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DIEHARD

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Rawk have their very own Cornelius (referring to Cornelius Knob who used to talk shit on SC) and he's a complete prick too...:D

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #2860 on: Yesterday at 05:22:35 PM »

Rose and Walker aren't particularly good. They showed that in the Euros as did the other Spurs players. Can't understand the jizz on here for Spurs. I know the media is powerful but fuck me the hype is insane. What have they or fucking "Poch" ever won? That classic Spursy bottle job on the last day of the season tells you everything you need to know.

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Id love to meet him at his dole queue that ****. Nick his money. Knock him the fuck out. Society should be eradicated of ****s such as Mr Cornelius

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JerryGarcia

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Id love to meet him at his dole queue that ****. Nick his money. Knock him the fuck out. Society should be eradicated of ****s such as Mr Cornelius

Cornelius ****. CC

They'd stop your dole money if you did that, best wait until he's clear of the building!
 

Spinders

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"this is in a league where defending doesn't matter that much"

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? :ROFLMAO:

This is next level dumbo, even for them. If defending didn't matter, how the hell did Leicester win the league last season? The most important part of the season they ground out 1-0 wins time and time again.
 

Sweech

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...attack attack attack!

To be fair they're right in that the standards of defending among the top teams have nosedived over the last 5-10 years, but what they're failing to realise is that's exactly why we're doing so well. Yes we only score one or two a game, but in a league where no-one can defend properly, the team which is yet to concede a goal from open play is unsurpisingly a point off top spot, despite having scored less than anyone else in the top 4.
Weren't we the second best goal scoring unit last season? People massively underrate our attack.

Don't even get me started on the individual talent bullshit Liverpool fans spout either. Their squad has struggled to have a double digit scorer for awhile now and last year they barely crossed the line with Firmino scoring 10 and had no one else, whereas we keep rolling through seasons with multiple. Including Kane who scored over double what their best could.

They just spout loads of absolute nonsense.
 

Roynie

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what is it with Liverpool fans......acknowledging that another club have a good team and are playing well does not diminish the value of your own team and their strengths.

It is actually possible to believe that Liverpool, City and Spurs are all good sides simultaneously and all have a good shot at the title this year.....FFS, when are they going to GROW UP?

Eerrrrrr ......... never ?! :sneaky:
 

Freddy Adu

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I'd say now is the optimal time to place a bet on Spurs to finish 5th or lower. Relatively small squad, more sprints per game than usain bolt, this feels like their annual high tide where everyone marvels at what a businessman Levy is. Now, friends would tell you this means bet the house on Spurs

I mean, this little witty remark makes no sense does it?

If anything, Usain Bolt only makes one sprint - to the finish line.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Nice post from RAWK's Spurs thread. Last paragraph :love:


Quote from: jooneyisdagloomy on Yesterday at 01:31:29 AM
That's definitely a good point, but I think getting a goal or two after pressing for 30 minutes might give them the chance to then rest and press when they have to, which could lead to counters. I do think there are some teams that can cause Man City a few problems. With Spurs, the only issue I see is that they sacrifice top of the line attacking talent for athleticism a bit. Dele Alli, Son and Dembele are all excellent ball players, and Kane is a superb all-round player, but I don't see them having the same kind of ability to change the game in an instant the way Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge or Firmino do for us. At least on a consistent basis. They're incredibly effective though and should blow past most of the league's cannon fodder.

There's probably something to that, but it's also easy to forget that attacking flair only exists within the system it's placed and Klopp allows for much more individual spontaneity than Pochettino. Part of the reason Spurs are so defensively sound is that everyone on the squad ruthlessly works together and stays in their positions consistently - there's not room for much individual flair in that system. Here's a map of the average position for every Spurs player from yesterday's City match - and even against a Guardiola side that loves to pull you around and out of position, you can see just how structured Spurs were and how well they kept shape. It's nearly picture perfect.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtxZ4mCWcAA6koa.jpg

And I think at the heart of that is the fact that while both Klopp and Pochettino have their teams press high, the very basic ideals are completely different. Klopp wants gung-ho excitement, he wants his teams to attack with verve, to score goals and never stop going forward. Pochettino in his soul is more like his countryman and former international teammate Simeone, he absolutely detests conceding goals and while his team presses high it's as much for defensive purposes as offensive. Klopp would never strap his attackers into the irons of positioning and structure that Pochettino demands, and Pochettino would never dream of allowing the gaps that Klopp is ok with conceding. They are both brilliant managers who have built teams in their image in a hurry in the Premier League, but they seem diametrically opposed in their basic goals in terms of setting up their teams.

Final note, and I do find it odd that people don't talk about him more as one of the truly elite players in the world - I'm not sure if Toby Alderweireld isn't the best player in the entire Premier League. His first season at Southampton they shipped 13 less goals than the year before and had the best defense in the league. The he went to Spurs and they shipped 18 less goals than the year before and again had the best defense in the league. This season Spurs are on pace to concede fewer than 20 goals and have yet to concede from open play. He never commits fouls (8 all of last season, which is ludicrous statistic) and he's Pochettino's deputy on the pitch - a loud vocal presence organizing everyone and keeping the defensive shape in order. Quite simply, if you have Alderweireld, you likely have an elite defense. His impact is off the charts.
Great work, chap
 

Lighty64

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It happens every international break...people lose focus...there'll be at least another week of randomness and tangents reached.

thank god i'm off on me hols tomorrow, and return in time for the threads warming up for the WBA game:whistle:
 

Jgplk1

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They have a thread on Blue Moon about who's stronger... Us or Liverpool

I think Spurs have the better squad and will finish above Liverpool this season. For a one off game I think both of them will take points off us this season, but neither of them will be in the title hunt.
Clubwise, Spurs are in a far better position going forward.

I have to say I'm more than a little pissed off that these two are cropping up in the way they have been. Purely because I can't stand either of the twats. After the scum Liverpool are a very close 2nd, followed by Spurs, on my shit list.

In terms of quality and challenging I think both of them will be the closest and Pep alluded to it this afternoon. It pains me but both are very good teams with the type of set up that will eventually change the way the game is played here. Pottechino/Klopp and Pep are all innovative and top quality coaches.

Pottechino did an incredible job last year. He changed their mentality. A bit like Bobby did here. He's a coach I rate very highly.

Klopp has had a full summer and though inconsistency plagued them last year against teams they should be beating, I think this year the benefit of that summer is going to show. I've changed my tune from a few weeks ago given what I've seen from them since. I think the tide is switching between them and the scum. Maureen is yesterday's man.

In terms of quality I think Spurs are better and will finish 2nd. Liverpool 3rd. Arsenal 4th.


Two good teams, think Liverpool will go further this season without European football.

Liverpool have played 5 away from 7 so far and look very strong. Unless the wheels fall off they will be our biggest threat this season.

Spurs.

We're more exciting but Spurs have more solidity about them. They're good going forward and at the back, we're a bit lobsided.

And we make a meal of things, they go about their buisiness no fuss just picking up points. I'm afraid it really could be their year

A lot depends upon whoever does the best business when the transfer window opens again. If the Dippers get their defence sorted then you have to say they'll be there or thereabouts. I just don't see Spuds as title contenders, not yet anyway. But both these teams will give us a run for our money.

Both will finish top 3 IMO but feel that Spurs are a bit more balanced than Liverpool. Liverpool have no Europe though which may be enough of an advantage for them to finish above Spurs

Liverpool will finish above Spurs, comfortably.

I'm not sure tbh I think Spurs play more with their own identity which is the mark of a good manager, Liverpool play good attractive football but you couldn't really describe their style as it's a bit of a mix but Liverpool should have the edge in fitness and injuries this season... look what that did for Leicester.

How can anyone say this isn't the hardest league to win? With Chelsea and Liverpool both with strong squads, good managers and no European football to drain them or distract them from the league, Spurs with one of the best young managers with a talented young team that was already gelling last season, Arsenal are always there abouts, the Rags dare I say it will start picking up points sooner or later(as much as we joke about Pogba and Martial they will probably win games for them sooner or later on individual merit).

So glad we have Pep thinking about it, as much as I liked Pellers it would be far more daunting to think about the challenges ahead this season.

Spurs are brilliant

Think they'll both finish above us, the titles between them imo. All three of us have elite managers, their managers have just had longer to put in to practice their styles so it'll take a season or a few months for pep to catch up. He really needs half a new team.

 

Jgplk1

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A bit from Arsenal Mania

One thing in common with most of them is that once Arsène rejects them or they cannot fulfill their "dream" to play at Arsenal, they go into a "glad I joined a big club in London" hype.

Starting with Kane who couldn't make it as a youngster, David "next Beckham" Bentley, Darren Bent, Verthongen who Wenger didn't rate and rightly so, Victor "I should play for Arsenal" Wanyama, now it's Sissoko.

And who remembers Lewis "better than Özil" Holtby ?

The luck they had last season injury wise was unreal yet they still finished below us, jansen looks like half the player and unfortunately they will lose too many points by the time kane comes back, oh well

.Don't give a **** really. We'll beat these plonkers playing the way we are at the moment - Harry Kane or not

Say what you want about the Spuds, but they are run the right way and play good football to boot. I'd rather see them do well then teams like Chelsea, United and City who just throw money at anything that moves.

Hoping their stadium move nails them big time and they fall out of the top flight

Darren Lewis (Mirror) says that Poch isn't building a team to win the league, he's building a team to create a dynasty!

Talking about running before you can even walk.


Can't wait until the NLD this year. These games are going to be so crazy this season as we're both going for the title.

I think us and spurs have the best back 4 in the league I don't rate walker and rose but when on form they playing really well. But I must admit Vertonghen Aderweireld partnership look so solid.

Used to love them both when they came through at Ajax. Toby Alderweireld gave the greatest in depth interviews that showed unlike his hard man looks, he was a big old softie. And Jan Vertonghen who became a fans favorite and also a city favorite, a true Amsterdammer. Captain. Christian Eriksen who came through blowing everything and everyone away at youth level, with his amazing technique, shooting and vision. He was a kid playing with men, outplaying them. Good players, even better people. Hate that they have to play for Spurs.
 
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thinktank

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A bit from Arsenal Mania

One thing in common with most of them is that once Arsène rejects them or they cannot fulfill their "dream" to play at Arsenal, they go into a "glad I joined a big club in London" hype.

Starting with Kane who couldn't make it as a youngster, David "next Beckham" Bentley, Darren Bent, Verthongen who Wenger didn't rate and rightly so, Victor "I should play for Arsenal" Wanyama, now it's Sissoko.

And who remembers Lewis "better than Özil" Holtby ?

The luck they had last season injury wise was unreal yet they still finished below us, jansen looks like half the player and unfortunately they will lose too many points by the time kane comes back, oh well

.Don't give a **** really. We'll beat these plonkers playing the way we are at the moment - Harry Kane or not

Say what you want about the Spuds, but they are run the right way and play good football to boot. I'd rather see them do well then teams like Chelsea, United and City who just throw money at anything that moves.

Hoping their stadium move nails them big time and they fall out of the top flight

Darren Lewis (Mirror) says that Poch isn't building a team to win the league, he's building a team to create a dynasty!

Talking about running before you can even walk.


Can't wait until the NLD this year. These games are going to be so crazy this season as we're both going for the title.
They will have a slump and the fans will go for Wenger; they'll rally in the latter part of the season and make CL but win nothing. Fans apoplectic... Rinse, repeat.
 

jurgen

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What is this affectation of referring to teams as 'these' and why is it only used by the most one eyed and deluded fans on any given message board?

'We'll smash these' etc...
 
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