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UEFA Scraps Away Goals

Maxtremist

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Starting from this upcoming season, all UEFA competitions will no longer feature the Away Goals rule. So no more nights like Ajax and Man City for us. Thoughts?

(apologies if there was already a thread about this...)
 

Ashley1974

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I think this is a shame.

the whole flip flop between "We're out! We're through! We're out!" will be sorely missed, when it is replaced with "We're out! We're not out! We're out!"
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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Damn, it was like the offside where people who had no clue, just had no clue. its what sorted the men from the boys, the wheat from the chaff. PC gone mad I tell you!!!!!!!
 

al_pacino

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Good.

I know you need to separate the teams after two legs and penalties are also rubbish but really 0-0 is no worse result than 1-1 in the away game.
 

defoes5

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Was the only way in football you could go from loosing to winning in one kick, shame it’s gone, in the same way as golden goal is added that bit of drama and ecstasy to the game which of course we knew all about in 2019 CL run
 

fatpiranha

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So long as the excitement is maintained by replacing away goals count double with a game of Russian roulette between the two captains I'm fine with it :meh:.
 

Marty

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I've never had strong feelings either way but after reading this guy's thread I feel it's a bit of a shame it's gone.

 

Maxtremist

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Is this a good thing or bad thing, I can't work it out?

I can't fully figure out which side I'm on. I think overall the away goals rule was a bit outdated. For every one of our Ajax games were there was excitement and all that, I feel like there was a team that went through on a boring 1-1 draw after a 0-0 home leg.

This likely does favour the team who gets the second leg at home as if it does go to extra time they have their fans there and all that but I think overall just having the team that won go through makes sense. As fun as Ajax and City were for us, I think out and out winning will always be that bit more satisfying.
 

Marty

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Is this a good thing or bad thing, I can't work it out?
It prevents ridiculous scenarios like Milan progressing on away goals against Inter despite both games being played at San Siro. But those scenarios are so rare that I don't find them a convincing argument against the rule. The games we saw where two ties were played in Spain or in Budapest this last season were exceptional circumstances that will hopefully never be repeated.

The main benefit of the rule is the added jeopardy where one single goal can turn a losing position into a winning one rather than just a drawing one, which is unique in football to away goals rule-games, with the added benefit of fewer games going to extra time (if you think that is a benefit). The thread I posted above is the most convincing argument for the rule I've read.
 

'O Zio

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Honestly I've never been a fan of away goals. As much as people like to quote the "But what about THAT game" type stories, I can remember (or rather, not remember depending on how you look at it) loads of second leg ties where it's uninteresting before it even kicks off cos you know one team just needs a single goal to virtually close the game off. Likewise I remember plenty of time where one team is pulling off a remarkable comeback, but then the other team scores one goal and it totally kills it because of away goals.

People have always argued about it saying that it'll encourage teams to be more defensive in the first leg away, but to be honest I reckon in practice the whole thing is six of one, half a dozen of the other. Even if the away team play more defensively, the home team will be more likely to come out and play because they're less nervous about giving away these crucial away goals.

If anything I reckon it will take a couple of years where there are some funny scores but eventually it will settle down to about the same as it is now, but without this largely illogical rule. It'sll just be down to who scores the most goals. Simple.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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IIRC the rule was originally brought in partly because teams would go to the away leg and shut up shop, this was back when defensive football was all the rage and much easier to do. It was an encouragement to play a more open style.

Nowadays that isn't so relevant so I can understand it a bit but i'll still miss it. Also, it's meddling for meddlings sake. Another example of them doing shitty little things because they can, because the big changes, the things they should be looking at, they just aren't interested in doing. Do away with the format of this, get rid of the CWC, this little things, that little things each chipping away at the game, loads of stuff the fans don't particularly want or even in some cases care about while corruption, breaching fair play, clubs resorting ot ESL etc etc just aren't addressed.

It all promotes the illusion that they 'care' about the game when the reality is, they are royally fucking it up from within, they are so out of touch with what football fans want it's beyond a joke. Money. There's their interest.
 

wirE

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UEFA with yet another brilliant idea to smolder football. I fancy the 2 leg knockout with away goals
 
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al_pacino

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IIRC the rule was originally brought in partly because teams would go to the away leg and shut up shop, this was back when defensive football was all the rage and much easier to do. It was an encouragement to play a more open style.

I think more recently it has made the home team more defensive. Keeping the away side out became top priority.
 

'O Zio

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IIRC the rule was originally brought in partly because teams would go to the away leg and shut up shop, this was back when defensive football was all the rage and much easier to do. It was an encouragement to play a more open style.

Nowadays that isn't so relevant so I can understand it a bit but i'll still miss it. Also, it's meddling for meddlings sake. Another example of them doing shitty little things because they can, because the big changes, the things they should be looking at, they just aren't interested in doing. Do away with the format of this, get rid of the CWC, this little things, that little things each chipping away at the game, loads of stuff the fans don't particularly want or even in some cases care about while corruption, breaching fair play, clubs resorting ot ESL etc etc just aren't addressed.

It all promotes the illusion that they 'care' about the game when the reality is, they are royally fucking it up from within, they are so out of touch with what football fans want it's beyond a joke. Money. There's their interest.

I get what you're saying about there being bigger things to worry about. But I don't think this is meddling for meddlings sake. Every year there are games that are ruined by the away goals rule and every year there are a certain number of fans, pundit s etc saying that it's about time we scrapped it. This isn't just something UEFA have pulled out of nowhere it gets debated all the time.
 

'O Zio

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UEFA with yet another brilliant idea to smolder football. I fancy the 2 leg knockout.

Either you e misunderstood something or I've misunderstood your post. They're not scrapping 2 legged knockouts. They're just saying away goals will no longer be used as a deciding factor if the scores are drawn on aggregate.
 

wirE

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Either you e misunderstood something or I've misunderstood your post. They're not scrapping 2 legged knockouts. They're just saying away goals will no longer be used as a deciding factor if the scores are drawn on aggregate.

Cheers. I was a bit premature before posting. Updated now
 
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