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Why can't we rip up Adebayor's contract a la Newcastle/Ben Arfa?

BK007

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This goes for any of our players.

Why did we let Bentley/Gomes/Assou Ekotto all run their contracts down to zero?

Is it because they, and this is most likely, are too comfortable to actually go play football somewhere else and are content with sitting on the bench/at home picking up paychecks without playing?

Why do we end up with so many of these kinds of mercenary players? (I know they all are, but just like Bentley quit after he left us, I don't think either Ekotto or Ade are going to be signed by anyone.) At least with Mitchell in, we might stop recruiting this cancer of a player type. Maybe.

Anyway, if the issue is we are still on contract to pay them wages, why can't we simply pay out their remainder of contract immediately and let them leave? They aren't ever going to play again anyway and it creates space in the squad. I know with Ekotto he's already not in the squad anyway, so it doesn't matter. But after all we've heard behind the scenes of Ade, why can't we just get him out? Doesn't his contract end this summer anyway?

We surely cannot let him stay for one more season. Never should have signed him, despite his goals, his attitude has always been shit and probably hurt the dressing room more than helped in his time. We pay a fucking fortune for his shit attitude.
 

spurs mental

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I think this would be akin to sacking a manager. You would have to pay them compensation, or whatever they are due in lieu of the remaining time of their contract, so there would be really no point, as we would not be able to pay new player, and also their wages. It would be far too much money be paying out to two players who may not even play much if at all.

Unfortunately we don't have the funds or means like City or Chelsea to stockpile players or leave someone to run down their contract. We have to make some money back on investments, especially on a high earner like Adebayor.
 

jonnyp

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This goes for any of our players.

Why did we let Bentley/Gomes/Assou Ekotto all run their contracts down to zero?

Is it because they, and this is most likely, are too comfortable to actually go play football somewhere else and are content with sitting on the bench/at home picking up paychecks without playing?

Why do we end up with so many of these kinds of mercenary players? (I know they all are, but just like Bentley quit after he left us, I don't think either Ekotto or Ade are going to be signed by anyone.) At least with Mitchell in, we might stop recruiting this cancer of a player type. Maybe.

Anyway, if the issue is we are still on contract to pay them wages, why can't we simply pay out their remainder of contract immediately and let them leave? They aren't ever going to play again anyway and it creates space in the squad. I know with Ekotto he's already not in the squad anyway, so it doesn't matter. But after all we've heard behind the scenes of Ade, why can't we just get him out? Doesn't his contract end this summer anyway?

We surely cannot let him stay for one more season. Never should have signed him, despite his goals, his attitude has always been shit and probably hurt the dressing room more than helped in his time. We pay a fucking fortune for his shit attitude.

As someone said, we'd have to pay out the remainder of their contract anyway so it doesn't really make sense unless the player is willing to accept a lower compensation than the remaining contract is worth - which is very doubtful knowing Adebayor.
 

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Assou Ekotto is still under contract, so hasn't ran that down yet (has he?)

Thing with Adebayor is that he is still showing a willingness to play for the club, as per:

http://instagram.com/p/xZuOUoP5tz/

I think Redknapp took a dislike to Bentley due to personal indifferences more than anything, and he failed to impress the clubs he was on loan to enough to convince someone to sign him - his lack of passion for the game would have been a big factor in that, because if he had even slightly suggested he would retire at the end of his contract then it would have meant that another club wouldn't want to take such a risk.
 

Kendall

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Gomes was a bit weird, we blocked a number of moves due to money then let him go for nothing.

Assou-Ekotto is surely a bit different, he was fit at the start of the season, it was THFC's decision not to let him play for us anymore. That's not on him, why shouldn't he be allowed to keep his contract? He isn't in breach and still goes to our home matches in his box, which presumably THFC allowed him to pay for.

Adebayor, it was AVB that banished him and then he came back to become our top scorer for the second time in 3 seasons. To my knowledge this season he hasn't been in breach of contract, so why shouldn't he be paid?
 

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Gomes was a bit weird, we blocked a number of moves due to money then let him go for nothing.

Assou-Ekotto is surely a bit different, he was fit at the start of the season, it was THFC's decision not to let him play for us anymore. That's not on him, why shouldn't he be allowed to keep his contract? He isn't in breach and still goes to our home matches in his box, which presumably THFC allowed him to pay for.

Adebayor, it was AVB that banished him and then he came back to become our top scorer for the second time in 3 seasons. To my knowledge this season he hasn't been in breach of contract, so why shouldn't he be paid?

In any other profession you'd get constructive dismissal. With football, you get 'mercenaries'. lol
 

Gassin's finest

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Why would we want to rip up his contract anyway? Cause he's not been very good so far this season?

Bloody hell, we kept Anthony Gardner around for long enough...
 

nightgoat

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Newcastle cancelling Ben Arfa's contract was down to mutual consent, which probably equates to Ben Arfa forgoing a payment of the remainder of his salary to enable him to sign for Nice for nothing. Hell freezes over before Adebayor forfeits a salary payment.
 

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Why would we want to rip up his contract anyway? Cause he's not been very good so far this season?

Bloody hell, we kept Anthony Gardner around for long enough...

Plus the club seem to have forgotten Khumalo's age. How much more development can you expect at 28 lol
 

Geyzer Soze

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Contracts are 2 way streets. You want to be able to 'rip up' Adebayors?

okay. Then you have to accept that whenever he wants to Hugo can rip up his

Fair do's?
 
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Riandor

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Also, IF these players were asked not to come back due to their attitudes towards the club (just saying IF, not that these are the facts), why pay them out? They will not leave because they want to cash in, so let them. They just cant train with us or join anyone else.

i would not give them a payout so that they could join someone else.

In this instance though I think there is more to it.
 

faymantaray

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The Ade situation is completely under control. We will be re-introducing him soon enough and with his obligatory seasonal 'point-to-prove', he will bag 27 goals in a late 14-game win streak which will see us push for the title.
 
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Real_madyidd

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Aren't they considered as depreciating assets as their contracts run down?
 

Blockbuster

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Football is just a job for these players, maybe they have a life in London, family, friends, maybe lost a bit of passion for the game since coming to Spurs, who can blame them for wanting to run their contracts down?

its up to Spurs to get these guys playing, can't hate on them really.

if my employer decided i didn't need to do my day job anymore and just come in and do some admin work but still get paid, id still do it... yeah its a bit demeaning and I'd in time itch for a move to a new job but for the time being id take the easy ride.
 

Kendall

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Aren't they considered as depreciating assets as their contracts run down?

They're generally capitalised as intengible assets (inclusive of transfer/agents fees) and amortised over the life of their contract. When a new contract is signed, the remaining asset value is amortised over the length of the new contract.

So it's not simply a case of valuing a player at X and stating it on your balance sheet. As I understand it, Harry Kane would not necessarily have a balance sheet asset value.
 

onthetwo

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Aside from the implications of paying them off (up-front)
Contracts are 2 way streets. You want to be able to 'rip up' Adebayors.

okay. Then you have to accept that whenever he wants to Hugo can rip up his

Fair do's?
No contract gets 'ripped-up' without getting paid off (compensated).
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Well, 1) it' better to pay the expected salary in instalments over XYZ+++ points in time, rather than all upfront at point X.

Furthermore, 2) if the club were to break the contract for no apparent legal reason, they might have to compensate more than the salary. Even when the club sells a player despite the player actively wishing not to leave, the player can be due certain bonuses and fees.

It can costs less, in total, to have the player sit the contract out over simply paying them off.

However, it's not a good business decision to pay several hundred thousands pounds a week in salaries to players who are not even part of the squad, and I don't understand every Spurs-decision surrounding this in the past. Surely some flexibility would have been prudent.
 
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