Winter Transfer Wishlist

[Shadydan]

Tbf, I don't think it'd go up to £70-80m, so not sure why I argued. I do think Levy would make him unbuyable by slapping an exorbitant fee on him, but that's because we have no reason/inclination to sell him

Right agree with that but that's a totally different argument, Levy will do what he does with all his assets if Poch rates him, give him a big contract and keep on renewing.

Just seems strange thing to say when there's other players who play in his position on the same level as him who are far more likely to move in the next 8 months. Players like De Jong, Ndombele and that Cagliari midfielder will be the transfers that dictate the market as they're likely to be sold to rich teams, not Winks.

 

[Japhet]

Plenty of people disagree on Barkley and fair enough I respect others opinions, however no one has given any other solutions.
De Jong is a pipe dream, missed the boat on the French midfielder also in my opinion.
We need homegrown players and I'm struggling who to think of, Delph had a good game for England the other day? Not fancying grealish at rumoured 30 mill buyout.
Any more ideas??

Grealish was our solution until Levy got Levy'd.

 

[Shadydan]

Not forgetting Pep was waxing lyrical about him in the 2nd half of the recent their recent match with us a Wembley. Pep never praises opposition players for the sake of it.

Oh come off it lol

I swear the International break has got to some of you, we'd be dying right now if someone quoted this off RAWK

 

[coys200]

I wasn’t saying Winks was worth £70-80m his true current value is £40-50m imo. My point was for US to consider letting him go it would have to be a ridiculous offer like £70m and other clubs know that which is why he isn’t linked with someone like city. But if United came knocking I’m sure £70m is the kind of quote they’d get.

 

[coys200]

The whole £70-80m winks valuation was in reference to why not linked with big clubs. And my point was that’s why because that’s the price tag levy would put on him.

 

[Shadydan]

coys200 causing carnage on SC again

 

[coys200]

coys200 causing carnage on SC again

Wouldn’t take much notice of transfermarkt valuations either they have foyth at £5m and lamela at £20m. CIES who are much more accurate had winks at £30m early December last year. He must have gone up £10-15m at least since then.

 

[Lighty64]

Unfortunately I believe he'll end up at City. I feel like we should be looking at City's second tier players like Gündogan, Laporte and so forth. City will need to off-load a couple of players in the summer. It might not be as exciting as signing up-and-coming talents but they are quality players and we might get them at a discard price.

you do know Laporte has played every league & CL game so far, so I doubt they see him as 2nd rate.

 

[Lilbaz]

It’s an interesting point. Historically we have paid agent fees so the idea that we categorically don’t is pure nonsense.

But in the last 2 years agent and transfer fees have risen hugely. At this stage we haven’t adjusted and look for value in a world where it doesn’t exist.

Some Championship clubs are paying over £10m for players now so the idea that we can get the top young talent from there for peanuts is old news.

Value doesn't exist? I'd say foyth and moura were good value.

 

[dontcallme]

Value doesn't exist? I'd say foyth and moura were good value.

Ok it is out there but certainly harder to find.

I believe locations for value are becoming less and if we are to buy players of the quality and position we require then we will need to overspend at times.

 

[Japhet]

Ok it is out there but certainly harder to find.

I believe locations for value are becoming less and if we are to buy players of the quality and position we require then we will need to overspend at times.

You'll send Levy scuttling off down his burrow with talk like that.

 

[dtxspurs]

Value doesn't exist? I'd say foyth and moura were good value.

There's plenty of value left in the market.

 

[dontcallme]

There's plenty of value left in the market.

Not convinced there is for the level of player we need to improve.

 

[coys200]

There's plenty of value left in the market.

Torreira and guendozi look great value. So does shaqiri. It’s basically trying to get in before that “middle man club”. The majority of these players have been bought for small fees. Very few are like de jong de ligt and academy products. It’s also getting in before the twitter hyper train starts rolling. The value is there but you just have to be quicker.

 

[Lilbaz]

Ok it is out there but certainly harder to find.

I believe locations for value are becoming less and if we are to buy players of the quality and position we require then we will need to overspend at times.

I think there has been a blip. Premier league clubs got the new tv money, neymar, and a couple of other big money moves inflated the market. But this summer premier league spending was down considerably. The new domestic deal has flatlined so i can see the prices settling a bit.

 

[dontcallme]

I think there has been a blip. Premier league clubs got the new tv money, neymar, and a couple of other big money moves inflated the market. But this summer premier league spending was down considerably. The new domestic deal has flatlined so i can see the prices settling a bit.

I think spending was down because Prem teams are cash rich and don’t have need to sell their players for financial reasons.

 

[dtxspurs]

Not convinced there is for the level of player we need to improve.

Lucas Moura hasn't improved our attacking options? Foyth our defensive options? Fabian Ruiz would have done wonders for our midfield this year, release clause had him move to Napoli for a very reasonable fee. Torreira the same for Arsenal.

The club has successfully brain washed a lot of you that these deals are just impossible to make.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Lucas Moura hasn't improved our attacking options? Foyth our defensive options? Fabian Ruiz would have done wonders for our midfield this year, release clause had him move to Napoli for a very reasonable fee. Torreira the same for Arsenal.

The club has successfully brain washed a lot of you that these deals are just impossible to make.

Well argued

Even if it was a year ago, Salah went for £30m while O.Dembele was going for over €100m

It's out there for sure, particularly in relation to young players - it just forces you to take a view on a player, and the reality is that it might go wrong.

 

[dtxspurs]

Well argued

Even if it was a year ago, Salah went for £30m while O.Dembele was going for over €100m

It's out there for sure, particularly in relation to young players - it just forces you to take a view on a player, and the reality is that it might go wrong.

There's just certain clubs/countries where you can find it, and theres others that you can't. You're rarely if ever going to find it in the prem. But its all over the place in Germany, France, Spain amongst the non champions league clubs. They just need the money.

 

[robertgoulet]

Lucas Moura hasn't improved our attacking options? Foyth our defensive options? Fabian Ruiz would have done wonders for our midfield this year, release clause had him move to Napoli for a very reasonable fee. Torreira the same for Arsenal.

The club has successfully brain washed a lot of you that these deals are just impossible to make.

They're not impossible, but the hit rate is lower. Your 75M purchase is more likely to be an impact player than your 20M purchase. So the question is:

Do you risk the 75M on a 80% chance (made that % up) he will be an impact player? Or do you buy 5 players for 15M each (Nkoudou, Njie, Jannsen types) on the 10% change (again, made up) that one of them will impact as much as the the 75M guy?

I'd argue that, with a club like Spurs where we apparently can't afford to pay guys to not play, you'd want to spend 75M and pay that guy 150K/wk, as he's more likely to be able to be sold in 2 yrs if he doesn't pan out. Whereas your 15M purchases may have so little value that no one wants them and you're stuck paying each of them 30-40K/wk when they suck.