Where do you think we will finish in 2022/2023?

[JerryGarcia]

Thus far, no one has even considered Newcastle in the discussion about who will occupy the top 6 places. It all been "usual suspects"

Hmmm.

If they keep their first team fit then they have every chance of being in or around the top six but they could suffer from a thin squad. Definitely one to watch over the next few seasons though and they must be treated as a serious threat because they’re only going to improve with the backing of their new owners.

 

[thehipster]

I think we've got the players and a huge amount of potential.
However, I don't think our tactics have been very good so far this season and, to be honest, I expect more from Conte.
We're not flowing...and that might actually be a result of over-coaching. Who knows?

 

[SPURSLIFE]

If we're comparing 'killer' players in the forward positions, well we already have them - which is probably the reason we didn't sign Jesus as he wouldn't get in our first XI, at least not as a striker.

I wasn't talking about a striker as I accept that we have a front three that is arguably the best in the PREM. I just quoted Nunez and Haaland as killer signings to point out those clubs filling the one position they needed to. What I would like us to buy is a creative MF player that can open up defences with a killer pass, something we haven't had since Eriksen. It would give Kane and Son more opportunities for goals.

 

[C1w8]

Thus far, no one has even considered Newcastle in the discussion about who will occupy the top 6 places. It all been "usual suspects"

Hmmm.

I don't think many people discuss who will finish 6th....rather who will finish 4th.

Might newcastle finish 6th? Quite possibly. Will they challenge tor 4th. Not sure.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I don't think many people discuss who will finish 6th....rather who will finish 4th.

Might newcastle finish 6th? Quite possibly. Will they challenge tor 4th. Not sure.

It's a crap shoot who finishes 6th and who finishes 4th. People are way too precise about this, as if the strength of a squad on paper and the presence of one or two "star" players makes all the difference.

Injuries make some of the difference. Plain chance makes the difference. Refereeing errors tend to even out, but sometimes one of those will make a big difference. Football is complicated and has a major element of chance.

It is as easy for Newcastle to finish 3rd as it is for us to do the same. Our squad is deeper, but they have a really impressive first 11, so if they stay clear of injuries, they could outperform us - and Chelsea, not to mention Man Utd.

The lack of attention paid to Newcastle (and Brighton, who are comparably impressive) is analogous to people asserting that we can't possibly catch Man City or Liverpool because "we were 20+ points behind them last season", as if there were some kind of carry-over from season to season, based on reputation and previous ,performance.

There isn't. It's superstition. What Newcastle and Spurs have in common is that both clubs started last season very badly, under different management or ownership, and that they have an historical reputation for underperformance. None of that affects what happens on the pitch this season. It's just superstition. These are two high quality sides. If they stay injury free and get a fair run of random chance, they could finish 2nd and 3rd.

Or 6th and 7th.

 

[C1w8]

It's a crap shoot who finishes 6th and who finishes 4th. People are way to precise about this, as if the strength of a squad on paper and the presence of one or two "star" players makes all the difference.

Injuries make some of the difference. Plain chance makes the difference. Refereeing errors tend to even out, but sometimes one of those will make a big difference. Football is complicated and has a major element of chance.

It is as easy for Newcastle to finish 3rd as it is for us to do the same. Our squad is deeper, but they have a really impressive first 11, so if they stay clear of injuries, they could outperform us - and Chelsea, not to mention Man Utd.

The lack of attention paid to Newcastle (and Brighton, who are comparably impressive) is analogous to people asserting that we can't possibly catch Man City or Liverpool because "we were 20+ points behind them last season", as if there were some kind of carry-over from season to season, based on reputation and previous ,performance.

There isn't. It's superstition. What Newcastle and Spurs have in common is that both clubs started last season very badly, under different management or ownership, and that they have an historical reputation for underperformance. None of that affects what happens on the pitch this season. It's just superstition. These are two high quality sides. If they stay injury free and get a fair run of random chance, they could finish 2nd and 3rd.

Or 6th and 7th.

I dont disagree with you, all im literally saying is that people tend to talk about who finish top 4 rightly or wrongly, not top 6.

You said why arent ppl talking about newcastle for top 6.

If youre saying that people should be talking about newcastle for top 4 fair enough, but then say that.

 

[dudu]

City dropping points already, Liverpool, Chelsea too.

I think we need a really check and have to accept that there will be very few gimmies this season and that finishing in the top 4 is going to require a massive effort.

The thing that gives me confidence is Conte. He is just a fantastic manager and will improve us as the season goes on.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Poor touch Henderson killed Liverpool there

 

[Joshua shepherd]

It's a crap shoot who finishes 6th and who finishes 4th. People are way to precise about this, as if the strength of a squad on paper and the presence of one or two "star" players makes all the difference.

Injuries make some of the difference. Plain chance makes the difference. Refereeing errors tend to even out, but sometimes one of those will make a big difference. Football is complicated and has a major element of chance.

It is as easy for Newcastle to finish 3rd as it is for us to do the same. Our squad is deeper, but they have a really impressive first 11, so if they stay clear of injuries, they could outperform us - and Chelsea, not to mention Man Utd.

The lack of attention paid to Newcastle (and Brighton, who are comparably impressive) is analogous to people asserting that we can't possibly catch Man City or Liverpool because "we were 20+ points behind them last season", as if there were some kind of carry-over from season to season, based on reputation and previous ,performance.

There isn't. It's superstition. What Newcastle and Spurs have in common is that both clubs started last season very badly, under different management or ownership, and that they have an historical reputation for underperformance. None of that affects what happens on the pitch this season. It's just superstition. These are two high quality sides. If they stay injury free and get a fair run of random chance, they could finish 2nd and 3rd.

Or 6th and 7th.

I think you're overrating Newcastle's starting 11 a bit. They have a decent team, well balanced, and Howe has done a great job with the signings he's made. Despite having the money to try to be extravagant, he's mainly gone for premier league experience which tends to make a massive difference to how quickly you can integrate the new signings.

The problem they will have imo is that they are a little toothless up top, for all their good play ASM and Almiron are not consistent goal scorers and while Wilson can have good days, he's a 1 in 2.5 striker at best. That's without the injury concerns. I don't think Wood suits them really and will mainly be thrown on to see out games.

They also don't have the players on the bench to change a game if they are chasing.

They could finish 6th but I think it's far more likely they finish 7th or 8th and I wouldn't entertain them in the discussion for the top 5.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

Poor touch Henderson killed Liverpool there

It did, however, about 30 seconds before, Liverpool had a chance to break. Elliot had a simple pass to play out wide to either of two players and instead of playing it simple with his left he underhit an outside of the boot pass which was intercepted. I'd blame him as much as anyone for that goal. Absolutely no need to overcomplicate the situation.

 

[MightySpurs]

 

[Adam456]

It's a crap shoot who finishes 6th and who finishes 4th. People are way too precise about this, as if the strength of a squad on paper and the presence of one or two "star" players makes all the difference.

Injuries make some of the difference. Plain chance makes the difference. Refereeing errors tend to even out, but sometimes one of those will make a big difference. Football is complicated and has a major element of chance.

It is as easy for Newcastle to finish 3rd as it is for us to do the same. Our squad is deeper, but they have a really impressive first 11, so if they stay clear of injuries, they could outperform us - and Chelsea, not to mention Man Utd.

The lack of attention paid to Newcastle (and Brighton, who are comparably impressive) is analogous to people asserting that we can't possibly catch Man City or Liverpool because "we were 20+ points behind them last season", as if there were some kind of carry-over from season to season, based on reputation and previous ,performance.

There isn't. It's superstition. What Newcastle and Spurs have in common is that both clubs started last season very badly, under different management or ownership, and that they have an historical reputation for underperformance. None of that affects what happens on the pitch this season. It's just superstition. These are two high quality sides. If they stay injury free and get a fair run of random chance, they could finish 2nd and 3rd.

Or 6th and 7th.

Agree with you in general but then equally you could argue that the final places last season almost exactly mirrored on-paper squad strength. City then Liverpool then Chelsea then us then Arse and then 2 down from them West Ham and Leicester. The only exceptions being Man U finishing probably 1-2 places below where they should have been and perhaps Leicester having a stronger squad than West Ham

But then on your side you could say that the teams that finished 6,7,8 all went quite late in Europe and perhaps that was a big factor in them not challenging higher

 

[Mr Pink]

Not a chance Newcastle's first eleven is as good as ours.

They're a good side but when we get going we're definitely the stronger of the two.

I think our slow start is warping people's opinion a little.

Think we're second in the PL since Xmas.

That's a metric worth acknowledging.

 

[worcestersauce]

I made my prediction and I'm still happy with it, if anything what I've seen from us so far makes me more confident. We are not playing well, we really aren't, we aren't in our groove yet but we are picking up the points. It's only going to get better.

 

[Fredo]

2nd

 

[ero1x]

I reckon we’ll finish 1st… When we signed Conte last November my thoughts at the time was that we’ll now finish in the top four and then win the Prem the following season.
Nothing has happened since to change my personal opinion, I actually wish I’d placed a small bet!

 

[ralvy]

I reckon we’ll finish 1st… When we signed Conte last November my thoughts at the time was that we’ll now finish in the top four and then win the Prem the following season.
Nothing has happened since to change my personal opinion, I actually wish I’d placed a small bet!

I think at the very least we will be challenging for the title. Hopefully we can get it over the line.

 

[bigpalacios]

I reckon we’ll finish 1st… When we signed Conte last November my thoughts at the time was that we’ll now finish in the top four and then win the Prem the following season.
Nothing has happened since to change my personal opinion, I actually wish I’d placed a small bet!

You still can!

 

[bigpalacios]

It's a crap shoot who finishes 6th and who finishes 4th. People are way too precise about this, as if the strength of a squad on paper and the presence of one or two "star" players makes all the difference.

Injuries make some of the difference. Plain chance makes the difference. Refereeing errors tend to even out, but sometimes one of those will make a big difference. Football is complicated and has a major element of chance.

It is as easy for Newcastle to finish 3rd as it is for us to do the same. Our squad is deeper, but they have a really impressive first 11, so if they stay clear of injuries, they could outperform us - and Chelsea, not to mention Man Utd.

The lack of attention paid to Newcastle (and Brighton, who are comparably impressive) is analogous to people asserting that we can't possibly catch Man City or Liverpool because "we were 20+ points behind them last season", as if there were some kind of carry-over from season to season, based on reputation and previous ,performance.

There isn't. It's superstition. What Newcastle and Spurs have in common is that both clubs started last season very badly, under different management or ownership, and that they have an historical reputation for underperformance. None of that affects what happens on the pitch this season. It's just superstition. These are two high quality sides. If they stay injury free and get a fair run of random chance, they could finish 2nd and 3rd.

Or 6th and 7th.

Its not a crap shoot on who finishes 4th and 6th. If it was then any team in the Prem could finish 4th or 6th.

 

[ero1x]

You still can!

Nah, the odds are a lot shorter now