spursgirls
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And that he didn't now if Spurs would finish above Arsenal. Though I think his point was that all the top teams have improved, well apart from Chelsea, and it's very tight at the top.
What the pundits & media are saying about us
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floydiohead
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He, amongst others on there, is why I cancelled my sky subscription about 6 years ago and have never looked back.
danielneeds
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He’s entitled to his opinion really. Until we actually deliver and get across the line people like him will always doubt us
THE SPURSBOY
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Merson is a chelsea fan and ex arse player he’s obv gonna put us down
Rogmeister
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Of course he is but mocking us if we celebrate 3rd. I think most gooners would sell their mothers for that
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What I don’t understand with these pundits is this ‘not won anything’ drum they consistently bang.
Given the ridiculous wealth that has been pumped into Chelsea and Manchester City over the past 20 years, you basically need at least 2 of the richest clubs to be going through a transitional period - even if you have a great squad and manager - to win a major trophy in England.
As such, why can’t your finishing position be seen as an achievement? I personally would value finishing 2nd or 3rd as a better achievement than winning the Carabao Cup, for example.
I get that a lot of these pundits played in an era where the FA Cup was really important and - on balance - there were probably a bigger range of winners of domestic silverware but this is not the reality today.
Since Man Utd last won the league - Leicester aside, which was a total freak that will likely never happen again (and also a very rare season where 4 top clubs were in transition) - City have won it 5 times, Chelsea twice, Liverpool only once.
A club that wants to break in either needs one of those super rare seasons of transition to happen again or to do what Liverpool did and gradually get to that level over a longer period of time, by retaining a top manager and by making pretty much zero mistakes in recruitment.
The Champions League is clearly even harder. Even Man City - with all the disgusting wealth being pumped into them - still haven’t won it. In fact, it’s been won by an English club only 6 times in the 30 or so seasons since the rebrand in 92. Yet, despite that, Spurs got to the final in 2019 which - bar 6 or so teams in the EPL - is an achievement the rest of the clubs in the English football pyramid can only dream of.
Why isn’t that celebrated? Because I guarantee you winning a Carabao Cup would not be enough for them.
Every club in the country wants to win, but the reality is that - in England - the mega rich have that tied up.
Maybe we’ll get there with Conte but these pundits need to be more respectful of how frequently we’ve been punching above our weight in the past 10 years or more.
eddiev14
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Also, not sure if folk here saw the exchange between Jamie Redknapp and Gary Neville after the United loss yesterday. Basically Neville gave Levy credit for the stadium, training ground, hiring Paratici and having a structure.
Redknapp made some fairly bitter sounding comments in response, and was unwilling to give credit to Levy moving the club forward in the past 20 years. Comments like ‘gone through a lot of managers to get there’, ‘haven’t won anything though’ ‘20 years of failure’.
He’s been like this about Levy for a long time - never gives him credit when we do well and is always there to pipe up when we go through a rough patch.
Does he just hate Levy because he sacked Harry, or is it connected to his time as a player with us?
I find it a bit weird.
Redknapp made some fairly bitter sounding comments in response, and was unwilling to give credit to Levy moving the club forward in the past 20 years. Comments like ‘gone through a lot of managers to get there’, ‘haven’t won anything though’ ‘20 years of failure’.
He’s been like this about Levy for a long time - never gives him credit when we do well and is always there to pipe up when we go through a rough patch.
Does he just hate Levy because he sacked Harry, or is it connected to his time as a player with us?
I find it a bit weird.
Locotoro
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Yes, he dislikes Levy for sacking his dad
CantSmileWithoutYou
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Its all about his dad. He's more bitter about it than Harry was. But that's because Harry understands being sacked is part a parcel of being a manager.
Jamie doesn't, because he's a ex injury-prone footballer-cum-now fading pretty boy, who's wife left him, and he's never been manager because he's not tactically aware enough. And he's a prick.
I think Kris Boyd actually wanted to say we’ll push City & Liverpool but backed down. He was speaking very highly of us but kept his powder dry when Merson started being a pub bore.
Locotoro
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You could have just gone with the last 3 words
CantSmileWithoutYou
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No Tyler just doesn't like us. He always like that when we score.
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'Fight, character & depth - how Conte has changed Spurs'
Former Tottenham midfielder Jermaine Jenas says it was important for his old side to show they can play badly and not lose in their draw with Chelsea.
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spud
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Can't stand Peter Drury and his manufactured melodrama and rehearsed alliteration. His commentary is fake and It's all about him.
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Andy Gray.
he is you know!
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There are 2 feeds, one is Alan Parry (Liverpool fan) commentating, who says it. Tyler and Gray similar on the other.
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Conte scraps with Tuchel: 16 Conclusions on a classic between Chelsea and Tottenham
Chelsea showed their best and worst sides. Tottenham, too, really. But the main event between Thomas Tuchel and Antonio Conte was worth it.
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