What our opponents' fans are saying

[Lighty64]

We will never get anywhere by putting these supposedly bigger teams on a pedestal. They have good finance because they were doing well when the Premiership took off worldwide and therefore have a worldwide fan base. Amazingly enough they did well in Suarez's last season because .... they had Suarez! Like when we had Bale. They also have a biased media backing them. However, the reality is we have consistently finished above them, currently have a better team and are attractive because of our London location.

not being funny, cause I enjoy finishing above them, but........ I would swap our league finishing positions over theirs over the last 6 years for their history since the 70's every day of the week + what have we won over the last 6yrs? cause we don't get a trophy for finishing above them

 

[Lighty64]

So in 3 games, we haven't beaten Leicester this season.

We have a fourth and final game coming up against them this season.

We are in no place to give it the biggen, they are above us, have more wins and now beaten us at home.

Can't do anything but say well done, regardless of how they are winning, one thing is for certain, Leicester are showing the league what real hardword and never giving up can actually do.

we've never beaten a team managed by Ranieri

 

[archiewasking]

Why do all opposition fans pick out Eriksen, do they even watch us?

I don't.

 

[YidNick]

United fans on the prospect of them getting McDermott

Why don't we raid Southampton's academy, with all the good young players that have come through there, somebody must be doing something right.

Spurs is a much better academy which is consistently churning out good players (and will only improve judging from the qualities of their younger crops).Southampton got an exceptional 1995 born crop and some very good players (Bale,AOC) but the rest is quite effy.

McDermott I heard has quite a long term relationship with United.

Just poach Pochettino as well...........job done!

How do stories like this get out? I just can't see how in any way it a positive thing to write this the media.

Unless it is mischief making by Spurs, ie they know full well he won't leave them so are trying to make us look bad when we appoint someone else. But why they'd bother doing that I don't know.

I know this is such an internet thing to say, but I know somebody who knows John McDermott personally

Would he be interested in a move to Utd? McDermott not your acquaintance

Last I knew was that United offered him a job back in like October/November time and he turned it down. Don't know if the thing in the paper now is fresh news or if they just caught on to United wanting him a few months late and don't realize he already rejected us.

If the guy is happy living in London / the South, is given huge credit by the club for what he's achieved and most likely a decent salary, we won't have a chance. For all we know his kids are in a school they love and he doesn't want to uproot his family too. But IF the club is trying to do it and the story is true, it's good to know they've finally come to terms the academy needs a revamp and are looking at ways to do it.

Let's take their manager and striker while we're at it. We can leave their greatest fan there.

It would be a huge move but on the other hand it's a once in a lifetime opportunity and he has to consider whether he's ambitious enough. Pochetinno won't be around Spurs forever and they could, in the strange world of football, be reunited at Utd anyway

The arrogance of the last comment...

 

[dk-yid]

United fans on the prospect of them getting McDermott
















The arrogance of the last comment...

Par for the course with those twats.
..

 

[idontgetit]

Well you do have a point there but if we're so great and they're so bad we should be able to deal with it but we didn't.
As has been said repeatedly by others, teams keep playing right into their hands. Its mind boggling really.
Imo, and said this to my bro last night, it seems a hell of a lot of teams right now have a plan A and thats it.
They set their stall out, we play this way, and thats it. If it doesn't work they're fked.
As most teams play 1 up front, possesion based, slow sideways backwards high line keep ball football they just cant deal with a fast counter attacking team.
Frustrating as months later teams, inc us, are still pushing up to the half way line giving Leicester half the pitch to run into and are still taking so long to get forward that Leicester have 11 men behind the ball by the time we've done our 93 sideways backwards passes (obviously I don't think we play that bad and can play some lovely fast stuff but every now and then we do go back to AVB territory. See 20min into fa cup game, Toby to Wimmer, to Toby... to Wimmer, to Toby, to Wimmer to .... Toby, hoof lol).
I remember under AVB my 70 yr old dad saying this slow possession football is shit. If a team went 442 with pace and went at these teams they wouldn't know what had fkin hit them.
Well now we know.
Its a bit like when the CL teams got a fkin shock when we bowled up and just went for the jugular.
No, no you cant do that, this is the CL. You need to keep the ball and hope you can work an opening and if you're lucky youll get a chance before the end. Like watching a game of chess not football.
Fk that. Two lightening wingers, cross the ball in, goal. 3 passes and job done lol. Pulled teams all over the place with Lennon and Bale. You can't double up on 2 fast as fk wingers. I'm a football dinosaur lol. Just run around a bit lol.
That said we were bloody unlucky not to win but it keeps happening and if teams aren't going to change to deal with how Leicester play then Leicester will keep winning.
I think if we'd had another out and out striker just to mix it up with 20min to go we would have won but we'll never know.

Great post. How though do you play against a team that defends deep with organised banks of four on the edge of their box and then counters super fast and aggressively with decent players? I argued before that a big fucker up front like Benteke is the answer, because it just makes it so uncomfortable for them defending all the balls that will come in to the box if you sit deep. Got a load of neg for that as people obviously didn't agree

 

[jari17]

we've never beaten a team managed by Ranieri

That's embarrassing. This manager lost to Faroe Islands twice.

 

[CJMurray]

That's embarrassing. This manager lost to Faroe Islands twice.

Fucking hell, have you ever got anything positive to say?

 

[Sweech]

Fucking hell, have you ever got anything positive to say?

Convinced he's just a really good troll.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Fucking hell, have you ever got anything positive to say?

Goodbye?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

That's embarrassing. This manager lost to Faroe Islands twice.

He's also won the Copa Del Rey, and the UEFA Super Cup, both with Valencia.

Great point though

 

[kitchen]

Great post. How though do you play against a team that defends deep with organised banks of four on the edge of their box and then counters super fast and aggressively with decent players? I argued before that a big fucker up front like Benteke is the answer, because it just makes it so uncomfortable for them defending all the balls that will come in to the box if you sit deep. Got a load of neg for that as people obviously didn't agree

How do you beat parked buses? Width. You need real quality from the fullbacks making overlapping runs (particularly in our system with inverted wingers) and you need to get in behind them.

Unfortunately it takes real footballing quality to break down a well organised team with two banks of four, but it takes far less quality to defend like that and counter. You just need pace, directness and hustle. Hence Leicester are where they are.

 

[ilikeost]

They're the things that are normally under my posts

There you go.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

There you go.

Thank you

 

[Sweech]

How do you beat parked buses? Width. You need real quality from the fullbacks making overlapping runs (particularly in our system with inverted wingers) and you need to get in behind them.

Unfortunately it takes real footballing quality to break down a well organised team with two banks of four, but it takes far less quality to defend like that and counter. You just need pace, directness and hustle. Hence Leicester are where they are.

Ugh, the common "width" idea. You only ever hear this in England. I don't understand the English fascination with the idea, it's not like they can even give examples of it being true.

To highlight why it's not true, width gets you a cross into a box, crosses aren't high percentage plays and they're even less high percentage when the other team is packing the box full of players as they are when they park the bus.

 

[beats1]

Ugh, the common "width" idea. You only ever hear this in England. I don't understand the English fascination with the idea, it's not like they can even give examples of it being true.

To highlight why it's not true, width gets you a cross into a box, crosses aren't high percentage plays and they're even less high percentage when the other team is packing the box full of players as they are when they park the bus.

You don't, you hear a lot in spain as well which is why the fullbacks there are often former academy wingers

 

[Sweech]

You don't, you hear a lot in spain as well which is why the fullbacks there are often former academy wingers

Is it by Spanish commentators or English? That's the big clue right there.

Obviously width is good, but width is not some kind of grade A way to break down bus parking teams.

 

[kitchen]

Ugh, the common "width" idea. You only ever hear this in England. I don't understand the English fascination with the idea, it's not like they can even give examples of it being true.

To highlight why it's not true, width gets you a cross into a box, crosses aren't high percentage plays and they're even less high percentage when the other team is packing the box full of players as they are when they park the bus.

It doesn't create low percentage plays. If a winger can get in behind (and the key is getting in behind) to cross or have the option of a pull back that's a very high percentage play.

The closer the wideman gets to goal whilst hugging the chalk the higher the percentage obviously. Once a player is in the box full stop there's a chance of a penalty or other options.

 

[beats1]

Is it by Spanish commentators or English? That's the big clue right there.

Obviously width is good, but width is not some kind of grade A way to break down bus parking teams.

By Spanish people and commentators

As I said its one of the reasons why so many spanish teams play former wingers as fullbacks. You only have to look at Barca's latest signing to find that he has spent the 95% of his career as a RW in la liga and segunda

 

[Sweech]

It doesn't create low percentage plays. If a winger can get in behind (and the key is getting in behind) to cross or have the option of a pull back that's a very high percentage play.

The closer the wideman gets to goal whilst hugging the chalk the higher the percentage obviously. Once a player is in the box full stop there's a chance of a penalty or other options.

Yeah, the key being "get behind" is going to be very difficult when the aim of parking the bus is staying "behind the ball".