Why is Commoli not being axed too?

[idlepete]

If the player was a no go and any subsequent player down Jol's shopping list was a no go, Comolli used his contacts, official and non-official, to get Jol back a list of possible targets befitting the requisite description.

I'd like to see Comolli's list from last summer of possible targets for the defensive midfield department then. If only for a laugh.

 

[Kurtzen]

Levy thinks the sun shines out of DC's backside, so I've heard

Eclipsed by a Ramos moon

:wink:

 

[gibbs131]

Much the same as was said about Chris Hughton until last night.

That was leveled at me 1000 times. And now he is gone I can't even gloat because Jol going too has crushed me.

 

[gibbs131]

I'll just keep posting this until the lemmings get it drilled into their thick skulls. I think a lot of people just need to learn what a DOF actually is and go from there...

Erm, I specifically mentioned he made the team unbalanced BECAUSE HE BRINGS IN THE KIDS.

Too much emphasis has been placed on youth. Lets not be fooled, players like Botang Kaboul etc cost us a friken fortune.

How about you read the thread before you scoff?

 

[The Apprentice]

I'll just keep posting this until the lemmings get it drilled into their thick skulls. I think a lot of people just need to learn what a DOF actually is and go from there...

I hope you're not suggesting that any blame should be placed on Lord Martin Jol's shoulders?

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

Okay I am post whoring today but this is the last one.

Jol accused the board/Commoli of not spending money on players they will not be able to sell off long term.

They didn't want to shell out 7 million for a 30 year old that could give us 3 good seasons and go for peanuts.

So Jol has been forced to use untried players this season. And not because of of injury. It was because our squad is predominantly full of kids.

So why has Commoli survived the cull? He has not been sensational by any stretch and deserves partial blame for our unbalanced squad.

You misunderstand completely what has been going on.

There has been a political battle of wills between Comolli and Jol. Comolli won. Jol lost. Jol has been sacked. Comolli now for the first time has the same job that Arnesen had: complete control of football matters. There is not going to be a new manager, there is going to be a new Head Coach.

 

[DFF]

Erm, I specifically mentioned he made the team unbalanced BECAUSE HE BRINGS IN THE KIDS.

Too much emphasis has been placed on youth. Lets not be fooled, players like Botang Kaboul etc cost us a friken fortune.

How about you read the thread before you scoff?

I wasn't 'scoffing' at you in particular. But while i'm here...

Comolli doesn't put the profitability condition on potential incoming players. Levy does. The buying of kids and the reluctance to spend money on older players is a result of Levy's business plan. Comprende?

 

[HuggyBear]

In June 2005 World Soccer Magazine's top technical directors in the world list went
1st Frank Arnesen, Tottenham.
2nd Klaus Allofs, Werder Bremen.
3rd Damien Comolli, St Etienne
4th Martin Van Geel, AZ.
5th Pantaleo Corvino, Leece.
6th Ramon 'Monchi' Rodriguez, Seville.

Like him or loathe him, Levy ain't gonna get rid of Comolli

All that shows is that having a DoF makes you an above average team. Even though Arnesen is now at Chelsea and Van Geel is now at Ajax they aren't exactly doing well at the moment.

 

[gibbs131]

I wasn't 'scoffing' at you in particular. But while i'm here...

Comolli doesn't put the profitability condition on potential incoming players. Levy does. The buying of kids and the reluctance to spend money on older players is a result of Levy's business plan. Comprende?

Jesus dude. I mentioned that in the opening thread too (I said the board, which Levy is head of). Come on man...You are giving me too much ammo here! Read the words and stuff.

 

[DFF]

Jesus dude. I mentioned that in the opening thread too (I said the board, which Levy is head of).

That may be so, but i replied to this post:

Erm, I specifically mentioned he made the team unbalanced BECAUSE HE BRINGS IN THE KIDS.

Too much emphasis has been placed on youth. Lets not be fooled, players like Botang Kaboul etc cost us a friken fortune.

How about you read the thread before you scoff?

The 'he' you were referring to was Comolli.

I think you're firing blanks here.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

DFF,

That's a great summary of a role which British football in general has inherently been suspicious of.
As a role i don't disagree with it but can you explain this, if, as you're implying, Jol has the team he asked for which was sourced by Comolli why would the board allow £40M to be spent on a coach which they blatantly had reservations about?
Wasn't Levy trying to avoid a situation where we change managers and therefore squads every 2 years?
Weren't we supposed to have a head coach with the DOF having total responsibility for these matters. If so, Ramos doesn't seem to fit the bill does he?

 

[gibbs131]

That may be so, but i replied to this post:



The 'he' you were referring to was Comolli.

I think you're firing blanks here.

So I did not mention the board were involved in the first thread>>>?????

Way to troll.

 

[DFF]

DFF,

That's a great summary of a role which British football in general has inherently been suspicious of.
As a role i don't disagree with it but can you explain this, if, as you're implying, Jol has the team he asked for which was sourced by Comolli why would the board allow £40M to be spent on a coach which they blatantly had reservations about?
Wasn't Levy trying to avoid a situation where we change managers and therefore squads every 2 years?
Weren't we supposed to have a head coach with the DOF having total responsibility for these matters. If so, Ramos doesn't seem to fit the bill does he?

I personally don't think they had reservations about Jol at the time of the spending spree. Something may have changed after the fact. It may not. They may have just been sounding out a replacement with strong rumours of Jol taking the Dutch national team job. Either way, during our summer of spending i believe everything was hunky-dory. Now (while putting my tin foil hat on), that's not to say other members of the board weren't plotting Jol's demise. :shrug:

 

[DFF]

So I did not mention the board were involved in the first thread>>>?????

Way to troll.

You revised that in the other post and blamed it on Comolli. Who, unfortunately, has little to do with the buying/business philosophy. He just implements it.

Just say which posts you want me to ignore next time.

 

[SpursManChris]

I do not see the big problem with having Comolli. Eleviates alot of pressure off the manager and he has scouted well. I really don't think he would undermine the manager.
He seems like a very intellegent man when I've seen him interviewed and he would have many contacts in the footballing world. Someone before posted DOF rankings and look where he sat. I just wish he had spotted Elano...

 

[funkycoldmedina]

I personally don't think they had reservations about Jol at the time of the spending spree. Something may have changed after the fact. It may not. They may have just been sounding out a replacement with strong rumours of Jol taking the Dutch national team job. Either way, during our summer of spending i believe everything was hunky-dory. Now (while putting my tin foil hat on), that's not to say other members of the board weren't plotting Jol's demise. :shrug:

One of the most enlightening things that i've read over the past month or so are Fergie's comments about hangers on around the club. He talked about this sub culture and Man Utd that had a huge influence on the board but were never accountable. I think we have these mebers in abundance at spurs and they have the ear of influential board members, who in my opinion have little or no real football knowledge hence why theyt are on the periphery.
I was under the impression in the new regime that Comolli would make any coaching dismissals and appointments, this doesn't seem to have been the case.
on a side note I think that if they were sounding out managers as cover for Jol potentially leaving they'd have had private meetings in private. These are men who know how to use and manipulate the media. IMHO Jol was intentionally and systematically undermined.

 

[gibbs131]

You misunderstand completely what has been going on.

There has been a political battle of wills between Comolli and Jol. Comolli won. Jol lost. Jol has been sacked. Comolli now for the first time has the same job that Arnesen had: complete control of football matters. There is not going to be a new manager, there is going to be a new Head Coach.

And there was me thinking we were losing the battle ON THE PITCH because we had kids and not leaders.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

As DFF has already explained, Comoli should not be sacked as he has fulfilled his remit, passed down from the board. It is the board that have implemented a player acquisition strategy. Where I disagree with DFF is the level of imput Jol has had in recruitment. I have a feeling that Jol has had less say in personnel changes than even he has made out. Which IMO is a good thing as I think that Jol's player personnel choices were worrying at times.

The whole point of the DOF concept is that when your head coach goes you have the continuity of a DOF and the strategy doesn't change along with every fucker that the outgoing manager bought.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

Someone posted the DOF rankings. Are there any TOP 4 CLUBS in that ranking? NO!

Now are there any Top 4 clubs in Europe with DOF weilding unlimited power? NO!

DOF doesn't work, unless you want to make money by selling players and stay midtable. And about Comolli's scouting talent, even bats can see how shit Zokora is.

 

[gibbs131]

Someone posted the DOF rankings. Are there any TOP 4 CLUBS in that ranking? NO!

Now are there any Top 4 clubs in Europe with DOF weilding unlimited power? NO!

DOF doesn't work, unless you want to make money by selling players and stay midtable. And about Comolli's scouting talent, even bats can see how shit Zokora is.

True. Just good old fashioned scouts trying to convince a manager has always worked in the past. The cloak and dagger network BS is pretty much started by the DOF's themselves to up their notoriety.