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DaSpurs

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I do see your point, but If we are buying I would rather it be someone who really is a first 11 player and make us drop one of CE, MD, NC or EL. Not linger behind, making a good cameo here and there. I don't think he is better that our first choice 3, so he doesn't 'improve' us . That's my point. If we want more numbers just don't sell Lennon.

Kono is good but is really just variation and not that much better than the variation we have. I won't be upset him arriving, I love a signing and new blood, just don't really see the point.

The game had become incredibly complicated. It's becoming less and less a case of whose quality XI is the strongest and overcoming the other in that vein, and more and more similar to a chess game (but not entirely of course). There are far too many games in which Chadli goes missing, especially against sides which don't afford him space since he's not great at working through tight spaces. We could spend 15m+ to buy a quality improvement to simply overcome (thereby pushing Chadli back in the preference and thus fucking him off), or we could buy a 5-7m player on end of contract with an entirely different skillset for a versatility improvement to fill in at Chadli's weaknesses.

The whole point I've been trying to make in this thread is why spend that much more for the what would equate to a very similar net effect in point accumulation, if not the very same? Chadli clearly does well against quality sides willing to attack us, so why not fill in those gaps where he's struggled, and earn the same net positive point haul as you'd get if you replaced Chadli, for considerably less money spent? And on top of it, we've not fucked off a strongly contributing winger as the status quo here is alternation per situations rather than replacement.

Does that explain the case being made here better?
 

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I'd prefer Mirallas over Kono but I think this one is more realistic

In practical terms, for obvious reasons Mirallas is without doubt the choice anyone would make. But for the football fan in me, I'd prefer Kono as I believe he'd not only do well in this league, but that'd he the perfect type of player to inject the aggression, confidence, and swiftness our timid side lacks far too often.
 

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The game had become incredibly complicated. It's becoming less and less a case of whose quality XI is the strongest and overcoming the other in that vein, and more and more similar to a chess game (but not entirely of course). There are far too many games in which Chadli goes missing, especially against sides which don't afford him space since he's not great at working through tight spaces. We could spend 15m+ to buy a quality improvement to simply overcome (thereby pushing Chadli back in the preference and thus fucking him off), or we could buy a 5-7m player on end of contract with an entirely different skillset for a versatility improvement to fill in at Chadli's weaknesses.

The whole point I've been trying to make in this thread is why spend that much more for the what would equate to a very similar net effect in point accumulation, if not the very same? Chadli clearly does well against quality sides willing to attack us, so why not fill in those gaps where he's struggled, and earn the same net positive point haul as you'd get if you replaced Chadli, for considerably less money spent? And on top of it, we've not fucked off a strongly contributing winger as the status quo here is alternation per situations rather than replacement.

Does that explain the case being made here better?
Have you ever seen Kono play on the right and if so how did he do?

I agree with your post and think if we can get someone with Kono's skillset that can do the same on both wings, that would be perfect.
 

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Via Twitter - this may have some legs...Hopeful, at least..

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · 3m3 minutes ago
TRANSFER! Tottenham and Dnipro have reached an agreement for the transfer of Yehven Konoplyanka. #THFC

NOW - bullshit, right? BUT this account tweeted this:


Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Fazio will now come in for €10M euros medical within next 48 hours good player but definitely behind Musacchio, you get what you pay for.

Fazio signed on August 26

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Dawson deal finally agreed in full then. I reported this a long time ago. Very complicated deal. #THFC

Dawson signed for Hull on Aug 26


EDIT: Upon further review, a lot of his tweets are very solid and come a few days early. ALSO - a lot of them are bullshit. Carry on..
 

yankspurs

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Via Twitter - this may have some legs...Hopeful, at least..

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · 3m3 minutes ago
TRANSFER! Tottenham and Dnipro have reached an agreement for the transfer of Yehven Konoplyanka. #THFC

NOW - bullshit, right? BUT this account tweeted this:


Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Fazio will now come in for €10M euros medical within next 48 hours good player but definitely behind Musacchio, you get what you pay for.

Fazio signed on August 26

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Dawson deal finally agreed in full then. I reported this a long time ago. Very complicated deal. #THFC

Dawson signed for Hull on Aug 26


EDIT: Upon further review, a lot of his tweets are very solid and come a few days early. ALSO - a lot of them are bullshit. Carry on..
Last year he tweeted Kono agreed with Liverpool and that Berbatov was coming. Also tweeted that Vertonghen had signed an extension,
 

sidford

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accounts like that tweet so many rumours and then delete the ones that dont come true so that if anyone looks back on previous tweets it looks like they got them all spot on so wouldnt pay it any attention
 

TWLURK

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accounts like that tweet so many rumours and then delete the ones that dont come true so that if anyone looks back on previous tweets it looks like they got them all spot on so wouldnt pay it any attention

YUP - LET ME BE OPTIMISTIC DAMNIT!
 

allpaths

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Via Twitter - this may have some legs...Hopeful, at least..

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · 3m3 minutes ago
TRANSFER! Tottenham and Dnipro have reached an agreement for the transfer of Yehven Konoplyanka. #THFC

NOW - bullshit, right? BUT this account tweeted this:


Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Fazio will now come in for €10M euros medical within next 48 hours good player but definitely behind Musacchio, you get what you pay for.

Fazio signed on August 26

Spurs Insider @TheSpursInsider · Aug 24
Dawson deal finally agreed in full then. I reported this a long time ago. Very complicated deal. #THFC

Dawson signed for Hull on Aug 26


EDIT: Upon further review, a lot of his tweets are very solid and come a few days early. ALSO - a lot of them are bullshit. Carry on..
he also just said we'll sign reid in the summer
 

millsey

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In practical terms, for obvious reasons Mirallas is without doubt the choice anyone would make. But for the football fan in me, I'd prefer Kono as I believe he'd not only do well in this league, but that'd he the perfect type of player to inject the aggression, confidence, and swiftness our timid side lacks far too often.
Plus the fact hes cheap as chips
 

millsey

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Dont forget 12 months ago Kono was in Liverpool signing for over 20 million until it all went in too late if i remember
 

millsey

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Our main target for that position is Depay I believe but we've missed the boat on him.
Any idea how his season has been? we havent missed the boat on him if we give them a nice juicy bid now. Not that that will happen but i dont see many clubs after him
 

millsey

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Tottenham eye transfer deadline beating raid for Yevhen Konoplyanka of Ukrainian side Dnipro

Winger previously linked with Liverpool and Manchester United is set to be out of contract in the summer and Spurs hope a £5m offer now will land him

Tottenham are considering a £5million transfer deadline day move for Yevhen Konoplyanka.

Ukraine international winger Konoplyanka is out of contract with Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk in June and will be available on a free transfer. But Capital One Cup finalists Spurs are aware there are a number of clubs keen to sign him.

Roma were interested, but pulled out late last week – leaving the way clear for Tottenham to move in for the player, who has 40 caps for his country.

Konoplyanka’s father, Oleg, said on Friday that his son – a target for Manchester United and Liverpool last summer, and also for the latter at this time last year – would see out his deal with Dnipro.

But Spurs are ready to offer £5m to secure him now – especially as their squad will be depleted by the departure of Aaron Lennon, who is on the verge of a loan move to Hull until the end of the season.

Should Lennon’s move go through, it will leave boss Mauricio Pochettino short of firepower.

And that shortage will be even more of a problem if striker Emmanuel Adebayor agrees terms with French champions Paris Saint-Germain.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-eye-transfer-deadline-beating-5079144
How will lennons deal going through leave us "short of firepower"! Firstly Im nearer playing for Spurs than lennon, and also nothing about Lennon equates to firepower!!
 

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Any idea how his season has been? we havent missed the boat on him if we give them a nice juicy bid now. Not that that will happen but i dont see many clubs after him
No idea mate don't watch much of the Dutch league. He signed a new deal at PSG in the summer and the rumoured transfer fee before he signed the deal was around £15mil so it would be silly money to prise him away now.
 

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How will lennons deal going through leave us "short of firepower"! Firstly Im nearer playing for Spurs than lennon, and also nothing about Lennon equates to firepower!!
It's this odd English press writing style - Defoe was constantly referred to as the "Spurs hitman" or something like that.

Failed crime writers, or just lazy journos who use similar scripts to write articles to meet their word count? No clue. The fact that no one in their right mind would say "yeah, let's buy Aaron Lennon and add some firepower to the side" when discussing football, yet the journalists, supposedly the masters of the written word, use such unbearable platitudes is somewhat ironic. The absolute worst is when they say "Spurs have got a war chest of 50m."
 

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It's this odd English press writing style - Defoe was constantly referred to as the "Spurs hitman" or something like that.

Failed crime writers, or just lazy journos who use similar scripts to write articles to meet their word count? No clue. The fact that no one in their right mind would say "yeah, let's buy Aaron Lennon and add some firepower to the side" when discussing football, yet the journalists, supposedly the masters of the written word, use such unbearable platitudes is somewhat ironic. The absolute worst is when they say "Spurs have got a war chest of 50m."
Player A aiming to earn his Spurs
 

kd2000

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Last year he tweeted Kono agreed with Liverpool and that Berbatov was coming. Also tweeted that Vertonghen had signed an extension,
lets not forget many on here, itk also iirc said jans new deal was 'done'. also kono was close to Liverpool too iirc
 

DaSpurs

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lets not forget many on here, itk also iirc said jans new deal was 'done'. also kono was close to Liverpool too iirc

It's also been said by ITK since then that Berbs was close to a return and actually preferred us to Monaco, but Tim blocked the move.

And yes, all accounts (including Kono's own words) suggest the deal to pool was very close, but the plug was pulled last minute by the Dnipro owner.
 
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