What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[Mr Pink]

Will you change your mind if we haven't won anything in, say, 7 or 8 years time? Or even 15 years time? Will you be happy for us to win nothing but compete admirably within a smaller budget for the rest of our lifetime? Genuine questions.

Just to be clear, I would love to win it the way we're doing things at the moment. But I'm intrigued to hear your answers to the question(s) above.

Mate, I'm very confident we'll win things under Pochettino, he's the key. I genuinely don't believe we won't have won things in the time frames you give.

Our transformation and progression under Pochettino, particularly when you consider the disparity in resources to that of our rivals, has been remarkable.

Kane's recent comments sum it up for me, basically saying that he wants Poch to be Tottenham's Ferguson.

So to answer your question mate, it's not a situation I want to even contemplate when we're doing so well, and doing it in the way we're doing it.

We don't get the respect we deserve in the media but when we do win something we'll have every right to highlight the fact we simply havnt bought success, we've earned it, and against the odds.

That's something I'll take great pleasure in.

I sometimes think that's why we don't get enough respect in the media and amongst other pundits, managers etc. They can't bare the fact of us doing better from a disadvantaged position, because what does it actually say about their Clubs? Not a fucking lot in truth.

Imagine us winning the league off the back of two really good seasons as well. It wouldn't be a freak, it's enormous progress and taking on the financial heavyweights and outperforming them playing great football, with a young squad and a core group of English lads.

Fuck sake, the media should be wanking over us. Instead they'll cream themselves if we sell Kane to Madrid.

 

[bomberH]

Mate, I'm very confident we'll win things under Pochettino, he's the key. I genuinely don't believe we won't have won things in the time frames you give.

Our transformation and progression under Pochettino, particularly when you consider the disparity in resources to that of our rivals, has been remarkable.

Kane's recent comments sum it up for me, basically saying that he wants Poch to be Tottenham's Ferguson.

So to answer your question mate, it's not a situation I want to even contemplate when we're doing so well, and doing it in the way we're doing it.

We don't get the respect we deserve in the media but when we do win something we'll have every right to highlight the fact we simply havnt bought success, we've earned it, and against the odds.

That's something I'll take great pleasure in.

I sometimes think that's why we don't get enough respect in the media and amongst other pundits, managers etc. They can't bare the fact of us doing better from a disadvantaged position, because what does it actually say about their Clubs? Not a fucking lot in truth.

Imagine us winning the league off the back of two really good seasons as well. It wouldn't be a freak, it's enormous progress and taking on the financial heavyweights and outperforming them playing great football, with a young squad and a core group of English lads.

Fuck sake, the media should be wanking over us. Instead they'll cream themselves if we sell Kane to Madrid.

I agree with pretty much everything you say. But I still need to hear an answer to what I asked. I hope we win stuff obviously but the question was 'how would you feel about all this if we don't, and continue to lose all our star players to bigger clubs'? I know you can't contemplate that and I hope I'm proven wrong massively, nothing would please me more, but hypothetically, how would you feel in 10 years time if we haven't won anything?

 

[Mr Pink]

I agree with pretty much everything you say. But I still need to hear an answer to what I asked. I hope we win stuff obviously but the question was 'how would you feel about all this if we don't, and continue to lose all our star players to bigger clubs'? I know you can't contemplate that and I hope I'm proven wrong massively, nothing would please me more, but hypothetically, how would you feel in 10 years time if we haven't won anything?

I'd feel pretty low.

But then I'd smash one out and things would be looking up again.

 

[bomberH]

I'd feel pretty low.

But then I'd smash one out and things would be looking up again.

I do that when I feel low or high. Either's good.

But feeling low aside, would you want mass investment like Chelsea and City have had or would you be happy with trying but never winning (if we hadn't won anything in 10 years but kept getting close).

 

[Mr Pink]

I do that when I feel low or high. Either's good.

But feeling low aside, would you want mass investment like Chelsea and City have had or would you be happy with trying but never winning (if we hadn't won anything in 10 years but kept getting close).

I'd rather we just kept trying in the manner we've being doing so.

If that means waiting longer so be it.

Integrity etc, and I'd feel like a complete hypocrite as well. All I've done is slate Chelsea and City for doing it.

So fuck it, I dont want us to go down that route.

 

[Col_M]

So, what are those paupers in Madrid talking about then?

 

[bomberH]

I'd rather we just kept trying in the manner we've being doing so.

If that means waiting longer so be it.

Integrity etc, and I'd feel like a complete hypocrite as well. All I've done is slate Chelsea and City for doing it.

So fuck it, I dont want us to go down that route.

I admire your stance. For me though, 40 odd years of watching us not winning the league, paying thousands and thousands of pounds following them (like we all do) I just want to see us win the league. If that means a rich investor, so be it. It would make all the failures down the years seem worthwhile with just one league win, but we'd build from that and become one of the big big clubs. Stars would want to join us and our unbelievable stadium and training facilities. Wages wouldn't be an issue. I can dream....

I really hope we win it before that happens so I can be more proud of a title win than any City or Chelsea fan can be. But my want for a title outweighs doing it the 'right' way (the 'wrong' way wouldn't be the wrong way anyway seeing as other clubs are doing it like that now anyway).

Anyway, apologies for getting off track. Madrid fans think we're awesome.

 

[Gbspurs]

So, what are those paupers in Madrid talking about then?

Heth heth heth, Boutros Boutros Ghali!

 

[Stevespurs71]

Sminky Minky Pinky

 

[StartingPrice]

I admire your stance. For me though, 40 odd years of watching us not winning the league, paying thousands and thousands of pounds following them (like we all do) I just want to see us win the league. If that means a rich investor, so be it. It would make all the failures down the years seem worthwhile with just one league win, but we'd build from that and become one of the big big clubs. Stars would want to join us and our unbelievable stadium and training facilities. Wages wouldn't be an issue. I can dream....

I really hope we win it before that happens so I can be more proud of a title win than any City or Chelsea fan can be. But my want for a title outweighs doing it the 'right' way (the 'wrong' way wouldn't be the wrong way anyway seeing as other clubs are doing it like that now anyway).

Anyway, apologies for getting off track. Madrid fans think we're awesome.

Bomber, I think there was a thread on this a while ago. Don't know if you feel that recent developments (like us being bloody good) mean it should be reexamined with renewed urgency.

I would be pretty sickened if we didn't ever win anything (but then I'd watch Pinky smashing one out from my concealed voyeur spot - might even film it - and then I'd be fine ). I am a bit of a dreamer, and I kinda think in a just World the footballing authorities would enforce, properly enforce, a situation where all clubs had to operate solely by revenues generated. City and Chelsea would be fooked and we would be in possibly the best position of any club at the top end of English football. In lieu of that happening, maybe we should just legitimize taking the kit gloves off and every club ho'ing itself out to the very richest oligarchs possible and seeing whose oligarch could buy the most.

But really I want it done properly. I find the concept of us selling our best players interesting (even if I don't think Kane, for instance, is in much danger of leaving for the foreseeable). Hell, imagine if we kept Poch but sold, say, Kane, Dele and Eriksen. We could raise about over £400 million just from them three (and that is being conservative). Blimey, look at what Daniel Levy has done with zero net spend. With that amount of moola he would probably take over UEFA, FIFa and the Olympic Committee. He would ban any other club from playing in the BPL or CL for seven or eight seasons. Bobs yer uncle

Anyway, so long as we've got Levy and Magic Mauricio I think we will have success (even if not numerically as much as City while they continue to rig the game).

<EDIT> Just in case anyone misunderstands, I'm not advocating selling Kane, Dele and Eriksen. I desperately want to keep our squad together. Bomber asked the question if lack of success meant we had to sell our star names - just answering that.

 

[Lilbaz]

Want a sugar daddy gazillionaire as much as you want. They have to want us though. Until they do and are ready to put up the cash you might as well wish to become a gazillionaire yourself.

Like it or not you have to play the hand you're dealt. Could be far worse we could have the porn barons as our owners and pulis as our manager.

 

[Shadydan]

We could easily have a Sugar Daddy, no reason why Joe Lewis wouldn't be able to dip into his own pockets and bankroll Spurs, he's worth a little less than Roman after all...but I guess that's no interest to him I'm glad it isn't, he'd most probably would rather Spurs grown organically which we has done so much under Enic's tenure.

 

[Lilbaz]

We could easily have a Sugar Daddy, no reason why Joe Lewis wouldn't be able to dip into his own pockets and bankroll Spurs, he's worth a little less than Roman after all...but I guess that's no interest to him I'm glad it isn't, he'd most probably would rather Spurs grown organically which we has done so much under Enic's tenure.

Do you think that lewis has £1bn sitting in a bank account somewhere? Or do you think his "value" is the companies and properties he owns?
He has dipped into his own pockets. He invested for the shares. Then £50m to help fund the stadium and also tavistok are also one of the major financiers for the new stadium (according to the leaked letter from levy to sadiq khan).

Roman is a different kettle entirely. Not even going to try and list his history or motivations. He spent more in bribes to the russian government than he did on chelsea. The main reason he owns chelsea is because putin wants him to. A lot to do with the world cup.

 

[Yid_Summers]

Can we get back on topic. We’re not owned by a sugar daddy (thank god), so move on.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I do that when I feel low or high. Either's good.

But feeling low aside, would you want mass investment like Chelsea and City have had or would you be happy with trying but never winning (if we hadn't won anything in 10 years but kept getting close).

A ten year wait? Blimey - I'm a bit more frequent than that

 

[spids]

The last two years have shown we don't need a sugar daddy owner to challenge for the title. The new stadium, and regular CL money, should give us the platform we need. Poch is central to everything. Winning the league 'the honest way' would be a million times better than buying the title.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Can we get back on topic. We’re not owned by a sugar daddy (thank god), so move on.

Yes. Some of the grammar in the last few pages has had me choking

 

[Geyzer Soze]

They've got an array of incredible attacking footballers, but it's just the equivalent of the boob job, Botox and Gucci handbags on the trophy wife.

I don’t get your point ...

 

[the yid]

I just hope Madrid look at us arrogantly and think it will be easy and they won't need to turn up to beat us sort of disrespect us! Then and only then can I see us getting something so interesting to see there comments

 

[longtimespur]

Being an old geezer I can remember us winning the league,, cups and european trophies. BE patient and things will happen for you all. Iam certain we will achieve for all you as Bill Nick did for me, Arthur Rowe was just before I started going to the Lane. If I am relly lucky enough I will be around to see it again.
COYS and let us all keep the belief.