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Lappi

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After a few years of relative success and measured transfer windows, I for one welcome the comforting return of internal chaos and us making fools out of ourselves to the rest of the league.

This isn't some sort of snide and sarcy support of harry. I genuinely enjoy it. It reminds me of my youth.

Jose dominguez? I'm sure I saw he was managing somewhere
 

Jody

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Sep 11, 2004
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After a few years of relative success and measured transfer windows, I for one welcome the comforting return of internal chaos and us making fools out of ourselves to the rest of the league.

This isn't some sort of snide and sarcy support of harry. I genuinely enjoy it. It reminds me of my youth.

Jose dominguez? I'm sure I saw he was managing somewhere

Jason Dozzel - tottenham's saviour? That actually was a headline once!
 

nidge

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A fantastic idea. Tauricco's knocking around as well i think. I'm sure we can also find a role somewhere for El Tel. DoF?

Tauricco is at Brighton with Gus if I remember correctly.
 

Chapel Hill Hotspur

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Hey! We won the league 50+ years ago. We're a big club.

Our average finishing position of 10th in the PL before Harry had the rest of the league green with envy.
 

StartingPrice

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I don't believe the club is going to collapse because of this change of manager, indeed I beleive we are in rude good health - and the next appointment may even build on Mr Redknapp's achievements.
Get over it.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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I don't believe the club is going to collapse because of this change of manager, indeed I beleive we are in rude good health - and the next appointment may even build on Mr Redknapp's achievements.
Get over it.

Agree completely. Tottenham will continue to grow. I don't have time to worry about Tottenham things, just going to enjoy them.
 

roosh

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Sep 21, 2006
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I don't believe the club is going to collapse because of this change of manager, indeed I beleive we are in rude good health - and the next appointment may even build on Mr Redknapp's achievements.
Get over it.
There is also the distinct possibility that they won't
 

dk-yid

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I don't believe the club is going to collapse because of this change of manager, indeed I beleive we are in rude good health - and the next appointment may even build on Mr Redknapp's achievements.
Get over it.

I agree with this. We are in good health and have the potential to push on even further on and off the field.
On the field I did not have faith that HR could take us further and I suspect the Levy and the board felt the same way.

I think the next appointment is pivotal in the future of this club. If we get it wrong it won't be a disaster, but more a case of treading water. If we get it right however, we could see a major step forward in the coming years.

COYS!
 

hellava_tough

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Such is the financial structure of football nowadays and the fact that it's slowly choking any competitiveness out of the game, I very much doubt we'll ever be mid-table again for a prolonged period of time

And our new stadium will reinforce this


Okay, never say never as anything could happen, but you have to look at the amount we can spend on wages and transfers compared to the rest of the EPL

I mean, blimey, we've just given a manager 3 million quid to fuck off and I'm sure we'll be willing to spend another 4 or 5 million in compo to get the right manager in. 8 million pounds is actually a large chunk of the wage or transfer bill for quite a few clubs in the Premier League, yet we have the financial power to slap it down on the table, no questions asked

We can't compete financially at the very top, but compared to everyone else we'll be fine
 

StartingPrice

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There is also the distinct possibility that they won't

A possibility, yes, a distinct possibility, no, not really. We have an exciting and improving squad, our new training facilty (state-of-the-art, no less) comes on line this Summer, work is underway on the new stadium, massive, and continuing, work on the youth set-up, initiatives such as the Strategic Club Partnerships undertaken to, amongst other things, help in the identification of the best young global talent. One of the few teams with truly healthy financial well-being. It is not as though Mr Redknapp took a club that finished fifteenth for the last six trillion years, who played in a corrugated shed (sic.), and only had three fit journeymen players and got them playing so far above themselves that the rainbows of the World sued him for defamation of character, is it?

I was responding to a specific mood (and post), I neever said I guarantee that everything will be perfect. Levy may appoint a complete fecktard again...I don't know, but then, neither do you and neither does the OP. The OP did make it sound as though everything is, inherently, predetermined to go to sheeeee-ite. I just said that isn't so - I didn't say if was somehow, inhernelty, predetermined to smell of the sweetest of sweet red rsoes, did I? Now, that would have warranted you response. But I do know that all of the positive things I have listed, above, about our club are still there today, and that is enough for me to 100% accurately make the response I did = it is not all doom-and-gloom, we do have much to be positive about, and the next appointment might actually take us on (which is not absolutely certain, but is sure as hell more accurrate than deciding before an appointment has even been made that it will be a disaster).
 

Nocando

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A possibility, yes, a distinct possibility, no, not really. We have an exciting and improving squad, our new training facilty (state-of-the-art, no less) comes on line this Summer, work is underway on the new stadium, massive, and continuing, work on the youth set-up, initiatives such as the Strategic Club Partnerships undertaken to, amongst other things, help in the identification of the best young global talent. One of the few teams with truly healthy financial well-being. It is not as though Mr Redknapp took a club that finished fifteenth for the last six trillion years, who played in a corrugated shed (sic.), and only had three fit journeymen players and got them playing so far above themselves that the rainbows of the World sued him for defamation of character, is it?

I was responding to a specific mood (and post), I neever said I guarantee that everything will be perfect. Levy may appoint a complete fecktard again...I don't know, but then, neither do you and neither does the OP. The OP did make it sound as though everything is, inherently, predetermined to go to sheeeee-ite. I just said that isn't so - I didn't say if was somehow, inhernelty, predetermined to smell of the sweetest of sweet red rsoes, did I? Now, that would have warranted you response. But I do know that all of the positive things I have listed, above, about our club are still there today, and that is enough for me to 100% accurately make the response I did = it is not all doom-and-gloom, we do have much to be positive about, and the next appointment might actually take us on (which is not absolutely certain, but is sure as hell more accurrate than deciding before an appointment has even been made that it will be a disaster).

So can you seriously see us overtaking Chelsea, Man U & City? Because I want some of your optimism! As I said in another thread the best I can see for a new manager is to replicate what Harry achieved. I think it will take more than a great manager (which most linked are not) than to improve on what Harry achieved. Like an owner who has 20 billion in the bank and an open cheque book.
 

StartingPrice

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So can you seriously see us overtaking Chelsea, Man U & City? Because I want some of your optimism! As I said in another thread the best I can see for a new manager is to replicate what Harry achieved. I think it will take more than a great manager (which most linked are not) than to improve on what Harry achieved. Like an owner who has 20 billion in the bank and an open cheque book.

Strangely, I can't see anything in my post that even mentions where we could be relative to other teams. I thnik you have imagined that.

But, just for the record, we don't need to overtake chelsea, we finihsed above them ;) They have bought some exciting young players, and appointed di Matteo. Will Hazard work out? Well, er, maybe not. He such a big thing about not liking the way Lukaku had been treated by Chelsea, that it was truly ironic that he went there after whoring himself, in a blatant for the money move. Relevance, he wants to play, and play regularly - if he doesn't adjust, immediately, to the EPL, how will he react of he is dropped? And di Matteo - were you impressed by him? Even with the traditional honeymoon period, Chelsea were hardly inspiring under him in the league, and his CL triumph as based on the most improbable run of events imaginable. This season, and the next, they will be losting the core of their successful squad. And they are not even the kids with the biggest stick in the playground, anymore. On top of that, their plans for stadium development have been rebuffed, again. It all smacks of the very definition of transition. If, and of course, it is a big if, we get our next appointment correct, and keep all, or most, of our top players, I really don't think it is beyond the bounds of possibility.

Can we overtake Citeh? Probably not. They are on the crest of a wave ATM, and they are the kid with the biggest stick in the playground.

Can we overtake United? Well, probably not. But you do have to realize that sooner or later Beetroot Head is gonna call it a day. They are no longer even the second most powerful spenders in the league. Playing staff-wise, they are already in a bit of a transitional period - I mean, look, they had to call Scholes out of retirement part way through last season, Giggs will be off too, they haven't successfully replaced Neville at FB, and Ferdinand will be next, along with Vidic (if the rumours linking him to a move to the Continent are true). And lets not forget, de Gea, for all the multi-millions they spent on him, was hardly a rip-roaring success at dealing with the alternative rigours of the English game, was he? You are just assuming that the new look United, maybe under Beetroot Head, maybe not (and then what?), will automatically be better. They could, equally, be heading for a period of transition themselves.

And that is just three clubs, you have mentioned - we only need to finish 4th to qualify for the CL (normally :mad:).

Is there a better manager available that Mr Redknapp? Well, here we have just gone full-circle, because I never said there was, jsut that I didn't think the OP knew definitively that there wasn't. In anyway, you are not getting the jist of the argument: there are many developments underway, as we speak, or coming to fruition, that makes this a club on the up regardless of the manager, and part of Mr Redknapp's success was related to the fact that he pulled up to work at a club that is on the up, and did have the foundations of a very good squad. I think we should wait and see before gnawing our own privvies off, don't you?
 

Nocando

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Strangely, I can't see anything in my post that even mentions where we could be relative to other teams. I thnik you have imagined that.

Don't look too hard because you're quite right, you didn't mention this. However I wanted to suggest that those suggesting bettering what Redknapp achieved, may not be an easy task considering the difference between us and the wealth of Chelsea, utd & City. I see this as the biggest factoring in determinng success, so much so that even with a great manager this may not be possible.

But, just for the record, we don't need to overtake chelsea, we finihsed above them ;)

I wasn't referring soley about league positions, although this is the main barometer. I also wasn't referring just to the season gone, I was referring to the relative positions of these clubs. Like it or not Chelsea are a massive club in terms of wealth and whether they are winning the CL, FA Cup or doing well in the league they are still miles ahead of us. We've just about kept hold of their coattails and managed to surpass them this season in the league, yet they won the CL and we still finished some way behind those 2 teams competing for the title.

And that is just three clubs, you have mentioned - we only need to finish 4th to qualify for the CL (normally :mad:).

Yes but that, would only be replicating what Harry achieved. To better that means what exactly? Getting to the semi of the CL, or finishing 2nd in the league? Both highly unlikely considering the points I mentioned above.

I think we should wait and see before gnawing our own privvies off, don't you?

I'm not fussed. I love the club and loved the memories Harry gave me so no gnawing here. I don't live or support the club to see us win titles, I appreciate that this is do much harder these days and if by some small mercy we do that, then I'd be over the moon. I think its this expectation or assumption that the great Tottenham deserve to be winning titles, is the issue here.
 
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