What the pundits & media are saying about us

[DJS]

That is classic revisionism. We were categorically not 'in great form'. Most of our games were turgid affairs when we showed absolutely no idea of how to attack. The emphasis was on 'the defensive structure' and the forwards had to somehow get goals by improvising. There was absolutely no hint last season - before or after the lockdown - that we would play the way we have so far this season.

I dunno about that, the Leicester game for example we counter-attacked them to death and many on here were quite happy with the performance.

 

[Trix]

Are they both fucking mental? Saying they never thought about Tottenham being top four contenders. Suggesting it would be somehow exciting for someone surprising to win the league, like they already forgot Leicester. Absolute crap. Don’t know how they are even employed to speak about stuff they obviously have no intelligence or knowledge about, outside of their own favourite teams.

Most of them made their predictions before the season started. Transfer window going on until October has changed the landscape imo.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Last night the one thing I didn't like was when Carragher said Liverpool and Man.City would look to Son to replace Salah, Mane, Sterling etc, we are right now in terms of squad depth, infrastructure and level of manager pretty much their equal and we are above Man.City in the table and 2pts off Liverpool why are they treating us as if we are some feeder club still.

But then after that they did pretty much both alude to the fact that this is a strange season, it is early days but Spurs are now in both of their top 4 thoughts and "lets see what happens" as in there is a chance Spurs could win the league but I don't want to say it and look stupid kind of thing.

I'm not saying we will win it but the way this season is going so far, right now i'd say many teams 'could' win it.

But we will have a much clearer picture come xmas time etc.

 

[Col_M]

Last night the one thing I didn't like was when Carragher said Liverpool and Man.City would look to Son to replace Salah, Mane, Sterling etc, we are right now in terms of squad depth, infrastructure and level of manager pretty much their equad and we are above Man.City in the table and 2pts off Liverpool why are they treating us as if we are some feeder club still.

But then after that they did pretty much both alude to the fact that this is a strange season, it is early days but Spurs are now in both of their top 4 thoughts and "lets see what happens" as in there is a chance Spurs could win the league but I don't want to say it and look stupid kind of thing.

I'm not saying we will win it but the way this season is going so far, right now i'd say many teams 'could' win it.

But we will have a much clearer picture come xmas time etc.

I think you misinterpreted him. He said, if Liverpool didn't have Mane, would they want Son. Yes, they would. He was highlighting what an important player Son is

 

[Trix]

Last night the one thing I didn't like was when Carragher said Liverpool and Man.City would look to Son to replace Salah, Mane, Sterling etc, we are right now in terms of squad depth, infrastructure and level of manager pretty much their equad and we are above Man.City in the table and 2pts off Liverpool why are they treating us as if we are some feeder club still.

But then after that they did pretty much both alude to the fact that this is a strange season, it is early days but Spurs are now in both of their top 4 thoughts and "lets see what happens" as in there is a chance Spurs could win the league but I don't want to say it and look stupid kind of thing.

I'm not saying we will win it but the way this season is going so far, right now i'd say many teams 'could' win it.

But we will have a much clearer picture come xmas time etc.

Problem is you're thinking this through as a Spurs fan. Until we start picking up silverware we will always be a club where our players are touted to go elsewhere.

I also think JC was using that as a comparison to where Son is as a player. Not ttring to push him to another club.

 

[Shadydan]

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I think you misinterpreted him. He said, if Liverpool didn't have Mane, would they want Son. Yes, they would. He was highlighting what an important player Son is

To be fair mate I can barely understand him at the best of times so quite possibly

 

[Shadydan]

 

[VegasII]

I had no idea that John Hartson failed a medical to join Spurs when Graham was manager. He mentioned it on Jim ‘mates with everyone’ White’s show on talksport earlier.

He did. I think we were supposed to sign him from Wimbledon iirc.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

That was an atrocious listen I got two minutes in before I had to turn off. How do people listen to that shit.

 

[SpursFox]

Might as well stick this in here.

Some reasonable comments here, but some buffoonery. 'Tottenham won't win the league because they haven't before'. Well must be only talking about the Prem there of course, and pretty sure that applied to last season's winners this time last year, and do I really need to say the word Leicester? Also still such a hesitancy to talk about us in the title contender conversation as if it's an alien notion to them. I think some forget how over a two season period we were the best team in the league, and not just from a biased Spurs perspective, from '15 -'17. Sure, mention the potential weak mentality and lack of ability to win when it really counts if you must (though this can at least be somewhat argued against) but don't pretend we haven't been in and around the conversation in recent history. It's the same as pundits prediction us to finish outside the top 4, somewhat understandable this summer (though there was evidence to the contrary) but aside from maybe the year that followed us finishing 2nd, most people had us finishing 5th or 6th despite us starting to be top 4 regulars. They just can't accept that we have disrupted the supposed rightful order of things.

 

[VegasII]

 

[Locotoro]

That is classic revisionism. We were categorically not 'in great form'. Most of our games were turgid affairs when we showed absolutely no idea of how to attack. The emphasis was on 'the defensive structure' and the forwards had to somehow get goals by improvising. There was absolutely no hint last season - before or after the lockdown - that we would play the way we have so far this season.

With respect, speak for yourself.

Some of us where saying after lockdown that there were the seeds of something growing. Most people thought what you thought

 

[rossdapep]

With respect, speak for yourself.

Some of us where saying after lockdown that there were the seeds of something growing. Most people thought what you thought

Yep many of us could see little signs.

I think too many people spent too much focusing on what United fans and stupid journos had said about Jose and at the first sign of problems or after a bad performance went straight to that narrative.

It was clearly going to take time to sort out a team that had badly regressed and was in need of major surgery.

Last season Jose was managing issues right, left and centre but you could see that he was improving some aspects and he was always going to be the best person to identify what the club needs in terms of recruitment to get us challenging. I always felt that.

 

[Beni]

Except that since lockdown last season we only lost one game, drew two and won the rest. We were in great form and anyone who saw us could see something was building. The pundits were too busy praising arteta and Lampard, or fernandes and his penalty taking to give us a chance. Yet look at all three of those clubs so far this season and they’ve all been a bit flat. As Mourinho says, we don’t get enough respect.

Premier league table since post lockdown, from last seasons game and start of this season. (Excluding promoted Teams)

1. Man City - 32pts - GD +30
2. Liverpool - 30pts - GD +8
3. Tottenham - 29pts - GD +15
4. Man Utd - 28pts - GD +13

5. Southampton - 28pts - GD +9
6. Chelsea - 27pts - GD +7
7. Wolves - 26pts - GD +2
8. Arsenal - 25pts - GD +5
9. Everton - 25pts - GD +2
10. Aston V - 22pts - GD +3
11. Leicester - 21pts - GD +1
12. West Ham - 20pts - GD +6
13. Newcastle - 17pts - GD -6
14. Brighton - 17pts - GD -9
15. Burnley - 16pts - GD -7
16. Crystal Palace - 14pts - GD -14
17. Sheffield Utd - 12pts - GD -11

 

[daveduvet]

I liked Nevilles logic of 'Spurs wont win it because they haven't done it before.'
Had Man City won it before they won it?
Had Liverpool won it before they won it?
Had Leicester won it before they won it?
Had Chelsea won it before they won it?

Illogical Captain.

 

[spud]

With respect, speak for yourself.

Who the fuck did you think I was speaking for?

 

[spursfan77]

That is classic revisionism. We were categorically not 'in great form'. Most of our games were turgid affairs when we showed absolutely no idea of how to attack. The emphasis was on 'the defensive structure' and the forwards had to somehow get goals by improvising. There was absolutely no hint last season - before or after the lockdown - that we would play the way we have so far this season.

Great form means winning games in my mind. We were winning games.

 

[Locotoro]

Who the fuck did you think I was speaking for?

"There was absolutely no hint last season - before or after the lockdown - that we would play the way we have so far this season"

Your post which contains the above quote is an objective statement of fact rather than your subjective opinion.

But no, that's not a fact it's your opinion and it's not shared by everyone. Clearly there were hints of improvement even if you couldn't discern them.

That's who the fuck your post implied you were talking for.

 

[Wadec]

Personally don't care what the media and pundits think. We had a long spell under Poch where both media and pundits sang our praises non stop, still had nothing to show for it.

I want them to keep pouring salt on our chances, I can imagine Jose doing one of him pre match meetings playing it to the boys. We know he listens and uses the media as he has referenced both 'Kane not scoring much under him' by Merson and commented 'imagine how many we would have scored with an attacking coach' after the United game.

Think Neville is bitter about us due to Jose and Poch not leaving us to go there when he was desperate for it to happen. Really don't mind Carragher (other than the spitting incident) found a lot of respect for his football knowledge over lockdown when he was doing his quizzes with players etc.