What our opponents' fans are saying

[shelfmonkey]

I'm a bum at the moment (have been for the past week) so decided to do a bit of whoring this morning. Clicked on the first scum forum I saw and came across a horrible little article. It wasn't so bad until I saw the sign off from the poster.

This will make any man shudder:

UP THE ARSE!!!! COYG!!!!!

Spicy

Is that bern's mum?

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Thread: Doing business with S P U R S

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Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am
Should be illegal, should be banned as the 11th Commandment, should viewed as lower than incest.

Apart from Matty Etherington, are there any players we have had off them that have been any good?

We sold them Martin Peters, and got a washed up, pissed Jimmy Greaves in return.

We have sold them Paul Allen, Jemaine Defoe and Michael Carrick.

They have lumbered us with Mitchell Thomas who helped us to stone last and relegation in his debut season.

Why would we possibly have wanted Kaboul and Adebayor? If Spurs don't rate them (their fans don't) then why do we want them? What message is that sending out?

Add in Spygate, how Levy tried to shaft us over the OS, why are we trying to do business with those scumbags?

Thought in the past we'd promised never to do anything with them?


Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by snooperpooper on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:36 am
I think the more important discussion point here is that clearly Spurs see us as a major threat going forwards.

Their approach to us getting the OS, the subsequent push on developing their own ground's capacity and their clear moratorium on trading players with us sends a loud message of panic and fear in regards to WHUFC overtaking them commercially and on the pitch.

Let battle commence!

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by kenthammer1984 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:39 am
Levy is a business man. He sees us as a threat to a top 5 or 6 finish. Why would he want one of his prized assets being sent to a near rival?

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by hxhammer on Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:40 am
Lets be honest, it wasn't hard for Levy to come out on top in dealing with that f*cking dope Gold, he's an embarrassment

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by chappo59 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:20 pm
I thought it was us playing poker with Levy to be honest. I would've been more pissed off if he'd have pulled the plug at the last minute with us agreeing to pay half his wages but wanting spurs to pay it all was a cheeky little shot to nothing on our part. At least it has flushed out Levy's belief that we are serious rivals to them.

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by il_martello_di_genovesi on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:12 pm
I don't see how Levy has come out on top that much really?

-He's basically admitted that he is worried about us challenging for the same league position as them. Which affects the future, something else he is clearly worried about.

-Is now stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be there for £100,000 per week.

To us, it would've been an upgrade, but it's not like we're that desperate in that department, if Carroll isn't out for long, and Sakho gets cleared to play. We also have Valencia we can play there.

Light years? b*llocks...

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:34 pm
Dyer's Leg wrote:
I don't know who we think we are. If we had got him, he would have been the best striker at the club.


I think you are ploughing a lone furrow with that one......or fishing

2 goals in 15 appearances this season. Spurs fans want him gone. He is seen as uncommitted and lazy.

Rather an insult to Carroll and Sakho to rate him above them.

Who we think we are? We are a club that is meant to be building to the OS, a club that should be pretty much on a par with the Spuds. Therefore buying their cast offs is negative thinking in my book. The days when we buy players who are long past their best should be over.

This club once used to buy the Lee Chapmans, the Freddie Ljunbergs and the Mike Newells of the footballing world. Always hoping to drag out the old magic when it had gone.

I'd much rather invest in the Sakhos, the Cresswell's and Poyet's than help those scumbags get a player they don't want off their wage bill.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

Thread: Doing business with S P U R S

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Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by kenthammer1984 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:39 am
Levy is a business man. He sees us as a threat to a top 5 or 6 finish. Why would he want one of his prized assets being sent to a near rival?

Yes, yes....one of our untouchable talents he is....you must overpay for him to grace the pitch for you lot.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Thread: Doing business with S P U R S

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Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am
Should be illegal, should be banned as the 11th Commandment, should viewed as lower than incest.

Apart from Matty Etherington, are there any players we have had off them that have been any good?

We sold them Martin Peters, and got a washed up, pissed Jimmy Greaves in return.

We have sold them Paul Allen, Jemaine Defoe and Michael Carrick.

They have lumbered us with Mitchell Thomas who helped us to stone last and relegation in his debut season.

Why would we possibly have wanted Kaboul and Adebayor? If Spurs don't rate them (their fans don't) then why do we want them? What message is that sending out?

Add in Spygate, how Levy tried to shaft us over the OS, why are we trying to do business with those scumbags?

Thought in the past we'd promised never to do anything with them?


Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by snooperpooper on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:36 am
I think the more important discussion point here is that clearly Spurs see us as a major threat going forwards.

Their approach to us getting the OS, the subsequent push on developing their own ground's capacity and their clear moratorium on trading players with us sends a loud message of panic and fear in regards to WHUFC overtaking them commercially and on the pitch.

Let battle commence!

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by kenthammer1984 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:39 am
Levy is a business man. He sees us as a threat to a top 5 or 6 finish. Why would he want one of his prized assets being sent to a near rival?

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by hxhammer on Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:40 am
Lets be honest, it wasn't hard for Levy to come out on top in dealing with that f*cking dope Gold, he's an embarrassment

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by chappo59 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:20 pm
I thought it was us playing poker with Levy to be honest. I would've been more pissed off if he'd have pulled the plug at the last minute with us agreeing to pay half his wages but wanting spurs to pay it all was a cheeky little shot to nothing on our part. At least it has flushed out Levy's belief that we are serious rivals to them.

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by il_martello_di_genovesi on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:12 pm
I don't see how Levy has come out on top that much really?

-He's basically admitted that he is worried about us challenging for the same league position as them. Which affects the future, something else he is clearly worried about.

-Is now stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be there for £100,000 per week.

To us, it would've been an upgrade, but it's not like we're that desperate in that department, if Carroll isn't out for long, and Sakho gets cleared to play. We also have Valencia we can play there.

Light years? b*llocks...

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:34 pm
Dyer's Leg wrote:
I don't know who we think we are. If we had got him, he would have been the best striker at the club.


I think you are ploughing a lone furrow with that one......or fishing

2 goals in 15 appearances this season. Spurs fans want him gone. He is seen as uncommitted and lazy.

Rather an insult to Carroll and Sakho to rate him above them.

Who we think we are? We are a club that is meant to be building to the OS, a club that should be pretty much on a par with the Spuds. Therefore buying their cast offs is negative thinking in my book. The days when we buy players who are long past their best should be over.

This club once used to buy the Lee Chapmans, the Freddie Ljunbergs and the Mike Newells of the footballing world. Always hoping to drag out the old magic when it had gone.

I'd much rather invest in the Sakhos, the Cresswell's and Poyet's than help those scumbags get a player they don't want off their wage bill.

It's always funny when they're above 15th in the league and the delusion starts coming to the surface. My mate wanted to bet me that they'd finish above us after their good start but I didn't accept because I knew it would be an unfair bet and he wouldn't really be able to afford it. Sometimes it's good to take pity on them.

 

[Japhet]

It's always funny when they're above 15th in the league and the delusion starts coming to the surface. My mate wanted to bet me that they'd finish above us after their good start but I didn't accept because I knew it would be an unfair bet and he wouldn't really be able to afford it. Sometimes it's good to take pity on them.

I'd have taken the bet - even if you didn't take the money.

 

[teddy_sheringham_125]

It always makes me laugh when these clubs get genuine delusions of grandeur. West Ham a threat to Spurs? Come on, that's madness. OK, they may win a few games and go on a little run, but it's not a long term position is it? I can have my spurs-tinted glasses on as much as the next fan, but I'm not going to truly believe that we are going to compete with Man City/Man Utd/Chelski long term unless things change drastically in terms of spending philosophy.

 

[mk_spur]

I think were 1 or 2 injuries (kane or ericksen) away from being shall we say not so confident of being above them. its not as if us spurs fans have never got over confident for it to crumble in front of us anyone remember mind the gap....

 

[nightgoat]

Their next three games are Man Utd at home, Southampton and us away. With Swansea, Stoke and Newcastle all having games they should expect to take points from over the same period by the end of February the table should be a more accurate representation of where West Ham should be - mid table at best.

 

[yido_number1]

Initial reaction to Redknapp sacking on QPR boards:

I will get my 1st good nights sleep for about 3 months.

Just bought my ticket and the club now get my full backing, really hope it works out for Sir Les, at least he cares.
i bet they are relieved , i expect a statement on the official website soon

He has done a job on us, could have done this 2 weeks ago leaving a new manager to bring some players in. Now we get relegated and as far as he is concerned it is not all his fault. Ridiculous.

As if he just found out about surgery, he is hardly on the waiting list at Bournemouth General!!
agree with this-should have made this decision before the window.

Brilliant news! Our squad is still capable of staying up and just needed a little tweK here and there. Someone like sjerwood or les will make the big decision imo. Drop Barton mover Fer in the middle and play Phillips more.

We still have a shot at staying up and with some fresh blood and someone with the balls to change a couple of things I'm now a little more confident.

Grateful for Harry getting us back up but he has made this job 10 x harder than it ever needed it to be!

 

[JerryGarcia]

I'd have taken the bet - even if you didn't take the money.

That must be a form of betting I'm not aware of, I did firmly state that he was talking out of his arse and declared that Spurs would be triumphant if that counts?

 

[SFCS]

It always makes me laugh when these clubs get genuine delusions of grandeur. West Ham a threat to Spurs? Come on, that's madness. OK, they may win a few games and go on a little run, but it's not a long term position is it? I can have my spurs-tinted glasses on as much as the next fan, but I'm not going to truly believe that we are going to compete with Man City/Man Utd/Chelski long term unless things change drastically in terms of spending philosophy.

Exactly. History will tell you that sides that are much higher in the league than expected in December/January tend to tail off. It happened to us when we were 3 points off first going into the new year, it happened to Southampton last year. Villa, Newcastle, Everton, Liverpool, it happens more often than not. That's not to say it can't be done though, or that West Ham are no threat to us.

Long term is where fans tend to be really blinkered to the truth. It's one thing to finish above a bigger club in one season but to do it regularly is much harder because the club has never pushed on as much as the fans think. Talk of West Ham, or Southampton overtaking us or even matching us in the long term would still be fanciful if they finished above us. We've finished above every club other than Arsenal in recent seasons but that didn't do us much good. Everton finished above ourselves and United last season and they all thought the revolution had come, even though it was plain to see they'd just spent about £40mill on essentially bringing in Besic and swapping Atsu in for Delefeuo(or however it's spelt). Every recent season it's the same with 3 or 4 of Arsenal, Chelsea, City and United at the top, ourselves and Liverpool either just behind or ocassionally upsetting things a bit and then 1 or 2 other sides which have an impressive season only to disappear again over the next 12 months.

Good luck to them if they think they're on the verge of establishing themselves at the top of the table, they're going to need it, filling the OS with kids for a quid tickets and free binoculars to help see the pitch isn't going to have the impact they think it will.

 

[tommo84]

The West Ham fans, and those cowboys the Porn Twins, see the OS as their ticket to a billionaire owner and Man City type revolution. However, the terms of the OS lease make them a less desirable target for a takeover and FFP will make it very difficult to spend big unless they are consistently filling the OS. Given how difficult they find it to fill Upton Park, I'd say that's unlikely.

Not out of the question, but unlikely. What is more likely is that the OS will be 2/3 full for most games but the lack of atmosphere will hinder them on the field and in 5 years' time they'll still be a mid-table club as they are now, but they'll have sold their soul in order to merely stand still.

 

[RickyVilla]

The West Ham fans, and those cowboys the Porn Twins, see the OS as their ticket to a billionaire owner and Man City type revolution. However, the terms of the OS lease make them a less desirable target for a takeover and FFP will make it very difficult to spend big unless they are consistently filling the OS. Given how difficult they find it to fill Upton Park, I'd say that's unlikely.

Not out of the question, but unlikely. What is more likely is that the OS will be 2/3 full for most games but the lack of atmosphere will hinder them on the field and in 5 years' time they'll be relegated and back where they belong, but they'll have sold their soul in order to merely stand still.

Fixed

 

[StartingPrice]

You're Welsh?

Whoda thunk?

I'm not Welsh...but I did live their for a good whack. Man, them fences really are so difficult to get sheep over. And them wellies, with the wide-angle legs, the sheep's poor little feet ('Paws, hooves...paws!!!' q.v. Goodfellas) really do slip down into your wellies while you try to get them over the difficult fences...

 

[StartingPrice]

Better not have been!

Sorry

Don't take it personal though, it was a generic parody

 

[StartingPrice]

Wake up man Chelsea could buy a lot better than Harry Kane at the minute for £50 million! That sort of money gets you in talks for Benzema, Lewandowski etc

M8 Mate, I said it tongue-in-cheek

But while we're on the subject, I, for one, will put no limit whatsoever on how good Harry Kane can become. I'd accept he isn't the finished article just yet, and needs to perform at this level and, hopefully, in the CL (with us!) before he could be accepted as being on a par with these players. But I won't say he can't do that, either

 

[Woland]

Apart from Matty Etherington, are there any players we have had off them that have been any good?

1. Zamora? 1 in 4 ain't a bad return you never had it so good

Their approach to us getting the OS, the subsequent push on developing their own ground's capacity and their clear moratorium on trading players with us sends a loud message of panic and fear in regards to WHUFC overtaking them commercially and on the pitch.

2. Reid inquiry? Ade, Kaboul offering? Morontorium, more like.

Doing business with S P U R S by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am
Should be illegal, should be banned as the 11th Commandment, should viewed as lower than incest.

11. Go **** your mum

 

[StartingPrice]

Thread: Doing business with S P U R S

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Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am
Should be illegal, should be banned as the 11th Commandment, should viewed as lower than incest.

Apart from Matty Etherington, are there any players we have had off them that have been any good?

We sold them Martin Peters, and got a washed up, pissed Jimmy Greaves in return.

We have sold them Paul Allen, Jemaine Defoe and Michael Carrick.

They have lumbered us with Mitchell Thomas who helped us to stone last and relegation in his debut season.

Why would we possibly have wanted Kaboul and Adebayor? If Spurs don't rate them (their fans don't) then why do we want them? What message is that sending out?

Add in Spygate, how Levy tried to shaft us over the OS, why are we trying to do business with those scumbags?

Thought in the past we'd promised never to do anything with them?


Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by snooperpooper on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:36 am
I think the more important discussion point here is that clearly Spurs see us as a major threat going forwards.

Their approach to us getting the OS, the subsequent push on developing their own ground's capacity and their clear moratorium on trading players with us sends a loud message of panic and fear in regards to WHUFC overtaking them commercially and on the pitch.

Let battle commence!

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by kenthammer1984 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:39 am
Levy is a business man. He sees us as a threat to a top 5 or 6 finish. Why would he want one of his prized assets being sent to a near rival?

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by hxhammer on Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:40 am
Lets be honest, it wasn't hard for Levy to come out on top in dealing with that f*cking dope Gold, he's an embarrassment

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by chappo59 on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:20 pm
I thought it was us playing poker with Levy to be honest. I would've been more pissed off if he'd have pulled the plug at the last minute with us agreeing to pay half his wages but wanting spurs to pay it all was a cheeky little shot to nothing on our part. At least it has flushed out Levy's belief that we are serious rivals to them.

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by il_martello_di_genovesi on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:12 pm
I don't see how Levy has come out on top that much really?

-He's basically admitted that he is worried about us challenging for the same league position as them. Which affects the future, something else he is clearly worried about.

-Is now stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be there for £100,000 per week.

To us, it would've been an upgrade, but it's not like we're that desperate in that department, if Carroll isn't out for long, and Sakho gets cleared to play. We also have Valencia we can play there.

Light years? b*llocks...

Re: Doing business with S P U R S
by Bend it like Repka on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:34 pm
Dyer's Leg wrote:
I don't know who we think we are. If we had got him, he would have been the best striker at the club.


I think you are ploughing a lone furrow with that one......or fishing

2 goals in 15 appearances this season. Spurs fans want him gone. He is seen as uncommitted and lazy.

Rather an insult to Carroll and Sakho to rate him above them.

Who we think we are? We are a club that is meant to be building to the OS, a club that should be pretty much on a par with the Spuds. Therefore buying their cast offs is negative thinking in my book. The days when we buy players who are long past their best should be over.

This club once used to buy the Lee Chapmans, the Freddie Ljunbergs and the Mike Newells of the footballing world. Always hoping to drag out the old magic when it had gone.

I'd much rather invest in the Sakhos, the Cresswell's and Poyet's than help those scumbags get a player they don't want off their wage bill.

LoL - it sounds like he believes we only decided to go for a larger capacity because they won the OS. We were going for the OS because we want a larger capacity. If no-one had won the OS we would still have been looking for some way to play in a larger capacity stadium

Why would they want Kaboul and Adebayor? If I could hazard a guess...they are better than the players you have. That Winston Reid looks half good, though, maybe us or another real time could save him from their Dildo Arena hell.

Chelsea didn't sell us Schurrle - we are more of a threat to them than the Spammers are to us LoL

So, let me get this straight (please help me here if I've gotten a bit confused):
Levy is living in fear and panic at the threat posed by Wet Spam.
Levy is a business man.
Lets be honest, it wasn't hard for Levy to come out on top.
He's dealing with a dope...therefore we can extrapolate the coming out on top into future dealings.
But he doesn't see how Levy has come out on top that much, really, anyway.
The poster lists a catalogue of times Spurs have come on out on top of/fecked over the Spammers.

So, Levy is a business man, competing in the football business where money and revenues are an important aid to success, and he is living in fear and panic of the Spammers because he has come out on top of them, which can be located in a context of Spurs coming out on top of the Spammers. But that's not really coming out on top - which is probably what is leading to Levy's fear and panic.

Awwwwww, bless...think the poor fella's a bit conflicted

 

[King of Otters]

Some actually rather nice comments from Utd fans on Kane.

He's impressed me now it has to be said. He seems like he could happily play anywhere along the front and be dangerous. He's taken his chance in the first team incredibly well, 20 goals this season is impressive

He needs to stay at Spurs and continue to flourish before he even considers moving. I hope for his sake that Eriksen sticks around, they seem to have a good understanding developing.

It all looks quite natural to him. Hard working as well, he deserves the praise.

Growing on me like an acquired taste. Not a big fan of stereotypical target-men but he is just scoring a plethora of exceptional goals so there's something to be said in terms of the attacking/ technical/ creative qualities in his repertoire. Little details in terms of overall gameplay that people like me initially underestimated having intermittently watched him for the England junior teams/ on loan at lower league clubs. One poster used the Bale analogy and I can't help but agree. Has really taken on the responsibility of being the focal point of Tottenham's attack and blossomed, on top of forming a nice little axis with the equally brilliant Eriksen. Making folks like me eat crow with each passing game. Didn't think he was much cop, turns out the lad is on his way to the top.

If Kane maintains the form he is in along with Eriksen then Spurs are looking like favourites for one of the last 2 top 4 places ahead of us. Spurs have been in better form than us of late along with playing good stuff and are right on our tails. Fingers crossed they hit a bad form patch soon

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Still not overly convinced, get the feeling sooner rather than later teams will figure him out and we'll see if he adjusts and carries on.

It's not as if teams don't already know he likes to run with the ball. The trouble is he's big and strong so it's difficult to stop him. It's not as it's not known that he's an aerial threat. The problem is he's tall and has good anticipation, which is hard to deal with. It's well known he's got great power in his shots and needs little back lift, but as Shearer pointed out, he can also curl and place shots, so it's hard to predict what he's going to do. Against Sheff Utd in the week, he had a poor night in front of goal, but then he dropped into the hole and played a fantastic assist for Eriksens goal. He just really doesn't strike me a player teams will "figure out" as his game is too well rounded. Pulis is no mug and they'd have planned all week on how to deal with him. Mourinho is a stickler for detail and Kane went into that Chelsea game in great form and would certainly have been a focus during Chelsea's preparations. Yet they couldn't deal with him.

Every time I'm telling myself he's just another overhyped English youngster, he pulls out another facet of his game (like that amazing reverse pass vs us or the assist vs Sheff U). He's got some serious tools in his locker this lad. Interested in how he develops.

I'm probably going to get slaughtered for this but with his all round game as a #9 I think he's potentially an English Benzema

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/harry-kane.399353/page-17

 

[Spurger King]

Some actually rather nice comments from Utd fans on Kane.

He's impressed me now it has to be said. He seems like he could happily play anywhere along the front and be dangerous. He's taken his chance in the first team incredibly well, 20 goals this season is impressive

He needs to stay at Spurs and continue to flourish before he even considers moving. I hope for his sake that Eriksen sticks around, they seem to have a good understanding developing.

It all looks quite natural to him. Hard working as well, he deserves the praise.

Growing on me like an acquired taste. Not a big fan of stereotypical target-men but he is just scoring a plethora of exceptional goals so there's something to be said in terms of the attacking/ technical/ creative qualities in his repertoire. Little details in terms of overall gameplay that people like me initially underestimated having intermittently watched him for the England junior teams/ on loan at lower league clubs. One poster used the Bale analogy and I can't help but agree. Has really taken on the responsibility of being the focal point of Tottenham's attack and blossomed, on top of forming a nice little axis with the equally brilliant Eriksen. Making folks like me eat crow with each passing game. Didn't think he was much cop, turns out the lad is on his way to the top.

If Kane maintains the form he is in along with Eriksen then Spurs are looking like favourites for one of the last 2 top 4 places ahead of us. Spurs have been in better form than us of late along with playing good stuff and are right on our tails. Fingers crossed they hit a bad form patch soon

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Still not overly convinced, get the feeling sooner rather than later teams will figure him out and we'll see if he adjusts and carries on.

It's not as if teams don't already know he likes to run with the ball. The trouble is he's big and strong so it's difficult to stop him. It's not as it's not known that he's an aerial threat. The problem is he's tall and has good anticipation, which is hard to deal with. It's well known he's got great power in his shots and needs little back lift, but as Shearer pointed out, he can also curl and place shots, so it's hard to predict what he's going to do. Against Sheff Utd in the week, he had a poor night in front of goal, but then he dropped into the hole and played a fantastic assist for Eriksens goal. He just really doesn't strike me a player teams will "figure out" as his game is too well rounded. Pulis is no mug and they'd have planned all week on how to deal with him. Mourinho is a stickler for detail and Kane went into that Chelsea game in great form and would certainly have been a focus during Chelsea's preparations. Yet they couldn't deal with him.

Every time I'm telling myself he's just another overhyped English youngster, he pulls out another facet of his game (like that amazing reverse pass vs us or the assist vs Sheff U). He's got some serious tools in his locker this lad. Interested in how he develops.

I'm probably going to get slaughtered for this but with his all round game as a #9 I think he's potentially an English Benzema

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/harry-kane.399353/page-17

I think that's a good assessment. He's multi-faceted and can make a difference even when not scoring goals. I think he's got good (but not exceptional) all-round skills, but has an exceptional footballing brain that maximises those skills.

He's even getting credit from Gooners from what I've read recently. A few saying it's just a purple patch, but the majority recognise talent when they see it.