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Progressive thread by the way.
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It drives me crazy that sport is always at the sharp end of the equal pay arguement.
Sport is literally the only profession where there is an arguement for men being paid differently to women.
Always using sport as the case study masks the huge injustices in normal work places were women are being paid differently to men when doing exactly the same job to the exact same standards.
It is illegal in this country to pay people differntly for doing the same job to the same standard based on race or sex. It has been for decades.
But is very common. For the record I don't think it's a concious decision to pay women less for doing the same job - it is just a product of the way salaries are negotiated when going for a job.
Very possible. But a lot is that men and women usually do different jobs. If you take a supermarket for instance, warehouse workers get paid more than the people that work on the tills. But more men work in the warehouse and more women work on the tills. Which means that men in supermarkets are usually better paid than females.
Also career breaks to have children affect women far more than men.
Work still needs to be done though that is certain.
But is very common. For the record I don't think it's a concious decision to pay women less for doing the same job - it is just a product of the way salaries are negotiated when going for a job.
Then that's illegal and these women should be taking their employers to court. If companies can get away with paying women less for doing the same job, why aren't they all employing women?
Taken from the link you used:
"Ed Desser, a sports television consultant and former N.B.A. executive, described several factors leading to a “perfect storm” of viewership on Sunday night: a time of year with light sports competition, a strong American team to root for, a rematch of the 2011 Women’s World Cup finalists, and weeks of buildup for the American team on both Fox and Fox Sports 1."
In other words, had the USA not been in it, the viewing figures would have been much much lower.
The men's WC final draws in massive figures regardless of who is in it.
You then slightly skew the claim about the comparison to the World Series.
The 26.7 million viewers for the WC final was English & Spanish speaking, whereas the article states the figure for the World Series as only being the English speaking viewers, so it's not a like for like comparison.
You also failed to add the bit that the NCAA Men's Basketball final for that year had a higher audience.
That being said... In the US, women's football is definitely a growing sport of choice for girls. It does pull in an audience over there, whereas across the rest of the world it doesn't.
The fact the USA were in it was the whole point. They attracted that massive audience. It's the US women's team who are looking for equal pay.
You're giving me far too much credit there anyway. It was just a quick post trying to show that the USA women's team can attract large audiences. There were almost as many people in the us watching the women's final as there were in the UK watching our men's semifinal against Croatia. It's a bigger country, but it's still impressive.
It doesn't really matter how big the audience was. It's about how much fifa got from selling the tv rights and sponsorship that will determine how much each team gets.
I think there's two different things being discussed on here. The article on the original post was talking about prize money, but then the post and title talk about equal pay. For the most part I've just been saying that the women should get the same basic appearance fee as the men's team.
What am I missing here?
That most people would be surprised that a girls team could beat all of the boys teams?
Well it's the girls u12 from the biggest club in the world with all the resources and coaches at their disposal playing against local kids amateur sides. If they could play anywhere near the level of the barca boys u12 team i'd be impressed. It's like me playing serena williams at tennis, of course she'd destroy me.