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FITZ

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Liverpool? If they finish above us it will be the second time in 10 years. Id love to know the net spend of both teams over that time.

That last year is slipping down. It’s been four seasons in a row we’ve been above them. Still think we will finish above them this season...
 

Matthew Wyatt

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I don't think anything you have said refutes what I'm saying.

It's clear - spending money doesn't guarantee success, teams can spend money badly and we have done very well to be where we are given our budget.

Teams that are serious about winning things go out and get the players they think will improve them in positions where they are weak.

We do not do that - we either sign no one or we sign players that are available who we think are good value.

When City needed new fullbacks and GK - they signed Walker, Mendy, Danilo and Ederson.

Whe Liverpool needed a CB and GK they signed Van Dijk and Allison.

When we needed a CB and striker we signed Saha and Nelsen back in the day and this summer when we needed a CM to replace Dembele/Wanyama and a CF to replace Llorente we signed nobody.

Now I understand the stadium etc restricts us and sets out ambition - but you can't sit here and deny that the former two clearly seek to improve with the aim of winning things where as we mend, make-do and hope. Now I'm not moaning about that - I hope more than anything that it works out I'm just making the point that Liverpool and City are actively seeking to win things whereas we are not...the fact that Liverpool finished below us in the last few years doesn't change that.
Wow, how can you have made it to 30 with no understanding of finances? I can only assume you live in your parents’ basement.
 

buttons

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Just turned on talkSPORT - ‘spurs sneak lucky 1-0 v Inter whilst Liverpool unlucky to lose 2-1 to a very very good PSG side’ LOL
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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Just turned on talkSPORT - ‘spurs sneak lucky 1-0 v Inter whilst Liverpool unlucky to lose 2-1 to a very very good PSG side’ LOL

That's unlucky alright - Lost a straight 5 CL away games in a row (including the Final and Semi Final last year)
 

luRRka

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Liverpool? If they finish above us it will be the second time in 10 years. Id love to know the net spend of both teams over that time.
Since 08/09 according to transfermarkt liverpool have a net spend of +£322.68m while spurs have +£73.38m. Not taking into account their ridiculous wages compared to ours
 

DJS

A hoonter must hoont
Dec 9, 2006
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OBD



Obsessive bindipping disorder :cautious:

I have heard you can catch it just by watching Gillette soccer Saturday or match of the day with the volume up
It's a epidemic in Liverpool
Sadly there is no known cure :sick:

Spot on lol!

The soccer Saturday team have far too much of a Liverpool / Arsenal bias, they need to freshen them up.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Savage (who normally annoys the fucking fuck out of me) said something sensible last night.
I didn't see the full coverage as I was at the game, but heard him talking about a feeling that the team selection was a bit odd last night followed by "but that shows pochettino knows what he's doing and that's why he get's paid big bucks to do it"

When you think how often the media and pundits will say something like "Tottenham have a small squad, how will they cope with Chelsea, Inter and Arsenal in a week"
Then they moan when the squad is rotated.
It makes a change that one of them says it how it is.
 

JCRD

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Savage (who normally annoys the fucking fuck out of me) said something sensible last night.
I didn't see the full coverage as I was at the game, but heard him talking about a feeling that the team selection was a bit odd last night followed by "but that shows pochettino knows what he's doing and that's why he get's paid big bucks to do it"

When you think how often the media and pundits will say something like "Tottenham have a small squad, how will they cope with Chelsea, Inter and Arsenal in a week"
Then they moan when the squad is rotated.
It makes a change that one of them says it how it is.

I cant tell what Poch was intending to do but I still think we should have started with our best team which would have given us a better chance to win the game in the first hour then rest up in the last half hour. Maybe its because I fuckin hate nerves and well lets be honest, it gets nervy watching it.

Thats just what I would have done because I think its much tougher to go for it in the last half hour given it leaves us much more open and they did have one or two chances towards the end.

In regards to pundits, I think people are getting too easily wound up and sensitive over what they say. We get a great deal of favourable comments about us. Im think Jenas, Bellamy seems to want to suck Poch off, Neville is another... we get a great deal of good chat. They are also right to say we havent won anything, we do need to win something but id take top four and being an established CL team than win a league cup - thats just me though.
 

mickdale

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I cant tell what Poch was intending to do but I still think we should have started with our best team which would have given us a better chance to win the game in the first hour then rest up .
I take it you haven’t heard Poch comments regarding the squad, players and the amount of games we have coming up.....
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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I cant tell what Poch was intending to do but I still think we should have started with our best team which would have given us a better chance to win the game in the first hour then rest up in the last half hour. Maybe its because I fuckin hate nerves and well lets be honest, it gets nervy watching it.

Thats just what I would have done because I think its much tougher to go for it in the last half hour given it leaves us much more open and they did have one or two chances towards the end.

In regards to pundits, I think people are getting too easily wound up and sensitive over what they say. We get a great deal of favourable comments about us. Im think Jenas, Bellamy seems to want to suck Poch off, Neville is another... we get a great deal of good chat. They are also right to say we havent won anything, we do need to win something but id take top four and being an established CL team than win a league cup - thats just me though.

Depends how you look at it.
Are Lamela and Moura worse players than Eriksen and Son?
I think the pundits all have this idea that we only have 11 good players but we're proving them massively wrong but consistently winning games despite significant injuries and still swapping things up.

I know we only scored after Eriksen and Son came on, but we had enough chances in the first half to have buried it.
There's also the small matter of fitness and fatigue which none of us know about. I was of the opinion we should start the strongest 11 we could. I suspect that's what he did. Eriksen hadn't played 90 minutes for a while before Chelsea so probably felt it. Son played at 100 mph on Saturday, he must have had blisters everywhere. I'm not sure Dier would have been much of a benefit against Inter when we needed to win at any costs. The only other change, Vertonghen for Foyth was forced.
 

jezz

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Aug 21, 2013
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Depends how you look at it.
Are Lamela and Moura worse players than Eriksen and Son?
I think the pundits all have this idea that we only have 11 good players but we're proving them massively wrong but consistently winning games despite significant injuries and still swapping things up.

I know we only scored after Eriksen and Son came on, but we had enough chances in the first half to have buried it.
There's also the small matter of fitness and fatigue which none of us know about. I was of the opinion we should start the strongest 11 we could. I suspect that's what he did. Eriksen hadn't played 90 minutes for a while before Chelsea so probably felt it. Son played at 100 mph on Saturday, he must have had blisters everywhere. I'm not sure Dier would have been much of a benefit against Inter when we needed to win at any costs. The only other change, Vertonghen for Foyth was forced.
I think people forget the international break and who played.
Eriksen who has only just returned from injury played in the international break then Chelsea.
If he'd played 90 minutes and got injured against inter fans would be going mental.
Our start to the season has seen us with a record points haul with Moura and Lamela playing huge part in that.
Beating Chelsea in style was fantastic and I would keep the same team to face Arse but inter came as bus parkers needing a point.
Poch get it spot on we dominated the game and got the result we needed.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I cant tell what Poch was intending to do but I still think we should have started with our best team which would have given us a better chance to win the game in the first hour then rest up in the last half hour. Maybe its because I fuckin hate nerves and well lets be honest, it gets nervy watching it.

Thats just what I would have done because I think its much tougher to go for it in the last half hour given it leaves us much more open and they did have one or two chances towards the end.

In regards to pundits, I think people are getting too easily wound up and sensitive over what they say. We get a great deal of favourable comments about us. Im think Jenas, Bellamy seems to want to suck Poch off, Neville is another... we get a great deal of good chat. They are also right to say we havent won anything, we do need to win something but id take top four and being an established CL team than win a league cup - thats just me though.

Think it's the other way round, bringing good players off the bench in a tight game for the last 25 mins or so normally pays dividens as players normally tire mentally and physically towards the end of the match.

Hard to criticise Poch though, he is managing the squad the right way and is trying to utilise the squad the best of his ability/knowledge and IMO he's doing a stellar job.
 

JCRD

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Think it's the other way round, bringing good players off the bench in a tight game for the last 25 mins or so normally pays dividens as players normally tire mentally and physically towards the end of the match.

Hard to criticise Poch though, he is managing the squad the right way and is trying to utilise the squad the best of his ability/knowledge and IMO he's doing a stellar job.

Maybe im just thinking its riskier then again im only watching so I am naturally more nervous. Yesterday was nervy lets be honest.
 

JCRD

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Depends how you look at it.
Are Lamela and Moura worse players than Eriksen and Son?
I think the pundits all have this idea that we only have 11 good players but we're proving them massively wrong but consistently winning games despite significant injuries and still swapping things up.

I know we only scored after Eriksen and Son came on, but we had enough chances in the first half to have buried it.
There's also the small matter of fitness and fatigue which none of us know about. I was of the opinion we should start the strongest 11 we could. I suspect that's what he did. Eriksen hadn't played 90 minutes for a while before Chelsea so probably felt it. Son played at 100 mph on Saturday, he must have had blisters everywhere. I'm not sure Dier would have been much of a benefit against Inter when we needed to win at any costs. The only other change, Vertonghen for Foyth was forced.

Lamela and Moura are 'worse' players or rather less effective. I love Moura but id go for the players in form in which case that would have been Son and Eriksen. There would have been no guarantees we would have scored but the momentum from the Chelsea game shouldnt be understated.

I agree with fitness, which like you say we know not a lot about, but im going on the basis of the info we have to hand and it seems like they are fit. Lets not forget, Son and Eriksen havent played much recently partly due to injuries so i would hazard a guess theyre relatively fit.

Anyways as mentioned, maybe because I was like really nervous as the game dragged on that im now thinking this way. I think Eriksen is integral to our game and that was evident when he came on. Lamela I do rate but when he plays we dont really keep the ball al that well.
 

vuzp

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they say about our best 11, yes after the Chelsea game that looked like our best 11 but before that when did Son last score and Eriksen was looking very tired and short on ideas and some people saying he needed to be dropped, were as Lamela and Moura have been scoring regularly, its just great how things are working out at the moment and long may it continue. COYS
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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Liverpool? If they finish above us it will be the second time in 10 years. Id love to know the net spend of both teams over that time.

Theirs will not be as bad as you think as they have recouped a lot through sales ... Suarez and Coutinho alone made them £200M.
 

spids

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they say about our best 11, yes after the Chelsea game that looked like our best 11 but before that when did Son last score and Eriksen was looking very tired and short on ideas and some people saying he needed to be dropped, were as Lamela and Moura have been scoring regularly, its just great how things are working out at the moment and long may it continue. COYS

It's about form and fitness (and why yuo need a deep squad). Eriksen and Son both had crazy summers and no real pre-season. Eriksen then had a persistent abdominal injury,a nd Son the Asian games. By comparison, Moura and Lamela (and Sissoko) had nice summers, a full pre-season and were used fairly sparingly last year, so were very fresh.

Ultimately it is about player management and Poch and his team (especially Jesus) are properly on top of it. We are very lucky.
 
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