Vincent Janssen

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

As is stated before, there are rumours that W.B.A. want him in a double deal with Wimmer. Should this not happen then we know that Poch still sees potential in the guy and I am more than willing to abide by his decision....

You mean the shit story in the shit rag the Sun? Really?

£30m for Wimmer and Janssen and you think it's a genuine story?

I watched Janssen at half time training and knocking the ball about, imho opinion he's a good touch and can shoot with both feet. Unfortunately, he is trying too hard and trying to prove he's good (maybe to himself as much as anyone), if he just relaxed and believed in himself (like Kane does) then fwiw I believe there's a player there.

I get why some believe we should sell, his goal to game ratio was poor and he showed a lack of pace and at times poor close control but his goal to minutes ratio actually wasn't terrible and his hold up play was actually good at times.

I personally think Pochettino has seen enough in training to keep him, otherwise, he'd already be gone and we'd be looking for a new number 9 but all the ITK has stated we're not

 

[Krule]

I personally think Pochettino has seen enough in training to keep him, otherwise, he'd already be gone and we'd be looking for a new number 9 but all the ITK has stated we're not

I totally appreciate the points you make...if he's still with us when the window shuts then I'll admit to being 'hasty' in my opinion of the lad....how's that ??

But if he does stay another season with no improvement you owe me a pint ....agreed ?

PS
Now that you have 'agreed' to this post it's four pints if he does leave before the current window shuts.....

 

[nailsy]

He's definitely worth keeping for another year. Plenty of players take time to acclimatize to the premier league. Van Persie was a similar age when he first came over to England and he only scored five in 25 league games in his first season.

 

[ebzrascal]

So where's this winner coming from who will be happy to sit on the bench for 38 PL games?

FFS we need options on the bench Kane can't be brilliant for every minute of every game he is not Messi and there are times when he is not effective and we need another option. A top team does not rely on one good striker. This really annoys me about some of our fan base. No other top teams fans complains about bringing in players to challenge their first eleven except Spurs fans. Time to play with the big boys.. no more backups I want to see players to improve the first eleven until we start winning things!

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I personally think Pochettino has seen enough in training to keep him, otherwise, he'd already be gone and we'd be looking for a new number 9 but all the ITK has stated we're not

I totally appreciate the points you make...if he's still with us when the window shuts then I'll admit to being 'hasty' in my opinion of the lad....how's that ??

But if he does stay another season with no improvement you owe me a pint ....agreed ?

PS
Now that you have 'agreed' to this post it's four pints if he does leave before the current window shuts.....

Feels like someone's being groomed

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

I trust poch 100% but personally I have been disappointed with him.

We need someone who can play up top and across the front 3 like Son, Martial ect.

Janssen is slow as hell, hasn't got the intelligence to make space for himself, can't beat a man with skill or pace.

The only thing he execls in is backing into his defender but very rarely can he turn and get a shot off.

Very predictable and easy to defend against.

He would score a bucket load in the Championship where the defenders are not quite as sharp

 

[yido16]

what frustrates me with him, seems to be concentrating more on backing into the defender than going for the ball, reminds me slightly of mido

 

[Sweech]

The point I was making is that you could only give one example...it was not a criticism of your posting but of the fact only one scenario could be mentioned. My sincerest apologies if it appeared as a personal jibe...not my intention.

You asked for one game. Someone mentioned it and then you jumped all over it.

Either make your point succinctly or you just look like a dick.

 

[SlunkSoma]

Him going suggests an influx of better attacking options

 

[Krule]

You asked for one game. Someone mentioned it and then you jumped all over it.

Either make your point succinctly or you just look like a dick.

Think it was someone called worcestersauce who asked for one game not me if you look back (succinctly).....only one dick I can see and it isn't me.

 

[Sweech]

Think it was someone called worcestersauce who asked for one game not me if you look back (succinctly).....only one dick I can see and it isn't me.

My bad.

If you're trying to call me a dick you could just say it. Wouldn't be wrong.

 

[Krule]

My bad.

If you're trying to call me a dick you could just say it. Wouldn't be wrong.

Wouldn't do that my friend...let's just forget it... life's too short ...

 

[Clark28]

Look at the average age of the squad...they didn't take time to "settle"..they took time to develop...now we have reached the next stage where we integrate developed players with established ones and have a mixture of youth and experience that will win us the Premiership and truly compete in the CPL. We cannot 'stand still' or give someone 'one more season'

Janssen is younger than the average age of the squad, only turned 23 2 months ago. So he is still developing, as are most of our team.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Half our squad took time to settle so I don't buy the 'hit the ground running' rubbish.

Look at the average age of the squad...they didn't take time to "settle"..they took time to develop...now we have reached the next stage where we integrate developed players with established ones and have a mixture of youth and experience that will win us the Premiership and truly compete in the CPL. We cannot 'stand still' or give someone 'one more season'...do that and it's a recipe for disaster. Janssen was brought in as a backup for Harry Kane...sadly...for whatever reasons he hasn't filled the role.
There are currently rumours that W.B.A. want to sign him...if that does happen then that surely speaks volumes for Poch's opinion of the situation ???.

Janssen is still developing. There is no cookie cutter, one size fit all trajectory for all players, but a different trajectory for every player. And Janssen is within his development trajectory still.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Plays with so much more confidence for Holland. Whenever I see him pull on a Spurs shirt now he looks so scared to make a mistake that he's not letting things happen naturally.

How different his Spurs career could have turned out if he scored that chance at goodison or the one on one against palace the week after

 

[double0]

Pace is key in today's football but its not end game. Football intelligence instinct technique mentality are also fantastic qualities. Janssen has alot of the above ingredients i believe we can get him to show his worth with more game time.

I like pace within my teams and tbh we could do with an attacking player with devastating pace with/and game intelligence N'Koudou springs to mind as a wide player supporting When fit I'd like Poch to use him a bit more

 

[dagraham]

I think from a fans perspective he probably deserves another season to show what he can do.

The problem though is the manager clearly doesn't trust him. He couldn't even get a start against Wycombe for Christ sake. He's not trusted to play in Kane's absence, not trusted to give Kane a rest, not trusted even to come off the bench and play with Kane. All he gets are a few token minutes at the end of the game.

With that in mind, surely if there is an opportunity to sign another forward (whom Poch does trust to do those things) then we should take it and offload him.

 

[goughie1966]

FFS we need options on the bench Kane can't be brilliant for every minute of every game he is not Messi and there are times when he is not effective and we need another option. A top team does not rely on one good striker. This really annoys me about some of our fan base. No other top teams fans complains about bringing in players to challenge their first eleven except Spurs fans. Time to play with the big boys.. no more backups I want to see players to improve the first eleven until we start winning things!

OK..... name them! Name a quality striker that we can pay to sit on the bench who will provide goals when Harry is not playing. And all you Janssen haters can never provide an alternative that we can afford.

This really annoys me about some of our fan base. Thinking we can pay £100k a week for a top player to sit on the bench. We're not even paying our own players that. We can't. The big teams can. These better players are happy to go to Chelsea and City and take £200k a week to sit on the bench. We're in a totally different league here and Janssen is the best we're going to get.

If you think we can be paying for a new stadium and 'playing with the big boys' you're in for a lot of disappointment.

 

[SpursDave88]

OK..... name them! Name a quality striker that we can pay to sit on the bench who will provide goals when Harry is not playing. And all you Janssen haters can never provide an alternative that we can afford.

This really annoys me about some of our fan base. Thinking we can pay £100k a week for a top player to sit on the bench. We're not even paying our own players that. We can't. The big teams can. These better players are happy to go to Chelsea and City and take £200k a week to sit on the bench. We're in a totally different league here and Janssen is the best we're going to get.

If you think we can be paying for a new stadium and 'playing with the big boys' you're in for a lot of disappointment.

Olivier Giroud and Theo Walcott are both significantly superior players to Janssen. Neither start for Arsenal ever. Why can't you see that Janssen is simply not of the required quality to even be a squad player in a team that has aspirations of regular Champions League football and challenging for titles.

Teams like Stoke, Swansea, Crystal Palace and West Ham have better centre forwards than him in their squads...

 

[Ben1]

Olivier Giroud and Theo Walcott are both significantly superior players to Janssen. Neither start for Arsenal ever. Why can't you see that Janssen is simply not of the required quality to even be a squad player in a team that has aspirations of regular Champions League football and challenging for titles.

Teams like Stoke, Swansea, Crystal Palace and West Ham have better centre forwards than him in their squads...

You've made the slight mistake of looking at the situation now. Olivier Giroud did NOT join Arsenal as a back up striker, he became one..he would not have signed for them now, hence him wanting to leave early in summer when lacazette signed. However, there are other examples at the real rich clubs like City and Utd.
Maybe a Utd style system where martial and rashford are back up is what we have in mind with son and another WF.