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ralvy

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Can’t help but feel this is incredibly optimistic, even naive mate.
Regardless of he Conte effect, we would be weaker without Kane, I dont see how anyone can argue otherwise....and if we’re weaker we wouldn’t be in with a shout of CL, that’s my point.

It depends. In the scenario in which we lost him because of an injury, then you're most certainly correct (but even under such circumstances, we managed to reach a CL final not so long ago by knocking out non other than all might Man City). But in the scenario in which we had to sell him, then who knows really, since that also means we most likely would have replaced him with at least one very talented player.

In any case, I think it's totally wrong to call us a one man team. Pep dared to call us that about 5 or 6 years ago, and we have been shoving that down his throat ever since. Don't make the same mistake he did, it's really not wise.
 

Nice One Cyril

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I mean… where to start on this?
I suppose it’s a fair point to make apart from the fact that we reached the champions league final without him.

would he have made this point if Arsenal had beaten palace? I doubt it.
he’d have been all nicey nicey and said “he’s good- not world class but good”

@CoopsieDeadpool whats the word im looking for here?
****?
 

JCRD

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I assume it would have been that bloke who is now at Juve? As good as he looks, would you back him or anyone else to come in and do what Kane is putting up in goals, assists and all-round play? If it had been two or three, which I agree is probably what we will need to replace him when that day comes, that's even more of a risk. Would we have identified the right players? Would they come? Would they settle? How long? Etc.

If we had Conte? who knows... as we would play to the players strengths,. We certainly wouldnt be as good because Kane is kinda irreplaceable but we would then have a different set up and w ewould have players who would do more to contribute. The whole dynamic changes.

I agree we wouldnt be as good but we then have to take the best players out of all the other teams - why should we only take out Kane... im digressing to Mersons point but if Kane was injured i could see Bergwijn doing alright right up top and posing a different problem.
 

ShelfWatcher

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Kane is the greatest English striker of his generation and arguably of the last 50 years, and we got him for free. That's a result ?
 

Gb160

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In any case, I think it's totally wrong to call us a one man team. Pep dared to call us that about 5 or 6 years ago, and we have been shoving that down his throat ever since. Don't make the same mistake he did, it's really not wise.
Just because we seem to have their number recently, you’re delusional if you think we’re even on their level mate.
 

Serpico

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No such thing as a one man team, utter. Bollocks.

No player is bigger than the club.

You could argue Kane represses Son. Son would be as good a forward as kane if played in same position, I honestly believe that. At this stage we would miss a few players if missing.
 

Mark_147

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I don’t dispute that mate, but he’s been unbelievable since he’s got going.
Yeah but Kane only scored 1 goal in our 1st 15 games and had 1 assist yet we sit 4th. The season didn't start when Kane got going.
 

ajspurs

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I just think it's very bitter and lazy from Merson to be honest. Can't really be bothered to dissect it but the way in which he's trying to make his point really sounds like that mate who just wants to bring up anything to shit on Spurs to win an argument, whether it's relevant or not. The "how many trophies have you won" type.
 

Gb160

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Yeah but Kane only scored 1 goal in our 1st 15 games and had 1 assist yet we sit 4th. The season didn't start when Kane got going.
Mate you’re entitled to believe that we’d be fine without Kane.
I’m entitled to believe that’s mental.
 

Thenewcat

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No such thing as a one man team, utter. Bollocks.

No player is bigger than the club.

You could argue Kane represses Son. Son would be as good a forward as kane if played in same position, I honestly believe that. At this stage we would miss a few players if missing.
Mate I love Sonny, but that last paragraph is complete, total, unadulterated bollocks
 

Mark_147

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Mate you’re entitled to believe that we’d be fine without Kane.
I’m entitled to believe that’s mental.
I didn't say we'd be ok without Kane I'm saying Merson is talking shit. It's pretty obvious we get more points with kane than without. Take Saka out of Arsenal they wouldn't have 54pts. Take partey out same again so it's a pathetic point from a pathetic pundit.
 

CantSmileWithoutYou

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No such thing as a one man team, utter. Bollocks.

No player is bigger than the club.

You could argue Kane represses Son. Son would be as good a forward as kane if played in same position, I honestly believe that. At this stage we would miss a few players if missing.

Mate I love Sonny, but that last paragraph is complete, total, unadulterated bollocks
Don't be so fucking stupid @Serpico

Kane is a not a once in a generation player, he's a once in a lifetime time player. He's more likely to carry players than repress them.

Tut tut....
 

Yantino

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To suggest that we are not weaker or reliant on Kane at the moment to play the way we are is, in my own humble opinion, ludicrous.

He is integral to almost everything good we do.
 

JCRD

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To suggest that we are not weaker or reliant on Kane at the moment to play the way we are is, in my own humble opinion, ludicrous.

He is integral to almost everything good we do.


Only in the same way that Liverpool are reliant on VVD, or PSG reliant on Mbappe or Bayern reliant on Lewandowski ... all these teams would be weaker as we would without Kane. But its a nonsense argument to begin with(not you but just generally) because those players have got to play somewhere I mean are we just eliminating these players from football? and isnt that the point of having good players so you can rely on them? all teams will look reliant on a particular player because your tactics are based around that reliance.

The fact of the matter is without Dier we are also weaker as we have seen and experienced. We rely on him to coordinate that defence and play out from the back.
 

spud

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Mate you’re entitled to believe that we’d be fine without Kane.
I’m entitled to believe that’s mental.
You're both right and wrong.

Of course we would be weaker without Kane. He's a world-class player and our attacking system revolves around him. We were weaker when Hoddle left; and Waddle; and Gazza. Yet we got by (okay we were shit post-Gazza, but that was board mismanagement).

If Kane goes, he will be replaced. Almost certainly by a worse player, who will still contribute but in a different way. We will adapt. We'll be fine.

Probably.
 

isaac94

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No such thing as a one man team, utter. Bollocks.

No player is bigger than the club.

You could argue Kane represses Son. Son would be as good a forward as kane if played in same position, I honestly believe that. At this stage we would miss a few players if missing.
son cany play harrys game like harry cant play son, to say he would be just as good is crazy, son cant drop deep and perform harrys passing range
 

Serpico

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son cany play harrys game like harry cant play son, to say he would be just as good is crazy, son cant drop deep and perform harrys passing range
No one is saying they mimic each others game. Son given the responsibility of being our main forward would not let us down and give us a return as good IMO. Its a team game and Kanes best is brought out by other players as much as they are excellant becuse of him. NewUtd was an excellent team performance with individuals stepping up not just Kane.

For me, Kane is only as good as the team around him. So we are not a one man team. A tennis player is a one man team.
 

ralvy

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Jun 26, 2012
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Just because we seem to have their number recently, you’re delusional if you think we’re even on their level mate.

Uhmmm, I never said we were or are on their level, what I said is that we have shown Pep quite a few times already we're not the Harry Kane team, as he referred to us publicly once.
 

ardiles

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It’s not just Kane though. If just one of these players are missing for our remaining matches then I’d be less positive of getting top four - Lloris, Dier, Romero, Son, Bentancur, Kulusevski.

Everyone of those players have, in one way or another, helped the team collectively, in improving our overall performances. The drop off in quality, when any are absent, is quite clear (other then Skipp, possibly Bergwijn and arguably Moura).
 
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