Where do you think we will finish in 2022/2023?

[fishhhandaricecake]

3rd minimum lol

Why is that lol? ?‍

I said “if we sign an AM, CB and creative CM then 3rd with that squad and manager should be minimum” don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.

 

[shelfboy68]

Why is that lol? ?‍

I said “if we sign an AM, CB and creative CM then 3rd with that squad and manager should be minimum” don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.

And you can see all that coming in lol

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

And you can see all that coming in lol

Are you on the wind up? I don’t get it. I said “if” we get that.

If not then more likely 4th for me with squad as it stands but let’s see. ?‍

Don’t really see what the issue is.

 

[shelfboy68]

Are you on the wind up? I don’t get it. I said “if” we get that.

If not then more likely 4th for me with squad as it stands but let’s see. ?‍

Don’t really see what the issue is.

Mate you have got all arsey because I disagreed with you but it is allowed trust me.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

A lot depends on whether we secure a CAM, but as it stands I think 4th

 

[Zippy1980]

1st behind Scousers and Shitty

 

[Hotspur33]

The way I look at our window is we’ve made two signings who will upgrade Conte’s preferred starting XI.

• LWB: Perisic, who upgrades Sessegnon
• DM: Bissouma, who upgrades Holjberg

Richarlison, Spence, Lenglet add depth. Forster is a second choice keeper so is much of a muchness.

I must admit that I’m slightly underwhelmed by the calibre of some of these players but we did have an issue with depth last season and we probably need a few years of CL football to improve our status amongst Europe’s elite before the top drawer players will decide to abandon ship at their current CL clubs to join us.

I’m undecided on where our squad sees us finish, mainly because the quality of United, Arsenal and Chelsea is such a question mark. With Conte though we can probably get 4th again.

I think this is a nice summery. I'd hve liked a statement signing. Someone of undeniable quality who will elevate us. But as you say, not easy.
I think though, if the best we can do is 4th, I think we will need to win a cup and be prepared to double down and back Conte with even more money next summer.

I think we are capable of being better than 4th. But again, I agree with you, the competition is very u predictable.

 

[Chirpystheman]

With regards to spending the 150m I don't see how it has to be spent by a certain time. Unless we are going to pay transfer fees up front I don't see how it will be spent. I'm also not an accountant but we have spent like 100m before outgoings. So technically the 100m has been spent. We have brought in around 40m before other outgoings and obviously we will sell more. If we bring in Zaniolo we will have then spent 150m approx. If we sell winks lo celso reggie for circa 60m that will be a net spend of 50m. Surely the requirement will have been legally to spend the 150m. But in reality we will have only spent 50m. So I can see how someone can call it a myth.

We spent 87m net 20/21 season and 21/22 season we effectively committed to 95m if you count Romero as obligation to buy (Not including Kulu). So would seem strange after 150m injection, Qualifying for CL and a full season of home fixtures nfl and concerts etc if our net spend was less than the 2 previous seasons. I hope we go on a rampage and win the lot. Just a bit underwhelmed but 1 month to go of the window a lot can happen I suppose.

 

[talbot64]

If we sort out a RB and another attacking player, I would say 3rd.

A lot depends on how well we recover with the champions league on top of the prem and the impact of the world cup

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Aim to win it. I don't care if people think that's unrealistic. Worse teams than we have as a nucleus have done so before so there's no reason to suggest our name can't and shouldn't be mentioned when it comes to a push for 1st.

Top manager, top GK, a top CB, strength in the middle and a front four that is arguably the best in the league. Need a bit of luck along the way but our focus should be on finishing top.

 

[fish5871]

3 rd and fa cup. Have some faith in this squad

 

[SandroClegane]

With regards to spending the 150m I don't see how it has to be spent by a certain time. Unless we are going to pay transfer fees up front I don't see how it will be spent. I'm also not an accountant but we have spent like 100m before outgoings. So technically the 100m has been spent. We have brought in around 40m before other outgoings and obviously we will sell more. If we bring in Zaniolo we will have then spent 150m approx. If we sell winks lo celso reggie for circa 60m that will be a net spend of 50m. Surely the requirement will have been legally to spend the 150m. But in reality we will have only spent 50m. So I can see how someone can call it a myth.

We spent 87m net 20/21 season and 21/22 season we effectively committed to 95m if you count Romero as obligation to buy (Not including Kulu). So would seem strange after 150m injection, Qualifying for CL and a full season of home fixtures nfl and concerts etc if our net spend was less than the 2 previous seasons. I hope we go on a rampage and win the lot. Just a bit underwhelmed but 1 month to go of the window a lot can happen I suppose.

Underwhelmed lol.

Is there anything in your life that brings you joy?

 

[DodgyLasagne]

The way I look at our window is we’ve made two signings who will upgrade Conte’s preferred starting XI.

• LWB: Perisic, who upgrades Sessegnon
• DM: Bissouma, who upgrades Holjberg

Richarlison, Spence, Lenglet add depth. Forster is a second choice keeper so is much of a muchness.

I must admit that I’m slightly underwhelmed by the calibre of some of these players but we did have an issue with depth last season and we probably need a few years of CL football to improve our status amongst Europe’s elite before the top drawer players will decide to abandon ship at their current CL clubs to join us.

I’m undecided on where our squad sees us finish, mainly because the quality of United, Arsenal and Chelsea is such a question mark. With Conte though we can probably get 4th again.

We have raised our ceiling slightly but have also raised our floor a lot. The positive is we should be able to truly challenge in Europe, Cups, and the League and withstand the winter WC/possible injuries. Very important.

the slight negative is that our ceiling remains a couple stories below Liverpool/City and there is, as before, a lack of true world class quality outside of Kane/Son/Cuti.

 

[Chirpystheman]

Underwhelmed lol.

Is there anything in your life that brings you joy?

Loads of things bring me joy following spurs home and away and all over Europe is one of those things. That being said I find it strange that by giving my opinion on our transfer business while not insulting anyone else who may think we have had the best window ever leaves me open for criticism. Life would be boring if everyone agreed on everything. We were led to believe we had upwards of 200m to spend, We have spent £50m and have only acquired one nailed on 1st team upgrade and they were got on a free.

 

[spursfan77]

Our fixtures before the World Cup are difficult. But if we get through those fairly unscathed and also our players come back from the World Cup in good shape then we will be in for a really good season.

We need to hold some transfer funds back for January too. Nobody knows what this World Cup will do to players form and fitness and we might need to splash out somewhat in January. I think that window will be huge for many teams.

 

[sundanceyid10]

I want to win a trophy, FA cup, league cup, I know they are not held in such high regard it seems these days, but it’s what this club badly needs to get over the line in any competition. That will do more for confidence and belief than anything.

I think the ceiling for us in the league is 3rd, that’s just me being honest.

 

[vegassd]

We were led to believe we had upwards of 200m to spend, We have spent £50m and have only acquired one nailed on 1st team upgrade and they were got on a free.

That's not exactly true is it. I think a lot of people end up doing these sorts of back-of-the-napkin maths about our financial situation and work themselves further into whatever opinion they held before hand. Plucking numbers out of the air in terms of transfers is not going to be reflective of the real world scenario.

Whilst Perisic was a "free" transfer I doubt there was no money exchanged. Our wage structure apparently leans heavily on bonuses, so there will be all sorts of CL bonuses paid out. We have only drawn 100m of the commitment from ENIC so far. There are going to be contract obligations coming active this summer - notably with Romero and Reguilon. And we are probably looking at losing a large chunk of money on Ndombele and Lo Celso.

So if you just look at headline numbers for player transfers you will be missing a huge portion of the financial situation that Levy and Paratici are working with. They are operating on the machinery as a whole, and it's a fluid thing where a change in one area can lead to consequences in another.

Like you say, there is time left in the window and more can happen. I think it's wise to wait until the end of the window before feeling deflated by it, and even then it's smart to wait until we see how the team performs before judging. Plenty of people were underwhelmed by January but the effect on our performance was enormous.

I think what we can all agree on is that we wanted to see Conte being backed. We might have individual preferences for player purchases etc. but I reckon we can also all agree that he has been backed so far. To my mind that is more an indication of a successful transfer window than a sum of transfer fees.

 

[Chirpystheman]

That's not exactly true is it. I think a lot of people end up doing these sorts of back-of-the-napkin maths about our financial situation and work themselves further into whatever opinion they held before hand. Plucking numbers out of the air in terms of transfers is not going to be reflective of the real world scenario.

Whilst Perisic was a "free" transfer I doubt there was no money exchanged. Our wage structure apparently leans heavily on bonuses, so there will be all sorts of CL bonuses paid out. We have only drawn 100m of the commitment from ENIC so far. There are going to be contract obligations coming active this summer - notably with Romero and Reguilon. And we are probably looking at losing a large chunk of money on Ndombele and Lo Celso.

So if you just look at headline numbers for player transfers you will be missing a huge portion of the financial situation that Levy and Paratici are working with. They are operating on the machinery as a whole, and it's a fluid thing where a change in one area can lead to consequences in another.

Like you say, there is time left in the window and more can happen. I think it's wise to wait until the end of the window before feeling deflated by it, and even then it's smart to wait until we see how the team performs before judging. Plenty of people were underwhelmed by January but the effect on our performance was enormous.

I think what we can all agree on is that we wanted to see Conte being backed. We might have individual preferences for player purchases etc. but I reckon we can also all agree that he has been backed so far. To my mind that is more an indication of a successful transfer window than a sum of transfer fees.

Yeah I agree with alot of that. What I would also say. Reggie and romero purchases would have been made and budgeted for. It would be poor business practice to make purchases and say well we don't have to start paying for 2 years and when we do we will just increase our share holding and put money in to pay for those transfers. Do agree that there are plenty of hidden costs. However looking at past expenditure it could be educated guess to assume budget would have been increased, Regardless of CL bonuses considering the vast extra income would dwarf such payments.

Also I am of the mind team performance doesn't make this window a success. We all moan about transfer windows where we didn't sign anyone for 18months. We finished 4th and got to CL final. The team was close to success and the season was probably still a successful one to most doesn't make our transfer policy that summer smart or great. Our businessman summer could be deemed poor. Gil loan, sarr loan, gollini sent back, Emerson most want gone. Only Romero from summer business was good business and most would say last season was a success. The two don't go hand in hand. Anyways roll on the weekend and us smashing the saints.

 

[vegassd]

Our businessman summer could be deemed poor. Gil loan, sarr loan, gollini sent back, Emerson most want gone. Only Romero from summer business was good business and most would say last season was a success. The two don't go hand in hand.

Well I think that's a very negative way of looking at last summer and you could argue the merits of each of those individual transfers, not to mention the overall situation and then how January had a seemingly bigger impact on the overall success.

My point about judging on performances is this; we picked up Perisic, Bissouma and Lenglet for a combined 25m. That's peanuts for three players and if we were to judge on spending alone it looks like crap business. But those 3 players might be transformational for our performance. Equally they might not. So to judge on spend alone would be missing a big piece of the puzzle in my view.

Where we finish this season is not solely going to be about this summer, so there isn't a direct correlation in that way. But if we win the title after Perisic and Spence contribute 20GA each and Lenglet wins POTY we can say that it helped! So it's not about how much we spend, it's how we spend it that counts (just my opinion).

Anyways roll on the weekend and us smashing the saints.

Indeed! ?

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Don't mean to be a doomer here but I've no clue how City don't win the title this year. With Haaland they are effectively unstoppable.