Why is Robbo suddenly disposable?

[lifeof...]

your video isn't pretty viewing as it doesn't work.

Worked for me, but then i did press the play button:razz:

 

[Rocksuperstar]

can't and haven't disagreed that he's had a couple of clangers, but that video really shows how exposed the guy is otherwise - if we take just the goals he can be directly blamed for, it still doesn't say to me he's a failure, it just says his confidence is shot to f*ck :shrug:

He has not a shred of confidence in his defence which, as a keeper correct me, i would imagine can be a massive distraction.

Aside from that blunderful effort, the other three goals just show how poor our midfield were. The amount of space they gave away and the obvious complete lack of communication or attention from both Hudd and Zoko is more a contributing factor.

I'm not looking for excuses, i was quite dissapointed he didn't get down for Butt's equalizer, maybe he was on the wrong foot i dunno, but i think this polar view of him is really not justified.

Do we expect too much from our players? Is it possible to expect too much from your team? I mean everyone wants their team to win every game, but i think this haste to jump and scream for a keeper with so much stacked against him just stinks of people wanting a scapegoat, an excuse for our poor results.

As i said, people know there's enough money sloshing about so they want results NOW, without considering what would happen if we did replace Robbo and continued to ship goals by the dozen.

I don't want a treatment, i want a cure and that starts with the weakest link - our midfield and merry-go-round defence, in my opinion.

 

[Yid-ol]

can't and haven't disagreed that he's had a couple of clangers, but that video really shows how exposed the guy is otherwise - if we take just the goals he can be directly blamed for, it still doesn't say to me he's a failure, it just says his confidence is shot to f*ck :shrug:

He has not a shred of confidence in his defence which, as a keeper correct me, i would imagine can be a massive distraction.

Aside from that blunderful effort, the other three goals just show how poor our midfield were. The amount of space they gave away and the obvious complete lack of communication or attention from both Hudd and Zoko is more a contributing factor.

I'm not looking for excuses, i was quite dissapointed he didn't get down for Butt's equalizer, maybe he was on the wrong foot i dunno, but i think this polar view of him is really not justified.

Do we expect too much from our players? Is it possible to expect too much from your team? I mean everyone wants their team to win every game, but i think this haste to jump and scream for a keeper with so much stacked against him just stinks of people wanting a scapegoat, an excuse for our poor results.

As i said, people know there's enough money sloshing about so they want results NOW, without considering what would happen if we did replace Robbo and continued to ship goals by the dozen.

I don't want a treatment, i want a cure and that starts with the weakest link - our midfield and merry-go-round defence, in my opinion.

i agree with this :up: can someone atchaly tell me what the midfielders did against newcastle? anything... a tackle, a pass :shrug: :wink: ok, they wouldnt have been that bad, but the video shows how poor at tracking a man or atchaly defending some of them are!

we need a goalkeeping cach, stop changing the defence everyweek, and a midfield that will atchaly play! then things might look better again

 

[General Levy]

The video doesn't work for me as it is just a white square. It could have something to do with my browser and Ad Block Plus. In any case, you should post the link at the bottom, as well as the embedded video.

 

[RussellYid]

can't and haven't disagreed that he's had a couple of clangers, but that video really shows how exposed the guy is otherwise - if we take just the goals he can be directly blamed for, it still doesn't say to me he's a failure, it just says his confidence is shot to f*ck :shrug:

He has not a shred of confidence in his defence which, as a keeper correct me, i would imagine can be a massive distraction.

Aside from that blunderful effort, the other three goals just show how poor our midfield were. The amount of space they gave away and the obvious complete lack of communication or attention from both Hudd and Zoko is more a contributing factor.

I'm not looking for excuses, i was quite dissapointed he didn't get down for Butt's equalizer, maybe he was on the wrong foot i dunno, but i think this polar view of him is really not justified.

Do we expect too much from our players? Is it possible to expect too much from your team? I mean everyone wants their team to win every game, but i think this haste to jump and scream for a keeper with so much stacked against him just stinks of people wanting a scapegoat, an excuse for our poor results.

As i said, people know there's enough money sloshing about so they want results NOW, without considering what would happen if we did replace Robbo and continued to ship goals by the dozen.

I don't want a treatment, i want a cure and that starts with the weakest link - our midfield and merry-go-round defence, in my opinion.

That post is a rollercoaster for me. I agree, disagree, agree, disagree. T'is a good post for that very reason.

For the record, the bold is where I agree with you.

 

[RussellYid]

The video doesn't work for me as it is just a white square. It could have something to do with my browser and Ad Block Plus. In any case, you should post the link at the bottom, as well as the embedded video.

If that'd have said "you could" I'd have done it.

 

[Bulletspur]

That post is a rollercoaster for me. I agree, disagree, agree, disagree.

Shhhh :shhh:, dont let me say it loud but......Its called being fickle!!

 

[Zapsta]

can't and haven't disagreed that he's had a couple of clangers, but that video really shows how exposed the guy is otherwise - if we take just the goals he can be directly blamed for, it still doesn't say to me he's a failure, it just says his confidence is shot to f*ck :shrug:

He has not a shred of confidence in his defence which, as a keeper correct me, i would imagine can be a massive distraction.

Aside from that blunderful effort, the other three goals just show how poor our midfield were. The amount of space they gave away and the obvious complete lack of communication or attention from both Hudd and Zoko is more a contributing factor.

I'm not looking for excuses, i was quite dissapointed he didn't get down for Butt's equalizer, maybe he was on the wrong foot i dunno, but i think this polar view of him is really not justified.

Do we expect too much from our players? Is it possible to expect too much from your team? I mean everyone wants their team to win every game, but i think this haste to jump and scream for a keeper with so much stacked against him just stinks of people wanting a scapegoat, an excuse for our poor results.

As i said, people know there's enough money sloshing about so they want results NOW, without considering what would happen if we did replace Robbo and continued to ship goals by the dozen.

I don't want a treatment, i want a cure and that starts with the weakest link - our midfield and merry-go-round defence, in my opinion.

You've put way to much thought into this. Basically, Paul Robinson is shit. That's not reactionary. What was reactionary was to elevate him to the status of wonder keeper after a few heroic performances for Leeds in the Champions League. He was never a great keeper, neither for us nor for Leeds. If he ever deserved to be England no. 1, it was only through lack of competition. At best, he's a keeper for a team in the position we're in now.

 

[General Levy]

If that'd have said "you could" I'd have done it.

Sorry.

 

[RussellYid]

Sorry.

You don't mean it! :wink:

But look! The link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jjYkuVkwPg

 

[RussellYid]

Shhhh :shhh:, dont let me say it loud but......Its called being fickle!!

:shake:

 

[DoublePivot]

Basically, Paul Robinson is shit. That's not reactionary. What was reactionary was to elevate him to the status of wonder keeper after a few heroic performances for Leeds in the Champions League. He was never a great keeper, neither for us nor for Leeds. If he ever deserved to be England no. 1, it was only through lack of competition. At best, he's a keeper for a team in the position we're in now.

This is a good point. We all tend to do this way to easily. What's interesting is that Robbo made it so long without being torn down when we consider how quickly we are going about the business of ripping Hudds, Lennon and Taraabt, who are all way younger than Robinson.

But we build them up to tear them down. And then we crucify the press when they do it.

And while I did lay into RSS, and that was frustation, and nothing personal was meant - sorry. I do agree with him that the midfield is as much to blame and solidifying it will help any goalkeeper, but more importantly it would help what is a decent backline, which has come to look poor because it has no protection in front or back of it.

 

[double0]

Robinson what a JOKE. In all the game we've conceded 4 goals, Aston Villa, Chelski, Reading, Newcastle, Robinson's been in goal.

He should be the first to leave come the close season and with we get our money back it'll be superb business.

 

[SpurSince57]

No, he wasn't, and hasn't, been a great keeper—I believe that in his England cohort he was rated below Kirkland, and that it was only the fact that the latter has fingers made out of sponge biscuits that got Robbo his step as replacement for James. That said, if not a great keeper, he's turned in some great performances, and two years ago was arguably top of the bunch below the very best—you simply cannot gainsay 110 saves at a shot-to-save ratio of 75%.

Now what we've seen since has been a slump in form and confidence following the WC coinciding with our defence going tits-up, a pretty disastrous combination. That 110/75% bombed to 89/60(ish)%. Robbo has to take his share of responsibility, but a lot more devolves upon those supposed to provide protection, and I simply don't buy this 'He terrifies the defence' bollocks. The reason that Chimbonda, say, simply fucks off and allows free headers is because he's so worried by his keeper? Please…

At the end of last season Beni made a heroic analysis of all the goals we'd conceded; 27—fully 50%—were ascribable to errors by Dawson and Chimbonda. Just seven were 100% Robbo's fault. Opinions might differ over some interpretations, but I don't believe there would be too much change in that spread. I posted earlier, two of the 17 goals we've conceded in ten games since Robbo's return—the two free kicks—have been down to his errors. I haven't noticed anyone claiming that the remaining fifteen were his 'fault'. There have, of course, been other mistakes that have gone unpunished.

Where I have a problem is with the apparently widespread belief that a new keeper will provide an instant panacea. No, he won't, unless the other pieces of the defensive jigsaw are fully sorted. A truly world-class keeper would make some difference, but are we likely to sign one?

 

[SpurSince57]

Robinson what a JOKE. In all the game we've conceded 4 goals, Aston Villa, Chelski, Reading, Newcastle, Robinson's been in goal.

He should be the first to leave come the close season and with we get our money back it'll be superb business.

Aside from the Villa game, in which he undoubtedly did have one of the worst days (nights?) at the office in goalkeeping history, and Newcastle's free kick, how many of those goals were his fault, and how many could he (or any other keeper) done much about? Against Reading he made two vital dives for the ball at Kitson's feet—without those it might easily have been 6-4 to them.