Trust meeting with the board

['O Zio]

Once we have a naming rights partner, cant it just be *insert brand here* Stadium at White Hart Lane or something like that?

We theoretically could but it would probably mean having to sell the rights at a much lower rate so we almost certainly won't. Whoever pays the money to sponsor the name will not want anything associated with the old name because it just encourages people to keep calling it by the old name rather than the sponsored name.

 

[pffft]

Literally the least relevant part of what I posted over.

I completely agree.

But "least relevant" is still relevant right? So I can still point out that it's bollocks and then we can have a little joke about it...right?
Because if it's not right, then I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you mate.

 

[Saoirse]

Would he expect to go cheaper if it was his local Odeon cinema which he had been visiting for years after it had been refurbed?

It's not the same though. Sports are special and that should be recognised. You don't tend to have an emotional connection with your local Odious - if they jack up the prices, frisk you at the entrance, spam you with 40 minutes of adverts and then say "but the seats are nicer!", you'll tell them where to stick it and go to watch the movie somewhere else. If Tottenham do the same thing, you aren't going to say "well fine then, I guess I'll go and support West Ham". The free market approach doesn't really work when the consumers don't see themselves as consumers and there's no real competition once a fan has been secured. Ideally that should be officially recognised and protected, but it's still wrong to rip-off people who've supported the club loyally for decades and would still be doing so if we were at White Hart Lane, relegated to the Championship watching Tactics Tim swan around with his new star striker Matt Derbyshire just as they will when we happen to be going into a new stadium in the Champions League with Pochettino and Kane.

 

[pffft]

We theoretically could but it would probably mean having to sell the rights at a much lower rate so we almost certainly won't. Whoever pays the money to sponsor the name will not want anything associated with the old name because it just encourages people to keep calling it by the old name rather than the sponsored name.

Well the sponsor is probably going to be upset then. I don't see me calling it anything other then "The New Lane", and I very much doubt I'm alone in that.

 

['O Zio]

Well the sponsor is probably going to be upset then. I don't see me calling it anything other then "The New Lane", and I very much doubt I'm alone in that.

Obviously but for TV etc. where they're obliged to call it by the official name, having WHL in the new name will only prologue the time it takes people to get used to the new name so is obviously not desirable to a potential sponsor.

 

[Tott66]

Correct me if i'm wrong but arent loyalty points these days worked out over 4 seasons?

I reckon someone who's had a ST for 50 years should be allowed to choose their seat first in the new ground ahead of everyone else

 

[Gb160]

We're not going to be able to pay our players what they're worth by giving 1/4 of the stadium subsidised seats lads.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Would he expect to go cheaper if it was his local Odeon cinema which he had been visiting for years after it had been refurbed?

Haha Come on mate your not seriously comparing going to the cinema with watching a football club that you've loved all your life?

 

[eViL]

Well the sponsor is probably going to be upset then. I don't see me calling it anything other then "The New Lane", and I very much doubt I'm alone in that.

I don't think the sponsor will give a shit what the fans call it as long as they pronounce it right on the telly.

 

[eViL]

I see we're in that 'Why don't we pay our players what they're worth and make my seat cheaper territory again.'

I hope you're ready for your £10 cones of chips people!

 

['O Zio]

Haha Come on mate your not seriously comparing going to the cinema with watching a football club that you've loved all your life?

Why not? Levy is running a business, so is whoever runs Odeon. Like I said before, it's a nice romantic idea that the club are "so much more" but the whole game has been purely about business for decades now, catch up.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Just got to wait I guess to see what the season ticket prices will be and what we new season ticket holders get offered ... hope it's worth the travel nightmares

 

[Johnny J]

Calling it Tottenham Hotspur Stadium instead of White Hart Lane? Really? I mean, it will be sitting on the grounds of the Lane...

Once we have a naming rights partner, cant it just be *insert brand here* Stadium at White Hart Lane or something like that?

Whoever buys the naming rights will not want the ground to still be known - so far as possible - informally as White Hart Lane, which would be a higher risk if the club didn't go with the neutral placeholder name of Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

That's why the club is going with that as the temporary name. There's more chance of the new name getting traction, and thereby more commercial appeal, if the club publicly shows that it's making a clean break from the old name.

 

['O Zio]

It's not the same though. Sports are special and that should be recognised. You don't tend to have an emotional connection with your local Odious - if they jack up the prices, frisk you at the entrance, spam you with 40 minutes of adverts and then say "but the seats are nicer!", you'll tell them where to stick it and go to watch the movie somewhere else. If Tottenham do the same thing, you aren't going to say "well fine then, I guess I'll go and support West Ham". The free market approach doesn't really work when the consumers don't see themselves as consumers and there's no real competition once a fan has been secured. Ideally that should be officially recognised and protected, but it's still wrong to rip-off people who've supported the club loyally for decades and would still be doing so if we were at White Hart Lane, relegated to the Championship watching Tactics Tim swan around with his new star striker Matt Derbyshire just as they will when we happen to be going into a new stadium in the Champions League with Pochettino and Kane.

But that's exactly the point I was making before. The fans don't see themselves as consumers but they are, and the clubs all view them as such. The club making the identical new West Stand and East Stand the same price is just common sense from a business/consumer perspective. If fans still want to delude themselves that in this day and age they are anything but a consumer as far as the club is concerned then that's up to them, that isn't the club's fault.

Just for the record I'm not saying I like that this is the case, far from it, but I'm just not kidding myself that the club give a rats arse about whether I've been going for however many years and love the club and all that. I accept the fact that Premier League football is now primarily a business venture as far as owners etc. are concerned and from a business perspective it makes complete sense and isn't the least bit "unfair"

 

[BPR_U16]

Correct me if i'm wrong but arent loyalty points these days worked out over 4 seasons?

I reckon someone who's had a ST for 50 years should be allowed to choose their seat first in the new ground ahead of everyone else

No - as you buy your season ticket so you lose all your points gained over the previous seasons as a member. In my, and both sons, case we lost all the points gained over previous seasons because we were finally able to get a season ticket. On average we had been managed to get tickets for 12-15 games a season - so many points lost.

Not saying those long standing season ticket holders shouldn't have first dibs, but something should be taken into account for those who have lost hundreds of points when getting season ticket this year.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

No - as you buy your season ticket so you lose all your points gained over the previous seasons as a member. In my, and both sons, case we lost all the points gained over previous seasons because we were finally able to get a season ticket. On average we had been managed to get tickets for 12-15 games a season - so many points lost.

Not saying those long standing season ticket holders shouldn't have first dibs, but something should be taken into account for those who have lost hundreds of points when getting season ticket this year.

You managed to get tickets to 12-15 away games as a member?

Loyalty points for ST holders & Members was always a completely separate thing and now your ST holders

Yes members lost all their points but we are talking about season ticket holders, some of whom who have been shelling out thousands and thousands of pounds over many many years

I still think that someone who has maybe been to virtually every home game in the last 30+ years should be allowed to pick his seat infront of a ST holder who’s only had that ST for 5/6 years potentially

 

[jonnyrotten]

I understand that people don't like having to pay more for their ticket but the East Stand was cheaper at WHL because it was an old stand with obscured views and didn't have the same facilities as the West Stand. If the East and West stands at the new stadium are going to be identical then of course they're going to be the same price. You can't charge two different prices for the same product it doesn't make any sense. Like I say, I understand why people are annoyed but the club are completely justified in doing it IMO.

IMO thats why the club should have differentiated the offer. More facilities on West, cheaper on East. It's the oldest trick in the business book (see 1st and 2nd class post/travel) because it gives an entry point to more people, in line with their expectations of value.

The East Stand loses its uniqueness and on my view thats the one real disappointment with an otherwise fantastic stadium build.

 

[spursfan77]

Just got to wait I guess to see what the season ticket prices will be and what we new season ticket holders get offered ... hope it's worth the travel nightmares

I doubt anything will be cheaper than a grand.

 

[BPR_U16]

You managed to get tickets to 12-15 away games as a member?

Loyalty points for ST holders & Members was always a completely separate thing and now your ST holders

Yes members lost all their points but we are talking about season ticket holders, some of whom who have been shelling out thousands and thousands of pounds over many many years

I still think that someone who has maybe been to virtually every home game in the last 30+ years should be allowed to pick his seat infront of a ST holder who’s only had that ST for 5/6 years potentially

I agree long standing ST holders should get preferential treatment.

My concern is how you distinguish those who have had ST for only this season when all previous points lost. As say over last few seasons we were going to 12-15 home fixtures a season.
We used to go to pre season friendlies, all the league + fa cup games, went to all European games at Wembley last season and then managed to get ballot seats for about 5 games last year.
We worked bloody hard building up those points to try and get to the real big games. Then they were all just taken away.....

Have followed Spurs since 67 been a member since 90 but only last five years or so had free time at weekends to get to WHL more frequently.
Wembley has been a blessing for me to get a season ticket, with the lads who only became members 3 years ago and were miles down the waiting list.
Would just like to think that somewhere down the line the points acquired as a member may be considered when deciding an order for choosing seat for next season.

 

[FreddieYid]

Erm, sorry, what? There's absolutely no way anyone can guarantee that.

Basically like WHL, we will always come out onto the same end.

You never see teams swap ends after the coin toss anymore. The stadiums are huge now and low sun is rarely a problem in modern top tier stadiums which was often a reason that a team would swap ends, hence why you never see keepers in baseball caps anymore, just Cech in his silly rugby headwear.

So no we can’t be 100% certain, but it will happen more or less all the time.