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It's not necessarily an error....
You beat me to it.
It's not necessarily an error....
I'm not trying to poop all over your party, but these kind of arguments bugs me slightly. "Great, everybody else sucks so we are doing quite well whilst sucking". Excuse me for having higher expectations for my team. Additionally, we haven't actually proven that we are able to close that gap. Every time we could we've stumbled our selves. It doesn't matter if it's 1 or 100 points, if a gap can't be closed, it means we were to poor.Spoiler Alert...
We are 2 points off Arsenal and 6 Points off 4th. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY TEAM PLAYING SHIT.
As you were.
Thought we had turned the corner with everton and chelsea performance but typical spurs we take two steps back.I challenge anyone on here to show me a single sign of improvement in our style of play from 1 year ago..... We have regressed and don't kid yourself otherwise under MP......
That's a new level of optimism.Amy Winehouse is more likely to turn a corner than us
Just cause others are playing shit doesn't mean we should accept our team playing shit.Spoiler Alert...
We are 2 points off Arsenal and 6 Points off 4th. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY TEAM PLAYING SHIT.
As you were.
I'm not trying to poop all over your party, but these kind of arguments bugs me slightly. "Great, everybody else sucks so we are doing quite well whilst sucking". Excuse me for having higher expectations for my team. Additionally, we haven't actually proven that we are able to close that gap. Every time we could we've stumbled our selves. It doesn't matter if it's 1 or 100 points, if a gap can't be closed, it means we were to poor.
And you may be right, but for the timing being, I think many of us feel that there is need for something more than simply time alone. There must be some tangible change or improvement before the general consensus is optimistic. I don't really think the CL-season has changed Spurs-fans too much. We weren't that much better at being fans in the 90's, there were simply fewer community outlets for our discontent. And yes, we are 6 points away from 4th, but we are also 6 points away from 14th. Nothing I've seen will change that short term.My point is that everyone is slitting their wrists and there is no point. Just sit back and go with the flow. We are not fighting relegation.
Getting champions league a few season back has ruined the fans expectations.
My point is that everyone is slitting their wrists and there is no point. Just sit back and go with the flow. We are not fighting relegation.
Getting champions league a few season back has ruined the fans expectations.
Yes, if we manage to hold on to a little perspective and patience, not turn on the manager/team, not demand his sacking creating more instability and allow time to mould the playing squad.
So yes we can..
If we're patient.
I know its banging the same old drum and its frustrating, but I think we have to suck it up for a while. Doesnt mean we have to be happy or overjoyed we are having to have this period. But to have a sense of perspective, thoughts to the future (and for the matter some of the shit in the recent past) etc while really judging what's going on and try and contain the negativity to an extent.
Post of the year.This. 100% this.
We have overachieved since Jol's days and now expectations are too high. Look at where we were before all the focus was put on to getting into the top 4.
There are at least 5 clubs that have the following compare to us;
More money
Bigger stadiums
Better players and bigger squads with more quality
Better managers
The attraction of CL football year in year out
They are; Man United (aside from this season), Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool to an extent.
We are the level below. Our expectations are too high for where we are. We are where we are for a reason.
We will turn a corner at some stage but Poch needs time, something we as fans and Levy are reluctant to ever give.
We al complain when Levy sacks a manager but we as fans are just as guilty of shouting for the manager to be sacked as soon as it starts going south.
For what its worth, I think if AVB was still in charge we'd have turned a corner last season and would be far better off than we are now.
At the moment we are worse under Poch than we were under Sherwood and that's a pretty damning indictment.
It's still too early to say that Poch can't turn it around though and I still largely don't blame him for our problems. I think he's inherited a squad of players who think they are better than they are and he needs to be given the chance to get rid of the chancers like Soldado, Lamela and Paulinho (plus about seven others) and bring in players he trusts and can work with.
If we don't get a significant number of fresh faces in January then I don't think we will turn a corner this season. The players we have are showing that by and large they simply aren't up to it.
Glad I checked.. I was going to say that one.We definitely don't look like we can take one
I think quite a few could see it going south to be fair.I suppose the biggest disappointment for me has been the exciting prospect of Poch improving under performing players has turned into the opposite
Poch didn't have a track record with trophies , but the glowing endorsements of the Soton players re how he'd improved them was quite striking .
We drooled at the prospect of him getting hold of our underperformers but several now seem worse than ever