The Mauricio Pochettino thread

Shadydan · Oct 29, 2019

bat-chain said:
If we were to win our next 4 league games would all this hostility towards MP fade?

What does he have to do to get people back on side?

Stop being stubborn, stop picking Eriksen and slowly diminish the malcontents, stop unnecessary rotating show some progress in his team selections and subs. If he starts doing that he'll win a lot of people over, even if we don't win people just want to see us play well as long as it leads to some sort of progression.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

bat-chain said:
If we were to win our next 4 league games would all this hostility towards MP fade?

What does he have to do to get people back on side?

He needs to change. He has to stop picking half arsed players and get some passion out on the pitch. I think fans would forgive a load of our bad results if they'd seen a bit more fight. Some of the players are putting in a shift and show that they care, but to be playing next to some of the others must be utterly demoralising.

mill · Oct 29, 2019

dimiSpur said:
Judging by this lot? Win the next game. That's the thing with fickle twats. You're only one game away from glory or despair.

Read through the thread that’s clearly not true

bat-chain · Oct 29, 2019

What about if he still picks Eriksen and Aurier now and again and gets results? I think there is a chance Eriksen might re-sign and that is why he is still trusted to an extent.

Shadydan · Oct 29, 2019

bat-chain said:
What about if he still picks Eriksen and Aurier now and again and gets results? I think there is a chance Eriksen might re-sign and that is why he is still trusted to an extent.

If we play well and win a lot of people will forgive and forget, he doesn't do himself any favours by picking want away players and we end up losing and playing shit, this is meant to be a painful rebuild so where's the rebuilding process?

Also more chance of Xhaka getting Arsenal POTY then Eriksen signing a new contract.

Jamturk · Oct 29, 2019

Full backs are the key in the modern game and we have probably the worst FB options in the whole league.

Whoever allowed this situation to arise needs sacking.

spursfan77 · Oct 29, 2019

Jamturk said:
Full backs are the key in the modern game and we have probably the worst FB options in the whole league.

I'm not sure about that but they definitely need upgrading on 100%

Whoever allowed this situation to arise needs sacking.

Seems like it's a bit of a mix of people depending on who you believe. But when we've identified it as a problem area ever since Walker was sold then it's definitely negligible that the position hasn't been even adequately addressed never mind done properly.

wrd · Oct 29, 2019

I'd love to know who made the decision between Perreira and Aurier to be honest.

Martinhotspur · Oct 29, 2019

Poch seems to want a team of robots. Buys players then he won't play then until he has knocked any bit of flair or creativity out of them. Slow turgid possession football that bores the tits off of you.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

bat-chain said:
What about if he still picks Eriksen and Aurier now and again and gets results? I think there is a chance Eriksen might re-sign and that is why he is still trusted to an extent.

He should pick the players who deserve to be playing. If Eriksen has an absolutely massive turnaround that might happen, but there's no evidence to suggest he gives a fuck any more. I think Aurier gets more stick than he deserves but we obviously need better. Back in the summer window I wanted us to get Meunier, Grimaldo/Telles, and Diarawa. Can't help thinking we might be in much better shape now if we had, but I guess in reality we'd still be waiting for them to get fit enough (?) or recover from a whole range of injuries they'd picked up in internationals.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

wrd said:
I'd love to know who made the decision between Perreira and Aurier to be honest.

I think Levy's cheque writing hand got the wobbles and we missed Pereira and then Aurier was a last minute panic buy.

jacko73 · Oct 29, 2019

I don't understand how this has escalated so quickly on this forum. What about our loyalty to Poch? Let me ask you if you had over performed in your job for 4 years, would you not expect that you were due a bit of leeway, especially as you had projected it to your boss's and shareholders (fans in this case)? I too think he made mistakes in the lead up to the final, but maybe it was his way of talking to us.

Our best team has been ripped apart and he recognised it. Here it is Hugo, walker, Toby, Vertonghen, Rose, Dembele, Wanyama, and then DESK. that back 6 has aged and got injured. Even Kane has slightly changed and Eriksen has definitely got worse, as has Alli. It's hard for us to recognise as the names have stayed the same, but they are not the old versions of themselves. Would it also be fair to say that Levy heard what Poch said but thought that you keep a good side together not rip it apart. that is why we have a problem now. How many of this team gets in the current top 5 teams?

We have a good coach and he is 46 years old, surly we stick with him and let him re build a side as we know he can get a tune out of players when he gets good young players. If we change we don't have that guarantee and that is why Levy will not change manager.

I think it was significant that Levy got bonds arranged for the full amount of debt that we knew about. as this means we are carrying 113 mill (pre tax that is 157 Mil), would it be safe to assume we did similar last year, yes it would as crowds were down, but we earned 40 mil more in the champions league. we are sitting on a "warchest" of cash. so that means we are ready to do deals.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

wrd said:
I'd love to know who made the decision between Perreira and Aurier to be honest.

The thing that gets me is that there's not much difference physically between Pereira and KWP and yet KWP apparently lacks in that department to play in the EPL. Yes, he's made a few mistakes, but name me a RB in our squad who doesn't do so repeatedly.

spurs mental · Oct 29, 2019

dimiSpur said:
I completely agree. But that still doesn't mean Sunday's performance was a shit-show!

It was better but it wasn't great. It could have been much better but he selected the wrong team, not for the first time this season.

walton · Oct 29, 2019

Jamturk said:
Full backs are the key in the modern game and we have probably the worst FB options in the whole league.

Whoever allowed this situation to arise needs sacking.

On first glance, i was like 'no chance', but then when you think about it, we really do have a relatively terrible FB pairing, and there's definitely an argument for them being th worst in the league...which is impressive when we had arguably the best FBs a few years back.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

jacko73 said:
I don't understand how this has escalated so quickly on this forum. What about our loyalty to Poch? Let me ask you if you had over performed in your job for 4 years, would you not expect that you were due a bit of leeway, especially as you had projected it to your boss's and shareholders (fans in this case)? I too think he made mistakes in the lead up to the final, but maybe it was his way of talking to us.

Our best team has been ripped apart and he recognised it. Here it is Hugo, walker, Toby, Vertonghen, Rose, Dembele, Wanyama, and then DESK. that back 6 has aged and got injured. Even Kane has slightly changed and Eriksen has definitely got worse, as has Alli. It's hard for us to recognise as the names have stayed the same, but they are not the old versions of themselves. Would it also be fair to say that Levy heard what Poch said but thought that you keep a good side together not rip it apart. that is why we have a problem now. How many of this team gets in the current top 5 teams?

We have a good coach and he is 46 years old, surly we stick with him and let him re build a side as we know he can get a tune out of players when he gets good young players. If we change we don't have that guarantee and that is why Levy will not change manager.

I think it was significant that Levy got bonds arranged for the full amount of debt that we knew about. as this means we are carrying 113 mill (pre tax that is 157 Mil), would it be safe to assume we did similar last year, yes it would as crowds were down, but we earned 40 mil more in the champions league. we are sitting on a "warchest" of cash. so that means we are ready to do deals.

It may have escalated quickly on here, but the rot set in a long time ago. People are now frustrated because Poch does the same thing over and over and over, and unsurprisingly get the same results. We now apparently have players unhappy with his tactics and set up as well as his training methods. This has taken a long time to reach this point and everybody seems to have had enough of his stubborn approachand lack of imagination. I'd love him to stay, but to do that he needs to change things up immediately, stop making the same mistakes and get players on the pitch who will give 100%.

jonnyp · Oct 29, 2019

jacko73 said:
I don't understand how this has escalated so quickly on this forum. What about our loyalty to Poch? Let me ask you if you had over performed in your job for 4 years, would you not expect that you were due a bit of leeway, especially as you had projected it to your boss's and shareholders (fans in this case)? I too think he made mistakes in the lead up to the final, but maybe it was his way of talking to us.

But wouldn't you try and do things differently if things were so clearly heading in the wrong direction and for such a long period of time instead of being completely stubborn and defensive about it? What Poch is now doing doesn't last long in the real world either - he'd probably been sacked long ago in my field.

I think the fact he hasn't is because Levy hasn't found the replacement yet.

Shadydan · Oct 29, 2019

walton said:
On first glance, i was like 'no chance', but then when you think about it, we really do have a relatively terrible FB pairing, and there's definitely an argument for them being th worst in the league...which is impressive when we had arguably the best FBs a few years back.

There's not, at all.

Dougal · Oct 29, 2019

Shadydan said:
There's not, at all.

There’s an argument for everything at the moment. Even this.

Japhet · Oct 29, 2019

Dougal said:
There’s an argument for everything at the moment. Even this.

No there's not.

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