West Ham Olympic Stadium

[Real_madyidd]

New fans will coem. The stadium is easy to get to from the Square mile and there will be corporates queing up to get tickets, they wont be real fans, but they will bring in the cash.

 

[worcestersauce]

Love all the variety of views although they are not mutually exclusive, people can say they never wanted to move to the Olympic stadium and don't care about West Ham but that won't stop West Ham creating a super club in East London as they will undoubtedly become, maybe they will change their name, more likely Olympic with whatever they want to put in front, maybe they won't but that's a possibility.
I am still amazed that people still think they won't tear down the stadium and build a new purpose built football stadium within the next twenty years, of course they will, this is the biggest thing to happen to West Ham in their history make no mistake and they have a hell of a future ahead of them, we will still be in N17 and they will have their iconic island in the Olympic park with all the advantages that will bring, whether that will make us a historical footnote, as some people think, or not remains to be seen.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

No they won't, they'd need a pair of binoculars to see the match, and that's just the ones sitting in the front row.

Retractable seating and all covered. Read the article please.

Shooting from the hip.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Heads in sand will hurt Tottenham Hotspur.

 

[SugarRay]

In reality neither opinion is certain.

I tend to look at Arsenal when people say West Ham are a sure fire cert to become a super club ( Barca? ) because of their new stadium. The Emirates is a shiny, purpose built football arena, good access to the city etc. They are in an amazing position financially and their gate receipts are colossal. They have the added bonus of a much bigger fanbase than West Ham, a far richer history and well, generally they are a much, much bigger club. They have been in their new gaff a fair amount of time now too.

Now, with all these natural advantages over West Ham for a start, and not taking in to account the regulations West Ham will have to abide by, they still can't compete with the one genuine super club in English football these days and the two sugar daddy multi billionaire ( FFP means any new versions of Roman or Mansour won't work ) owned cubs either.

To become this apparent super cub you need Campions League year in, year out and they are at least a decade away from even entertaining a challenge to a top 4 slot, and that's assuming we don't keep progressing, Everton and Newcastle stand still etc etc.
In that mean time the regular champions league clubs will continue to get richer and build themselves. City are looking at 60k and it will happen at some stage. Roman wants his new stadium and what he wants he gets. We are obviously in the process of sorting our new gaff out. Liverpool and Newcastle also want to increase their capacity.

I can see how some would think it could improve their standing and it just well might, but on the flip side it may be a bad move. Who knows how the conversion will look and feel. It's a huge structure, easily fitting in 80k spectators and a running track and all that is in the middle. Bridging the huge gap between the first seat and pitch side with seats could make the place quite frankly, ridiculous! I actually look forward to seeing how they manage to do it.

Even if it all goes to plan for them I can't see it pushing them in to the cream of English football. Tourist and glory hunters, some of these new fans people keep saying they will attract, want one thing, and it ain't watching football in an athletics stadium where Mo Farah won gold. No, they want success and lots of it. See Arsenals recent trophy laden spell since they moved to their shiny new place...the glory hunters they picked up in the late 90s early 00s are starting to fall away.

As for global and euro super leagues...won't ever happen. If it does, who the eff would care about the sport anyway!!?

 

[tototoner]

Shit club, shit fans.

and soon a shit stadium

The running track has to stay for at least 125 years

Good luck trying to drum up an atmosphere

 

[SugarRay]

and soon a shit stadium

The running track has to stay for at least 125 years

Good luck trying to drum up an atmosphere

It's ok, they can have retractable seating across the track. Because they are increasing the area of seating yet reducing the capacity by a big amount it means each fan will have a seat that covers around 12sq ft. Enough to put your feet up or have a full on lye down...not a bad position to take up considering the football they play!

I look forward to the legacy provided to Lord Coe by 30k spanners Nazi saluting as they sing about Adolf in his Olympic Stadium.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

and soon a shit stadium

The running track has to stay for at least 125 years

Good luck trying to drum up an atmosphere

Bloody ace warm up track for the subs though. haha

 

[Hoopspur]

In reality neither opinion is certain.

I tend to look at Arsenal when people say West Ham are a sure fire cert to become a super club ( Barca? ) because of their new stadium. The Emirates is a shiny, purpose built football arena, good access to the city etc. They are in an amazing position financially and their gate receipts are colossal. They have the added bonus of a much bigger fanbase than West Ham, a far richer history and well, generally they are a much, much bigger club. They have been in their new gaff a fair amount of time now too.

Now, with all these natural advantages over West Ham for a start, and not taking in to account the regulations West Ham will have to abide by, they still can't compete with the one genuine super club in English football these days and the two sugar daddy multi billionaire ( FFP means any new versions of Roman or Mansour won't work ) owned cubs either.

To become this apparent super cub you need Campions League year in, year out and they are at least a decade away from even entertaining a challenge to a top 4 slot, and that's assuming we don't keep progressing, Everton and Newcastle stand still etc etc.
In that mean time the regular champions league clubs will continue to get richer and build themselves. City are looking at 60k and it will happen at some stage. Roman wants his new stadium and what he wants he gets. We are obviously in the process of sorting our new gaff out. Liverpool and Newcastle also want to increase their capacity.

I can see how some would think it could improve their standing and it just well might, but on the flip side it may be a bad move. Who knows how the conversion will look and feel. It's a huge structure, easily fitting in 80k spectators and a running track and all that is in the middle. Bridging the huge gap between the first seat and pitch side with seats could make the place quite frankly, ridiculous! I actually look forward to seeing how they manage to do it.

Even if it all goes to plan for them I can't see it pushing them in to the cream of English football. Tourist and glory hunters, some of these new fans people keep saying they will attract, want one thing, and it ain't watching football in an athletics stadium where Mo Farah won gold. No, they want success and lots of it. See Arsenals recent trophy laden spell since they moved to their shiny new place...the glory hunters they picked up in the late 90s early 00s are starting to fall away.

As for global and euro super leagues...won't ever happen. If it does, who the eff would care about the sport anyway!!?

As I said earlier - all about ambitions, visions and playing the system(s) I guess. We'll see.

The one thing I will say about the gooners is that they had a closed shop. A handy little group of fans and haven't pushed the global theme as much as they've needed to.

 

[sherbornespurs]

RIP Leyton Orient.

 

[Col_M]

Wrong. They are putting retractable seating in at a cost of 140Million. which West Ham are not paying.

So taxpayers giving West Ham a stadium for 99 years, worth half a billion pounds. It's bullshit and it's anti competitive. the EU should step in.

To be fair, they are not giving the stadium away. It is a lease and the Government's job is to get as much money out of it as possible. There will be restrictions on what can and can't take place there but from their pot of view, they have secured an income for a long period and guaranteed the Athletics Legacy that they were charged to do. Just so happens that WHAM offered the best option for them. As long as there are no rules broken I have no problems with it. Why can't Newham Council help them when we are expecting Haringay to do the same thing??

 

[worcestersauce]

and soon a shit stadium

The running track has to stay for at least 125 years

Good luck trying to drum up an atmosphere

You can't believe the track will have to stay for 125 years surely.

The Arsenal example in an earlier post is not a good example, their potential is still huge, bigger than if they'd stayed at Highbury, the fact that they haven't done the necessary to realise that potential doesn't change that and the stadium in the Olympic park which is basically London central for its access routes, it's iconic status and its Kudos for all the business community has even greater potential than the emirates.

Get real people if the Olympics were on Tottenham marshes and we'd had the chance to move into the same thing there we'd have jumped at it and we'd be licking our lips at our future potential even without the great transport links, you can't odds it this is a fantastic day for West Ham even if some of their own cretinous fans don't realise it yet.

 

[spud]

To be fair, they are not giving the stadium away. It is a lease and the Government's job is to get as much money out of it as possible. There will be restrictions on what can and can't take place there but from their pot of view, they have secured an income for a long period and guaranteed the Athletics Legacy that they were charged to do. Just so happens that WHAM offered the best option for them. As long as there are no rules broken I have no problems with it. Why can't Newham Council help them when we are expecting Haringay to do the same thing??

That's fine as far as it goes. But it goes further.

For the Olympic Stadium to be an acceptable Premier League venue, all seats have to be covered. That means a new roof. Wet Spamd either can't, or don't intend, to pay for it. Wet Spam insist that retractable seating is needed - even though it isn't. Boris Johnson and the LLDC (or whatever they're called this week) seem to have accepted that argument and apparently intend to install retractable seating. Wet Spam either can't, or don't intend, to pay for it.

Which begs the question of who is going to pay for over 200 million quids' worth of what are effectively unneccessary modifications to the stadium. If you guessed the taxpayer, you would probably be right. If Wet Spam gets the Olympic Stadium then they should get it 'as is', without another penny of taxpayers' money being spent on it. That won't happen. Johnson needs to save face for the collosal fuck-up that has happened on his watch and he will ensure that public money funds it.

If I still lived in England I would be all over my MP about this. I would be writing to Government ministers and trying to get the Opposition to kick up a stink. I would be all over every journalistic and other media outlet trying to expose the scandalous waste of public money that is surely about to happen.

I strongly urge every one of you UK taxpayers to do the same.

EDIT:
Regarding Newham and Haringey.
1. Haringey Council is not contributing anything to our new stadium. They (and Johnson) are contributing to the redevelopment of the surrounding area.
2. Newham Council committed to spending 40 million directly in support of the new anchor tenant, irrespective of who it will be. They thus avoided the EU legal issues that stopped the old bid process. The catch: they knew it would be Wet Spam. Johnson said as much in his press comments when they announced the scrapping of the old bid process. When saying that the anchor tenant would be a football club he said '...which will probably be West Ham....in fact, it will be West Ham'.

It's a stitch up. And you are going to pay for it.

 

[Spirit58]

Retractable seating and all covered. Read the article please.

Shooting from the hip.

Really ! Now that I'd never have guessed, what with having read the article and RM's post just before mine, , it's still West Ham, Man City didn't exactly prosper from being handed Eastlands (City of Manchester Stadium) on a plate until they got a mega rich sugar daddy and I don't recall too many tax payers up in arms about that one.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

In reality neither opinion is certain.

I tend to look at Arsenal when people say West Ham are a sure fire cert to become a super club ( Barca? ) because of their new stadium. The Emirates is a shiny, purpose built football arena, good access to the city etc. They are in an amazing position financially and their gate receipts are colossal. They have the added bonus of a much bigger fanbase than West Ham, a far richer history and well, generally they are a much, much bigger club. They have been in their new gaff a fair amount of time now too.

Now, with all these natural advantages over West Ham for a start, and not taking in to account the regulations West Ham will have to abide by, they still can't compete with the one genuine super club in English football these days and the two sugar daddy multi billionaire ( FFP means any new versions of Roman or Mansour won't work ) owned cubs either.

To become this apparent super cub you need Campions League year in, year out and they are at least a decade away from even entertaining a challenge to a top 4 slot, and that's assuming we don't keep progressing, Everton and Newcastle stand still etc etc.
In that mean time the regular champions league clubs will continue to get richer and build themselves. City are looking at 60k and it will happen at some stage. Roman wants his new stadium and what he wants he gets. We are obviously in the process of sorting our new gaff out. Liverpool and Newcastle also want to increase their capacity.

I can see how some would think it could improve their standing and it just well might, but on the flip side it may be a bad move. Who knows how the conversion will look and feel. It's a huge structure, easily fitting in 80k spectators and a running track and all that is in the middle. Bridging the huge gap between the first seat and pitch side with seats could make the place quite frankly, ridiculous! I actually look forward to seeing how they manage to do it.

Even if it all goes to plan for them I can't see it pushing them in to the cream of English football. Tourist and glory hunters, some of these new fans people keep saying they will attract, want one thing, and it ain't watching football in an athletics stadium where Mo Farah won gold. No, they want success and lots of it. See Arsenals recent trophy laden spell since they moved to their shiny new place...the glory hunters they picked up in the late 90s early 00s are starting to fall away.

As for global and euro super leagues...won't ever happen. If it does, who the eff would care about the sport anyway!!?

An opinion nothing more.

 

[Flashspur]

Anyone worried that they could leapfrog us with the increased revenue? Why didn't Levy go in for the OS again?

 

[SugarRay]

An opinion nothing more.

As opposed to your facts?

Of course it's just an opinion, as are your posts in here. 99% of what gets posted in this whole place is opinion!

My opinion is West Ham won't become Barcelona because of this move. They won't even become Newcastle United.
Super duper hydro mega world leagues seem ridiculously far fetched to me, as does renaming them London Olympic Galaxy or whatever, but I can sort of see why some would think it is possible. I just don't agree with it.

Cue replies of 'head in the sand', 'in denial' etc! Neither are true. I can clearly see both sides to the discussion.

 

[Misfit]

Because he didn't want a running track ruining the entire stadium for use as a football stadium. I would hope that the running track is, after all our legal shenanigans, there for keeps now.

Besides, how much more revenue will they get from it? 10K more bums in seats for sure. Hardly massive corporate facilities though.

Besides which, nevermind the Spam catching up with us, we've massively closed the gap to an already richer club in assnal. We'll survive.

 

[SugarRay]

Really ! Now that I'd never have guessed, what with having read the article and RM's post just before mine, , it's still West Ham, Man City didn't exactly prosper from being handed Eastlands (City of Manchester Stadium) on a plate until they got a mega rich sugar daddy and I don't recall too many tax payers up in arms about that one.

It can be argued that them having the stadium made them more attractive to the sugar daddy. Thing is, the sugar daddy boat has well and truly sailed so West Ham can't take advantage in such a manner and for them to be consistently succesful they would need a sugar daddy owner willing to spunk a billion on them.

I know spanners who are refusing to go to the new stadium. Watch how the rest react to the conversion and suggestions such as name changing...they have far from 100% backing for this move from the support. From what I have read and heard from their fans, its more like 60/70% tops.

 

[Flashspur]

Sorry Mods posted in the wrong forum......my bad