Vertonghen: Poch's approach will come good

[mawspurs]

Jan backing his manager.

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[Gaz_Gammon]

I am all for a manager being driven by stats and the like but at the end of the day points make prizes. Long road ahead and not one for the faint hearted.

With regards to Verts i cannot see him staying if we have no European football next season.

 

[eViL]

Will he be a massive loss? He ain't no King.

 

[slartibartfast]

I'd like to hear Levy backing Poch as it's possible some players may be thinking if we keep this up he'll be gone soon given all recent bad press.
They need to know he's here to stay so shape up or ship out.
Couldn't hurt to steady the ship a bit even if all players are on board.

 

[bigspurs]

Will he be a massive loss? He ain't no King.

I think he's lethargy and general disinterest, that started last season has moved it's way through the team faster than turbo syphilis in a Bankok whore house. His miserable performances and attitude on the pitch are disgraceful. He can fuck right off and take half of the useless wankers with him as far as I'm concerned.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I'd like to hear Levy backing Poch as it's possible some players may be thinking if we keep this up he'll be gone soon given all recent bad press.
They need to know he's here to stay so shape up or ship out.
Couldn't hurt to steady the ship a bit even if all players are on board.

Is he here to stay?
Can't see him lasting two full seasons.

 

[parklane1]

Will he be a massive loss? He ain't no King.

You are right he is no King, but he is the best CB at the club and yes he would be a loss.

 

[ClintEastwould]

You are right he is no King, but he is the best CB at the club and yes he would be a loss.

Exactly. Him leaving would mean we are left with kaboul chirches and Fazio. That is frightening.

 

[slartibartfast]

Is he here to stay?
Can't see him lasting two full seasons.

No telling. Things can turn around very quickly as Newcastle have shown.
In the past we've come good on a few occasions because those playing poorly get an injury forcing the change more than the manager making a genius (f in obvious to everyone else) tactical decision.
Trouble being we aren't getting any injuries and the whole team look shit lol.

 

[Spur4life]

There was a man at White hart lane on Sunday call Klinsmaan Who I would have love too have at the hot seat. But let's all back poch too the max at home. Give him a couple of transfer windows let him build his team. I can remember how crap we were in the 90s. I will be happy too see this season gone and give this man time.

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

I'd like to hear Levy backing Poch as it's possible some players may be thinking if we keep this up he'll be gone soon given all recent bad press.
They need to know he's here to stay so shape up or ship out.
Couldn't hurt to steady the ship a bit even if all players are on board.

I know what you're saying, but a vote of confidence from the chairman usually precedes a manager's sacking. Levy's silence is correct here. Behind closed doors is another matter -- he might demonstrate some solidarity.

 

[Kiedis]

I could understand it if he wanted to go. He's no King, but defenders that are worse than him are banking 100000 quid a week at other clubs.

 

[Redfap]

Most of the supporter base are not questioning Poch or his appointment, we are questioning the commitment, passion and effort shown by the playing group. It is disappointing. I'm not too bothered by not finishing 4th, or even finishing mid table, we are clearly at a stage of rebuilding etc, but what I (and I'm sure most other Spurs supporters) wont stand for is players who are not prepared to put in 100%. The biggest issue on the weekend wasn't a 4-2-3-1 formation or any crap like that, we lost because Stoke simply tried harder than us, they went in harder for the 50/50 balls and were prepared to put the mental application in and concentrate more.

If the players want to support the Manager, how about coming out and saying 'We didn't try hard enough, it was a gutless performance and we will promise our loyal fan base that from this point on, win, lose or draw you can be content knowing that we have given our absolute best.

Our most effective players this year have been Mason and Kane, why? Simple, because they are players who are eager to play, know their career is at a stage where they cant be complacent, they are excited to play, want to settle themselves at the club so they TRY THEIR BEST.

Not that bloody hard

Maybe the players just need Poch to come in and right proper peel the paint of the wall and make a stand, drop the players that aren't with him, even it means losing a few games, pick the ones that are prepared to put in 100% on match day. We are all sick of the obvious lack of effort.

If we aren't prepared to roll up our sleeves and put in a shift the club wont be turned around it will continue to stagnate and be inconsistent with no real purpose. Change for the sake of change doesn't work, there has to be progression and development.


End Rant

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Most of the supporter base are not questioning Poch or his appointment, we are questioning the commitment, passion and effort shown by the playing group. It is disappointing. I'm not too bothered by not finishing 4th, or even finishing mid table, we are clearly at a stage of rebuilding etc, but what I (and I'm sure most other Spurs supporters) wont stand for is players who are not prepared to put in 100%. The biggest issue on the weekend wasn't a 4-2-3-1 formation or any crap like that, we lost because Stoke simply tried harder than us, they went in harder for the 50/50 balls and were prepared to put the mental application in and concentrate more.

If the players want to support the Manager, how about coming out and saying 'We didn't try hard enough, it was a gutless performance and we will promise our loyal fan base that from this point on, win, lose or draw you can be content knowing that we have given our absolute best.

Our most effective players this year have been Mason and Kane, why? Simple, because they are players who are eager to play, know their career is at a stage where they cant be complacent, they are excited to play, want to settle themselves at the club so they TRY THEIR BEST.

Not that bloody hard

Maybe the players just need Poch to come in and right proper peel the paint of the wall and make a stand, drop the players that aren't with him, even it means losing a few games, pick the ones that are prepared to put in 100% on match day. We are all sick of the obvious lack of effort.

If we aren't prepared to roll up pour sleeves and put in a shift the club wont be turned around it will continue to stagnate and be inconsistent with no real purpose. Change for the sake of change doesn't work, there has to be progression and development.


End Rant

I said the exact same thing to an Arsenal supporting friend yesterday. I don't think most fans believe that Kane or Mason are world beaters but most want them to play as you can see that put in 100% effort. Unfortunately we don't have too many outfield players like this. Maybe Walker and Kaboul are others and to a lesser extent Lamela. But we have too many players that coast through games. I don't even care if we lose but I want to see our players putting in maximum effort until they're physically incapable. I make more effort to recover the ball when playing Sunday league than some of our players. And they're supposed to be professional athletes at their physical peak. Only a few players in this world can get away with being lazy and none of them play for us

 

[parj]

No telling. Things can turn around very quickly as Newcastle have shown.
In the past we've come good on a few occasions because those playing poorly get an injury forcing the change more than the manager making a genius (f in obvious to everyone else) tactical decision.
Trouble being we aren't getting any injuries and the whole team look shit lol.

very true...Bale was on his way to Nottingham Forest under Redknapp until injuries and BAE going to ANC forced Redknapp to play him.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Backing his manager? He is not signing a new contract, though....

 

[fedupyid]

Poch is obsessed with a high line, we do not have the players who can play a high line. This is going to be his downfall in the long run.

 

[wakefieldyid]

we do not have the players who can play a high line. This is going to be his downfall in the long run.

As I read the situation, this is probably the heart of the problem. Poch (and Levy) wants to get Spurs playing in a more tactically sophisticated way, but the existing squad contains players who are either
i. too comfortable with the previous style, or
ii. too up their own a**es to acknowledge their defensive responsibilities, when we lose possession.
I notice that Matt Law in today's Telegraph claims that "several players" aren't happy, with the implication that Pochetino is facing serious resistance to his ideas from a hard core of disaffected players.
Levy and Baldini's job now is to get these players out of WHL pdq and make it clear who's runing the show.

 

[yido_number1]

I am all for a manager being driven by stats and the like but at the end of the day points make prizes. Long road ahead and not one for the faint hearted.

With regards to Verts i cannot see him staying if we have no European football next season.

It doesn't say it is a stats driven approach any where, it says he studies the opponent to see where they are most likely to try and hurt us. Studying your opponent and being prepared for what is coming is the minimum you should do.

 

[t-baggins]

I harbour no ill feeling for our poor start to Pochettino. Simply put the squad we have put together is poor. We have a dreadful defence (goalkeeper aside) and if you can't keep clean sheets, and force the opposition into taking risks and pushing players forward you are going to struggle. I have said too often that our fullbacks are not nearly good enough, and the first two goals were our fullbacks getting caught out. Naughton shouldn't have tried to nip in and win it, as that left Kaboul and Fazio exposed and Stoke punished us... And Rose showed why he cannot be relied upon at this level yet as a fullback by getting very poorly caught out for the second.

I don't think Walker is the answer but he's a marked improvement on Naughton, shame we didm't properly address the LB problem, as if Davies can't start over Rose it says a lot.

Can't believe we let Sandro leave and kept Capoue... Mockery