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rez9000

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That is all very fair, but even so that Leicester forum does seem to be an especially bitter and petty place. Most of those fans should be still waking up every morning and whistling a jolly dity and smiling at strangers because they got to see their team win the effing league.
Well, that's precisely the point - it's the forum, which isn't the whole fanbase. It may not be statistically significant, but I have a connection with Leicester and have a number of friends there who are all diehard Leicester fans. Not one of them has a bad thing to say about Spurs - they quite like us in fact and a couple are very complimentary about the way we've built ourselves up. They've bantered with me over their League win, but that banter was personal - it was because they were having fun with me as a person, not me as a Spurs fan. So, right there is an example of Leicester fans who are far from hostile, far from toxic. Funnily, of the five or six of them, only one posts on a football forum.

This demonstrates how there are many different subsets of fans. And to be fair, the vast majority won't post on internet forums. Again, look at SC:

It could be argued that SC is the most popular Spurs forum. It has 26,000 members. That won't represent more than the tiniest of fractions of the entire Spurs fan base. Hypothetically, if SC members were all to speak with one voice, would that represent what the entire Spurs fanbase thinks? Of course not. So why should any other club's forum be different?

This is why I don't have an issue with Liverpool fans. I've seen RAWK and I've met Liverpool fans in the flesh. And in the flesh they are very different to what you see on their forums. Likewise, with FoxesTalk. I've seen some of their posts, but I have real flesh-and-blood friends who are Leciester fans and the difference is chalk and cheese when it comes to Spurs.

"What our opponents' fans are saying about us" is nothing but a snapshot into what one section of fans thinks of us. An interesting one, to be sure, but not one that should be treated with any great significance or taken too seriously. It certainly shouldn't be used to cast an entire competing fanbase in the same light if for no other reason but that we'd only have other Spurs fans as friends.

You may see things that are toxic, you may see things that are even hateful. but it's not what every competing fan is saying about us.
 
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Well, that's precisely the point - it's the forum, which isn't the whole fanbase. It may not be statistically significant, but I have a connection with Leicester and have a number of friends there who are all diehard Leicester fans. Not one of them has a bad thing to say about Spurs - they quite like us in fact and a couple are very complimentary about the way we've built ourselves up. They've bantered with me over their League win, but that banter was personal - it was because they were having fun with me as a person, not me as a Spurs fan. So, right there is an example of Leicester fans who are far from hostile, far from toxic. Funnily, of the five or six of them, only one posts on a football forum.

This demonstrates how there are many different subsets of fans. And to be fair, the vast majority won't post on internet forums. Again, look at SC:

It could be argued that SC is the most popular Spurs forum. It has 26,000 members. That won't represent more than the tiniest of fractions of the entire Spurs fan base. Hypothetically, if SC members were all to speak with one voice, would that represent what the entire Spurs fanbase thinks? Of course not. So why should any other club's forum be different?

This is why I don't have an issue with Liverpool fans. I've seen RAWK and I've met Liverpool fans in the flesh. And in the flesh they are very different to what you see on their forums. Likewise, with FoxesTalk. I've seen some of their posts, but I have real flesh-and-blood friends who are Leciester fans and the difference is chalk and cheese when it comes to Spurs.

"What our opponents' fans are saying about us" is nothing but a snapshot into what one section of fans thinks of us. An interesting one, to be sure, but not one that should be treated with any great significance or taken too seriously. It certainly shouldn't be used to cast an entire competing fanbase in the same light' if for not other reason but that we'd only have other Spurs fans as friends.

You may see things that are toxic, you may see things that are even hateful. but it's not what every competing fan is saying about us.

Get out of here you. Logic and reason is not allowed on this platform
 

easley91

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What you have to remember when going through this thread, twitter and what not is how the minority are cast like a majority, because they are the more vocal. I have Arsenal uncle and cousins, banter is good, but they agree that Spurs are doing well and competing. Derby days are different, but that is to be expected. My father and brother are Chelsea, yet are very complimentary towards us. Even gone to Spurs games with them. Dad got us season tickets ages ago, and became a member with me, because he loved watching us play, wanted to take me along when he could as he often worked abroad, and it was good days out to spend with him. Especially now when he works over in the Middle East. All three of us went to the Wolves defeat in club Wembley. Bad result, great day with family.
 

dagraham

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Think I'd rather arsenal tbh. Just about.
They've won it 3 times so it's not a first for them (PL era)
I literally cannot stand "fans" of clubs from the north of England that come from the south east and wouldn't even know how to get to a match, let alone actually turn up.
Liverpool fans are arrogant tossers that have ridden their 70's and 80's glory days for 30 years. 1 CL and a few domestic cups in that time barely puts them above us and us consistently finishing above them for the best part of 10 years says it all.

Make a cup of tea or coffee, sit down and have a long think about what you’ve just said.
 

E17yid

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Think I'd rather arsenal tbh. Just about.
They've won it 3 times so it's not a first for them (PL era)
I literally cannot stand "fans" of clubs from the north of England that come from the south east and wouldn't even know how to get to a match, let alone actually turn up.
Liverpool fans are arrogant tossers that have ridden their 70's and 80's glory days for 30 years. 1 CL and a few domestic cups in that time barely puts them above us and us consistently finishing above them for the best part of 10 years says it all.



What argument? Someone said they didn't understand the hatred for us. I explained, from what I've garnered from those fans, was the reason.

I dislike internet Liverpool fans as much as the next man but never would I rather Arsenal win the league over them. You’re weird.

I got no problem with people from the south supporting northern teams personally. Some have good reasons others are just glory hunters but you can’t limit fans to a postcode. That’d be shit.

It’s a screw you to all our foreign fans, too. Though, tbf, you’ve got to be a bit weird to be a foreigner and choose to support Spurs. We never win anything and we have a chicken for a badge.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Make a cup of tea or coffee, sit down and have a long think about what you’ve just said.

To be fair, it's been so long since Arsenal were in a title race I've forgotten how their fans act....

I dislike internet Liverpool fans as much as the next man but never would I rather Arsenal win the league over them. You’re weird.

I got no problem with people from the south supporting northern teams personally. Some have good reasons others are just glory hunters but you can’t limit fans to a postcode. That’d be shit.

It’s a screw you to all our foreign fans, too. Though, tbf, you’ve got to be a bit weird to be a foreigner and choose to support Spurs. We never win anything and we have a chicken for a badge.

I don't hate people for what team they support. I just can't suffer the unjustified arrogance of them. Liverpool, a team who, in a few years (if they don't win it this year) will have won their last title closer to our last title than the present day, believe it's their divine right to win it, they believe it's always been coming, they discount the years of finishing 7th, United catching up their trophy count and surpassing it, they all believe they are and always have been THE most important side in England.
And I'm not talking about internet fans, I'm talking about real people, people I know, people I see, idiots on the TV etc.
We don't need them winning a title for another 30 years IMO, bring them down to where we've been since the mid 90's - glorious past but fuck all to talk about now.
 

smallsnc

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I dislike internet Liverpool fans as much as the next man but never would I rather Arsenal win the league over them. You’re weird.

I got no problem with people from the south supporting northern teams personally. Some have good reasons others are just glory hunters but you can’t limit fans to a postcode. That’d be shit.

It’s a screw you to all our foreign fans, too. Though, tbf, you’ve got to be a bit weird to be a foreigner and choose to support Spurs. We never win anything and we have a chicken for a badge.

Well some of us "foreigners" are Spurs fans because the Arsenal fans over here are a bunch a$$h0les! Besides, I like the way the club is run and the football we play.
 

The Scarecrow

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Think I'd rather arsenal tbh. Just about.
They've won it 3 times so it's not a first for them (PL era)
I literally cannot stand "fans" of clubs from the north of England that come from the south east and wouldn't even know how to get to a match, let alone actually turn up.
Liverpool fans are arrogant tossers that have ridden their 70's and 80's glory days for 30 years. 1 CL and a few domestic cups in that time barely puts them above us and us consistently finishing above them for the best part of 10 years says it all.
I kind of agree. I grew up when Arsenal were at their best under Wenger, so I feel like they're supposed to be that good. As for Liverpool, I know so many "fans" who I reckon would struggle to name any players other than Salah, and they're going to be absolutely unbearable if they win the league.
 

Insomnia

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Well some of us "foreigners" are Spurs fans because the Arsenal fans over here are a bunch a$$h0les! Besides, I like the way the club is run and the football we play.
My family is from North London. My Mum's side all ****'s but my Dad side Spurs. I was Spurs before I could talk. My 5 Children are all Spurs. Rarely have I met someone who actually chose to support Spurs, all my Spurs mates were Spurs because of family. I love that about our Club. I used to joke that the reason I brainwashed my children into following Spurs was that it was a family curse & if I was going to be miserable at the weekend, so could they , we could all suffer together .But there has been a massive change in the last few years (granted no silverwear yet) but maybe, me and my kids & my fellow brothers & sisters that follow this unique Club won't have to suffer for much longer. The future is bright, the future is Lillywhite
 

TheBlueRooster

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Well, that's precisely the point - it's the forum, which isn't the whole fanbase. It may not be statistically significant, but I have a connection with Leicester and have a number of friends there who are all diehard Leicester fans. Not one of them has a bad thing to say about Spurs - they quite like us in fact and a couple are very complimentary about the way we've built ourselves up. They've bantered with me over their League win, but that banter was personal - it was because they were having fun with me as a person, not me as a Spurs fan. So, right there is an example of Leicester fans who are far from hostile, far from toxic. Funnily, of the five or six of them, only one posts on a football forum.

This demonstrates how there are many different subsets of fans. And to be fair, the vast majority won't post on internet forums. Again, look at SC:

It could be argued that SC is the most popular Spurs forum. It has 26,000 members. That won't represent more than the tiniest of fractions of the entire Spurs fan base. Hypothetically, if SC members were all to speak with one voice, would that represent what the entire Spurs fanbase thinks? Of course not. So why should any other club's forum be different?

This is why I don't have an issue with Liverpool fans. I've seen RAWK and I've met Liverpool fans in the flesh. And in the flesh they are very different to what you see on their forums. Likewise, with FoxesTalk. I've seen some of their posts, but I have real flesh-and-blood friends who are Leciester fans and the difference is chalk and cheese when it comes to Spurs.

"What our opponents' fans are saying about us" is nothing but a snapshot into what one section of fans thinks of us. An interesting one, to be sure, but not one that should be treated with any great significance or taken too seriously. It certainly shouldn't be used to cast an entire competing fanbase in the same light if for no other reason but that we'd only have other Spurs fans as friends.

You may see things that are toxic, you may see things that are even hateful. but it's not what every competing fan is saying about us.

Same here, a couple of mates of mine are from Leicester and we regularly traveled to filbert Street to watch matches and had great days out, days that will stay with me forever. So when they won the PL I for one was pleased for them, OK a bit pissed off that we didn't win but wasn't unhappy that my little foxy friends did.
 
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mabolsa_ritchey

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I work just outside of Leicester, so most guys here are season ticket holders. On the whole, they reckon they'll get something from the game.
They have been particularly amused this week because the majority of them here think Maddison is a show pony who slows down their attacks, so they're hoping we buy him!
 

Hotspurious

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I dislike internet Liverpool fans as much as the next man but never would I rather Arsenal win the league over them. You’re weird.

I got no problem with people from the south supporting northern teams personally. Some have good reasons others are just glory hunters but you can’t limit fans to a postcode. That’d be shit.

It’s a screw you to all our foreign fans, too. Though, tbf, you’ve got to be a bit weird to be a foreigner and choose to support Spurs. We never win anything and we have a chicken for a badge.
I'm a foreign fan. I chose Spurs for a number of reasons one of which is I wanted to earn it I guess. There's no glory in picking a team you have no connection to just because they win all the time. For me, at the time, Spurs seemed like a club that had potential to be very good but that would provide all the requisite suffering in the meantime so that I would enjoy success all the more. And, I rather like the chicken badge - it's original relative to most of the others. There were other reasons of course. I like the colors, the history was intriguing, the location was convenient to get to, I had seen Lennon and Keano before and liked their style...the F you to anti-Semites by adopting the yiddo/yid moniker, the invest in youth approach by management,...all kinds of reasons really.
 

Lighty64

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I kind of agree. I grew up when Arsenal were at their best under Wenger, so I feel like they're supposed to be that good. As for Liverpool, I know so many "fans" who I reckon would struggle to name any players other than Salah, and they're going to be absolutely unbearable if they win the league.

to be honest if we was to win the league, so would we be unbearable:cautious:
 

rez9000

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My family is from North London. My Mum's side all ****'s but my Dad side Spurs. I was Spurs before I could talk. My 5 Children are all Spurs. Rarely have I met someone who actually chose to support Spurs, all my Spurs mates were Spurs because of family. I love that about our Club. I used to joke that the reason I brainwashed my children into following Spurs was that it was a family curse & if I was going to be miserable at the weekend, so could they , we could all suffer together .But there has been a massive change in the last few years (granted no silverwear yet) but maybe, me and my kids & my fellow brothers & sisters that follow this unique Club won't have to suffer for much longer. The future is bright, the future is Lillywhite
It's a nice way for it to work out for your kids - that you chose a club that starts to rise as they get older, even if it wasn't what you envisaged . Hopefully, some nice memories on the way for them.

I support Spurs because of my brother. He supports us because he moved here from Iran at the age of 7 and wanted a team to support and liked the name. He almost became an Aston Villa fan and then I wouldn't even be here... (on SC).
 
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we_all_loved_freund

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Well, that's precisely the point - it's the forum, which isn't the whole fanbase. It may not be statistically significant, but I have a connection with Leicester and have a number of friends there who are all diehard Leicester fans. Not one of them has a bad thing to say about Spurs - they quite like us in fact and a couple are very complimentary about the way we've built ourselves up. They've bantered with me over their League win, but that banter was personal - it was because they were having fun with me as a person, not me as a Spurs fan. So, right there is an example of Leicester fans who are far from hostile, far from toxic. Funnily, of the five or six of them, only one posts on a football forum.

This demonstrates how there are many different subsets of fans. And to be fair, the vast majority won't post on internet forums. Again, look at SC:

It could be argued that SC is the most popular Spurs forum. It has 26,000 members. That won't represent more than the tiniest of fractions of the entire Spurs fan base. Hypothetically, if SC members were all to speak with one voice, would that represent what the entire Spurs fanbase thinks? Of course not. So why should any other club's forum be different?

This is why I don't have an issue with Liverpool fans. I've seen RAWK and I've met Liverpool fans in the flesh. And in the flesh they are very different to what you see on their forums. Likewise, with FoxesTalk. I've seen some of their posts, but I have real flesh-and-blood friends who are Leciester fans and the difference is chalk and cheese when it comes to Spurs.

"What our opponents' fans are saying about us" is nothing but a snapshot into what one section of fans thinks of us. An interesting one, to be sure, but not one that should be treated with any great significance or taken too seriously. It certainly shouldn't be used to cast an entire competing fanbase in the same light if for no other reason but that we'd only have other Spurs fans as friends.

You may see things that are toxic, you may see things that are even hateful. but it's not what every competing fan is saying about us.

Ive been away to Leicester the last 4 or 5 season so. I can honestly say the level of hatred displayed towards us since thir title season is on a level with just about anything I have experienced at an away ground. They really, really do not like us.
 

rez9000

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Ive been away to Leicester the last 4 or 5 season so. I can honestly say the level of hatred displayed towards us since thir title season is on a level with just about anything I have experienced at an away ground. They really, really do not like us.
I wouldn't take what's expressed during the cauldron of a football game as a particularly reliable barometer of how a group of people feels about another group of people, would you?

Plus which, like the internet forum subset, those who attend matches also do not represent the entirety of a club's fanbase.
 
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