Who benefits and doesn't from a 3-5-2?

[robpalmer135]

With Conte looking all set to be named our manager wanted to go through the squad and see who could excel in a 3-5-2 or 3-4-2-1 system that Conte likes to play?

The full backs are obvious ones. Doherty & Sessegnon for sure better as wing backs and its probably better for Aurier & Regulion as well tbh. Could we see Bergwijn turned in to a wing back simular to what happened with Moses at Chelsea?

Centre Backs could a back 3 see one of Sanchez, Dier, Alderwireld come back to form? Tananga could excel as a RCB and Rodon has the ability to play all 3 roles. Still think we need to strengthen here massively tbh.

Dele is one who I think could really be helped by this. I think his best form for us came as part of a front 2 and in a rotation with Kane & Son we could see him get back to his best.

Moura is someone I could not really see a place for. Lamela is maybe a back up in the front 2 at best but thats not really any different to what he was before.

 

[Spursh]

I think Davies could suit a back three. If any position suits him, it’s probably that left centre back role. Not saying he’s the ideal man for that role in the long-run, but he’d be a useful squad member/rotation option for next season.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Dele is one who I think could really be helped by this. I think his best form for us came as part of a front 2 and in a rotation with Kane & Son we could see him get back to his best.

Can't see that. He does not have the pace to play in Son's role, and I don't see him rotating in for Kane very often.

I don't think he can play the role Eriksen played for Inter - not creative/quick enough. And I don't think he has the industry to play the other CM role.

I could definitely see Dele as one of the outs this summer to finance Conte's targets.

 

[PH936]

I’d hope Japhet would get a chance at CB. Always thought with the right partner, he made a great CB.

Oddly enough, I think Winks would benefit too.

 

[EQP]

So our strongest team, if we don't buy anyone or sell anyone would be

Tanganga - Toby - Rodon
PEH
Aurier - GLC - Ndombele - Reguillon
Kane - Son

With players asking to leave ( Aurier ) and us needing to sell players ( Dier, Sissoko, Winks etc) and buy quality replacements, I would like to see

New CB - Toby - Rodon
Zakaria
New RB - GLC - Ndombele - Reguillon
Kane - Son

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[InOffMeLeftShin]

So our strongest team, if we don't buy anyone or sell anyone would be

Tanganga - Toby - Rodon
PEH
Aurier - GLC - Ndombele - Reguillon
Kane - Son

With players asking to leave ( Aurier ) and us needing to sell players ( Dier, Sissoko, Winks etc) and buy quality replacements, I would like to see

New CB - Toby - Rodon
Zakaria
New RB - GLC - Ndombele - Reguillon
Kane - Son

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Interesting that you've swapped out PEH for Zakaria despite him having a good season (yes he tailed off at the end) but have kept in GLC and Ndombele.

I do think both Ndombele and GLC would be better suited in a midfield 3 so maybe they are ones who would benefit from the change of system but I think both might struggle with the intensity of a Conte team.

 

[Tucker]

I think Reggie and Doherty could be the big winners tbh. Davies might do a job at LCB, but he loses out as far as wing back is concerned.

Getting a proper leader in alongside Rodon and Tanganga at the back could be great.

 

[chrissivad]

I would rather not have Davies in the back 3. He can do a job, but I would rather we replaced him, Sanchez and Dier with some better CB's

Sessegnon could benefit. Gets to be a bit more attacking, him or Reguilon down the left.

I think CM is still a mess, so no idea who will benefit or not. It's just not clicking into place.

 

[EQP]

Interesting that you've swapped out PEH for Zakaria despite him having a good season (yes he tailed off at the end) but have kept in GLC and Ndombele.

I do think both Ndombele and GLC would be better suited in a midfield 3 so maybe they are ones who would benefit from the change of system but I think both might struggle with the intensity of a Conte team.

I rate Zakaria over PEH, as I feel he has a better engine and is stronger defensively. I added GLC and Ndombele to cover the remaining CM options, as Zakaria can help cover for those two more effectively then PEH. Fortunately, GLC does get stuck in, so we wouldn't be ultra-exposed and Tanguy would get less defensive responsibility but would need to make his creative efforts count. Honestly, I haven't watched much of Conte's Inter Milan, so if my descriptions of the roles are off, I'd appreciate any input on what he asks of his CM's.

 

[rossdapep]

I can see Hojbjerg being a casualty.

Conte played Brozovic there and hes technically very good and can make nice triangular patterns of play. Hojbjerg isn't as technically accomplished and whilst he's a decent blocker hes also better at just moving the ball forward and not working angles.

Ndombele's chances have just increased though.

Not sure what it means for Skipp, Conte may be highly impressed with him and use him as the holding role or he may prefer to keep him as back up or even loan him out.

I think all of our CBs are at risk other than Rodon.

I can also see less players coming in. Probably a CF, 2xCBs, RWB, CM as opposed to Poch needing a big refresh.

 

[danielneeds]

Davies as LCB defo. Sessegnon as Reggie’s understudy will probably get games. Doherty will get a chance. I don’t think he looked fit all season after Covid.

 

[Sevens]

Can't see that. He does not have the pace to play in Son's role, and I don't see him rotating in for Kane very often.

I don't think he can play the role Eriksen played for Inter - not creative/quick enough. And I don't think he has the industry to play the other CM role.

I could definitely see Dele as one of the outs this summer to finance Conte's targets.

Alli's best season for us was playing as a False Nine, along side Kane, in a 3-5-2. It was also our best season under Poch, especially in terms of entertaining football.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Alli's best season for us was playing as a False Nine, along side Kane, in a 3-5-2. It was also our best season under Poch, especially in terms of entertaining football.

probably - but he isn't going to be better than Son, and Son is not moving to a wing-back role.

So, that leaves Dele with limited playing options under Conte.

 

[robpalmer135]

Interesting that you've swapped out PEH for Zakaria despite him having a good season (yes he tailed off at the end) but have kept in GLC and Ndombele.

I do think both Ndombele and GLC would be better suited in a midfield 3 so maybe they are ones who would benefit from the change of system but I think both might struggle with the intensity of a Conte team.

Agree with this. PEH has shown he has enough ability with the ball to play the roll as demanded by Conte and if he does not we have a player in Skipp that looks ready. I would like to see that money invested in a more attach minded No.8

 

[robpalmer135]

probably - but he isn't going to be better than Son, and Son is not moving to a wing-back role.

So, that leaves Dele with limited playing options under Conte.

Son & Kane are also not going to play every minute of every game, even if your just talking about the league and not including the cups.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Son & Kane are also not going to play every minute of every game, even if your just talking about the league and not including the cups.

This season Kane/Son played a combined 6200 minutes out of 6800 - leaving 600 for Dele in that scenario.

This season Dele played 619 minutes in the league...

It would be great if he can find a role in the squad - but its an uphill battle for him to find meaningful minutes.

 

[YB123]

I can see Hojbjerg being a casualty.

Conte played Brozovic there and hes technically very good and can make nice triangular patterns of play. Hojbjerg isn't as technically accomplished and whilst he's a decent blocker hes also better at just moving the ball forward and not working angles.

Ndombele's chances have just increased though.

Not sure what it means for Skipp, Conte may be highly impressed with him and use him as the holding role or he may prefer to keep him as back up or even loan him out.

I think all of our CBs are at risk other than Rodon.

I can also see less players coming in. Probably a CF, 2xCBs, RWB, CM as opposed to Poch needing a big refresh.

Na, I sense he will love Hojbjerg. From Pep to Jose, all his managers seemed to wax lyrical about him.

 

[TheHodFather]

Reggie and Sess look tailor-made for the LWB role. I wouldn't be completely amazed if Conte thought that Bergwijn and/or Lucas could do the RWB role. Doherty might look better as a wing-back as well, and Davies would presumably play left centre back which I think is probably his best position.

 

[synththfc]

I don’t think I could ever get that excited about having 3 CBs on the pitch.

Our best football in years came under poch's 3421

 

[robpalmer135]

This season Kane/Son played a combined 6200 minutes out of 6800 - leaving 600 for Dele in that scenario.

This season Dele played 619 minutes in the league...

It would be great if he can find a role in the squad - but its an uphill battle for him to find meaningful minutes.

So are you suggesting we don't need to add an additional Forward to the squad? Just rely on Kane & Son?