts like the one before don't help your cause - or theirs, imo.