West Ham vs Millwall

[talkshowhost86]

Why can't we just write threatening letters to each 'firm' (from every club) saying something along the lines of "we think you are pussees (have to get the spelling wrong to fit in) and we want a fite wiv you on Wednesday because you don't sport the same farking team as us you mugz. Meet at the New Den at 8pm. Bring your own burberry."

Then, because they are morons, all of the firms will descend on the New Den at which point we detonate a series of bombs thus blowing them all to smithereens (and also eliminating the problem of New Cross' existence).

It would be a serious step forward in our species' evolution if we could eradicate them from the face of the earth and I include the Spurs 'fans' who are involved in the same thing.

The people who go to football to fight are wankers. It's as simple as that.

 

[riggi]

:lol: na it was a nickname at school, second names Rigg. Na he was a spammer, he did say there isnt loads of trouble, just our mob seemed to be involved when there was.

 

[klinnical]

Sums it up nicely I think

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...l-fans-from--killing-each-other-200908262009/

 

[Rocksuperstar]

:lol: na it was a nickname at school, second names Rigg. Na he was a spammer, he did say there isnt loads of trouble, just our mob seemed to be involved when there was.

I'd have probably suspected Leeds fans above us, but i figure he'll be talking London teams, huh?

I expect the reason a lot of the firms don't get the violence related back to the football club is because, whilst they still label themselves alongside a specific club, the violence is much more "private" now, if you get what i mean?

A fight near a stadium, or in a stadium, is what i consider "football violence". It's nearly always emotive and is based on cajoling, sledging and tempers being lost.

Hooligans and members of the firms are organised and arrange encounters in secluded places, often a fair way away from the ground itself, hence the clubs are now able to distance themselves from the situation.

 

[riggi]

I'd have probably suspected Leeds fans above us, but i figure he'll be talking London teams, huh?

I expect the reason a lot of the firms don't get the violence related back to the football club is because, whilst they still label themselves alongside a specific club, the violence is much more "private" now, if you get what i mean?

A fight near a stadium, or in a stadium, is what i consider "football violence". It's nearly always emotive and is based on cajoling, sledging and tempers being lost.

Hooligans and members of the firms are organised and arrange encounters in secluded places, often a fair way away from the ground itself, hence the clubs are now able to distance themselves from the situation.

Spot on. Personally i dont have a problem with it, if two sets of blokes want to kick the shit out of eachother then fine but just dont get people involved who dont want to be.

 

[riggi]

Sums it up nicely I think

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...l-fans-from--killing-each-other-200908262009/

:rofl:

 

[talkshowhost86]

I'd have probably suspected Leeds fans above us, but i figure he'll be talking London teams, huh?

I expect the reason a lot of the firms don't get the violence related back to the football club is because, whilst they still label themselves alongside a specific club, the violence is much more "private" now, if you get what i mean?

A fight near a stadium, or in a stadium, is what i consider "football violence". It's nearly always emotive and is based on cajoling, sledging and tempers being lost.

Hooligans and members of the firms are organised and arrange encounters in secluded places, often a fair way away from the ground itself, hence the clubs are now able to distance themselves from the situation.

I think that's true. We always hear about the 'tear ups' (for tear up please read 'collection of thuggish twats meeting in a park to have a bit of a fight') after matches (often in Finsbury Park allegedly) and to be honest if the idiots want to go and fight before or after a game somewhere that's away from my football club then fine.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Sums it up nicely I think

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...l-fans-from--killing-each-other-200908262009/

hah! that's very good :up:

 

[markiespurs]

I can understand wanting to run on the pitch (heat of the moment) but why risk match bans for it! Such a waste. I walking back from a night out the other day and got talking to this bloke, turns out he was a copper in London, we started talking about football violance etc and he said that in the last 10 years Tottenham have been the worst for it.

Did he mention if it was at home or away?

If at home, then im a bit surprised at this, i've been a season ticket holder for around 5 years and have'nt seen any trouble in the Spurs sections of the ground. Unless of course there's been trouble outside the ground a while after the match.

I've seen a few people kicked out of the away supporters section, but no major incidents.

 

[markiespurs]

Sums it up nicely I think

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...l-fans-from--killing-each-other-200908262009/

Great stuff :rofl::rofl:

 

[riggi]

Did he mention if it was at home or away?

If at home, then im a bit surprised at this, i've been a season ticket holder for around 5 years and have'nt seen any trouble in the Spurs sections of the ground

I've seen a few people kicked out of the away supporters section, but no major incidents.

Na he diddnt mention but i suspect like Talkshowhost86 and Rocksuperstar said, it was all away from the ground.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

The clubs shouldn't be fined, it's not their fault.

If anything, the clubs should take the named offenders to court and claim huge damages, as well as the FA doing the same. Sting 'em where it hurts - in their pockets - as well as putting them behind bars.

 

[LSUY]

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[MattyP]

Quite why anyone should complain about West Ham & Millwall fans fighting between themselves is beyond me.

The more of them locked up = the less of them on the street = a better place for normal human beings :grin:

The guys who got stabbed I hope make a full recovery, but the handbags outside the ground was a bit pathetic.

As for the pitch invasion, well it was a bit of a joke - a lot of arm waving, but we have that every week at Spurs and make him captain.

Much ado about nothing.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

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Blimey, Pompey & Villa last year earned themselves plenty - but, by no means a forgivable figure, only 40 from Spurs fans, that appears to be only slightly higher than average in the prem :shrug:

As suspected, Leeds, Cardiff & Millwall fans top the stack. If that copper was right, Riggi, if we did have a lot of violence, not much of it was associated with the game else more would've been banned than that.

 

[Bonjour]

Exclusive footage of the fans that were arrested last night and held in prison cell designed especially:

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[Legend10]

And what are the clubs meant to do? :shrug:

They've already banned them from the ground, the Police are involved and the court has told them they aren't allowed to do this or that - the only other option i could see is curfew orders or tagging, specifically for the day of a game. This means that any hooligan who was involved with a premier league club is not allowed to leave their house for a minimum of 38 days in the year. It would also mean liaising with the police, both here and abroad, to stop these people travelling for european ties, all of which would end up being, in some way, in breach of a human rights law i don't doubt.

There really is little more the clubs themselves can do to stop this kind of thing which, thankfully, is rare enough that when it does happen it creates attention like this.

precisely, the clubs are in a near impossible situation.

Both clubs, just like Spurs are based in difficult areas and will inevitably attract some undesireable so called support.

Millwall we know have tried desperately hard over the years to overcome their image and become more of a family orientated club, but in all honesty it's virtually impossible for it to be an unqualified success.

The clubs are in themselves victims as well!

personally I don't want to see either club punished, the severest punishment should be aimed at individuals to save the football public and the clubs from encountering these people on matchdays!

 

[riggi]

Blimey, Pompey & Villa last year earned themselves plenty - but, by no means a forgivable figure, only 40 from Spurs fans, that appears to be only slightly higher than average in the prem :shrug:

As suspected, Leeds, Cardiff & Millwall fans top the stack. If that copper was right, Riggi, if we did have a lot of violence, not much of it was associated with the game else more would've been banned than that.

We had loads in 2001, ye i reakon its where they recognise certain faces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xT_f1pSOY remember watching this on Bravo.

 

[jonnyrotten]

Did he mention if it was at home or away?

If at home, then im a bit surprised at this, i've been a season ticket holder for around 5 years and have'nt seen any trouble in the Spurs sections of the ground. Unless of course there's been trouble outside the ground a while after the match.

I've seen a few people kicked out of the away supporters section, but no major incidents.

Home and away, always away from the grounds, Spurs have been the nawtiest club in the past decade, worse than Chelsea Cardiff, Stoke, Brum, Leeds, Millwall, Wast Ham, Citeh, Man U all the big firms. Heard that first hand from an active Chelsea boy (who isn't going to big us up for no reason). Hence if as Talkshowhost says clubs with hooligan elements get closed door games, points deductions etc, expect us to be one of the worst affected. Be careful what you wish for!

 

[jonnyrotten]

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I have added one to the 2008/09. There were at least three arrests in my incident as we went down the nick together.