Club Statement 19 Nov 19 - Pochettino leaves
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Saoirse
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I really don't think we'd turn our nose up. He may not have won anything in the end, but Poch did so much for us and will always be loved at Spurs. Hopefully Mourinho grows us, Poch returns and proves to be our Fergie after all.Im very excited for a few years from now when Poch wins a few trophies wherever, wants to come home and finish what he started and Mourinho wears out his welcome and SC, in typical SC fashion, turns it nose up on Poch. It’ll be funny to witness
ralvy
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No, I wasn't. I haven't been a Mourinho hater for my entire life, I just hated him when his Porto eliminated Deportivo La Coruña (a club I've been supporting since I was about 5 years old), then I saw him as a villain during his first spell at Chelsea and during his Real Madrid days (a club I've been hating since before I even knew the meaning of the word hate). But I actually kinda admired how he was able to win the PL at Chelsea upon his return to that detestable club, and his CL at Inter was one of the most memorable football masterpieces I've had the pleasure of witnessing.
So I think you need to stop trying to paint the whole SC community with that same brush.
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Nice blanket statement, but inherently incorrect.
I made several posts around the time pointing out that Mourinho's "failure" was Woodward's booby trap. He was hung out to dry by him. I used it to evidence how there was little reliability in thinking Poch would get backed at United.
Mourinho has always had his faults with him temperament, but I was a huge fan of his up until he took the Real job. The pressure of that changed him into a more extroverted complainer. The only reason why I would ever revel in Utd/Chelsea sacking him is exactly the same as when they sell their best players. The bloke wins football and isn't worried about doing it in a pretty way. Our recently trophy cabinet state is enough for me to think that's a good match for us currently - especially with his mere reputation keeping the likes of Kane invested.
Shadydan
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I used to back Poch when he used to come out with the comments about the FA and League cup and not prioritising it, I admired his ambition but in hindsight I think he could have been a bit more realistic and less honest. When you come out with statements like that in public (to be fair they were twisted a little but even so) it just gives the players an excuse to lose focus and not give 100% in the cups.
spursfan77
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Even if he believed it, don’t say it. Look at klopp, it’s obvious he doesn’t value the domestic cups but as far as I’m aware he doesn’t come out and say it. It just gives the players an excuse not to perform. Would Mourinho ever say the same thing? I’m not sure he would.
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Mauricio Pochettino opens up on Tottenham sacking and coaching vision
Former Tottenham Hotspur boss Mauricio Pochettino revealed that the Spurs hierarchy did not accept his managerial vision which led to his sacking. The Argentinian was dismissed last November.
spursfan77
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Mauricio Pochettino opens up on Tottenham sacking and coaching vision
Former Tottenham Hotspur boss Mauricio Pochettino revealed that the Spurs hierarchy did not accept his managerial vision which led to his sacking. The Argentinian was dismissed last November.www.dailymail.co.uk
The quotes aren’t bad at all but the spin put on it by the journalist is. I read them earlier direct from the article and they are fair.
What are you proud of?
R. To work in a technical body in which we feel mutual respect and admiration; leadership is exercised in a group. But I am more motivated and excited by what is coming.
Q. Do you feel like it?
A. They were never lost. The next day you stop working you already want to be in front of a footballer. It is the motor that moves you. And every day we are closer to being in a project.
Q. Do you demand a chance to win titles?
R. The coaches misapply that the project finds us. It seems that we demand a project. And not. It is to find a club, president or people who go hand in hand with the ideas we have and that we believe can bring you closer to success. When that offer arrives, we will all say yes.
Q. The Premier or LaLiga?
R. The Premier has taken advantage in the commercial, the marketing. But LaLiga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and the Bundesliga are also very powerful, similar. We adapt well to the Premier, but we are open to new challenges and opening another horizon would be enriching.
Q. And why do you think you fell on your feet in the Premier?
A. Because the proposal, the knowledge, the method and the philosophy are not as important as they were a couple of decades ago. With the Internet, the ability to analyze and obtain information has all been very closely matched. More than talking about knowledge, because everyone knows a lot, I would talk about how you transmit that message and how you release your personality; That makes working groups and teams work. We start from the basis, in any case, that the footballer is the epicenter of a club, where we must all build around him to express his talent on the field of play because without them it is impossible to win. And that this talent is at the service of the team.
Q. Isn't that easier in the Premier because there is money?
A. England has a different culture that opens its arms to any global investment. He was with City until a country came and bought it, Chelsea too ... This has had a lot to do with foreign investment, which has made it grow exponentially. Spain was reluctant and now a little less.
P. Although you opposed the globalization by betting on English players already from Southampton ...
R. It was not easy because one of the first things the president told me was that he signed me because he wanted the team to play as the Dream Team. He showed us a video of that Barça. "This is my philosophy ... Apply it!", He said ...
Q. What did you think?
R. That Messi, Xavi, Iniesta had to be brought ... But the most beautiful thing and what remains is that with those young and English players —Clyne, Lambert, Jay Rodríguez, Prowse, Cork, Lallana, Shaw, Chamberts—, we started to propose a different football. In the second season, in November, we had the possibility to put ourselves first playing against Arsenal. That attracted attention. It was not the way to press but how we played from behind, with positional attack, retrieve the ball high and attack fast. It was a change of mentality and it was seen that the English could do it. I think that together with Brendan Rodgers we changed a little the mentality of English football. And the arrival of Pep later cemented and settled everything because today, in any quarry in the world, what predominates is the capacity of that associative and positional game that has invaded world football. There is no longer the Menotti-Bilardo debate as in his time.
Q. Is it easier to work with a young person?
A. No, it is the same. We did come to Dele Alli, to Kane ... But also to Lloris, who after winning with France, left me the world cup in my office while I was at Tottenham. I enjoyed training and that's the key you have to play. Having great players is not incompatible with being humane.
Q. Is this how you earn respect?
A. You earn it with actions, not with what you say.
Q. Although missing it is easy. You were kicked out of Tottenham after five great years ...
A. We live in a resultist environment where it seems that all the things that have a good result are the ones that serve. But ... how do you measure what works or not? Only the one who wins or the one who exceeds expectations? After the Champions League final, four years in the top-4, two years without signing ..., a different management strategy was needed. Sometimes the vision of a coaching staff is not accepted by the club management. We anticipate what could happen. You need to fall, be down and then go up. But Tottenham made the decision to separate us after five and a half years. I understand that it is a long time.
P. Do you regret not having broken the contract for Madrid?
A. I was happy at Tottenham and I signed a contract. And we finished very well, the relationship is impeccable. I always say, without false humility, that we too have made mistakes that have led to what happened. Although we did expect a little more support or reassurance to reverse the situation. But the club line was going another way and there was wear; respite was needed from both sides.
Q. Why did you say in 2018 that before training for Barça you would go to your farm in Argentina?
A. We have to explain it well. I was in Barcelona that year and I met Bartomeu in a bar. We greeted each other because we were taking the children to the same school and we were talking for five minutes. That generated a rumor that set off alarms because there were more teams that wanted us, and when they asked me I wanted to settle it drastically; I did not want to disrespect Barcelona. You can say things differently. Espanyol has made a name for me. But I'm not arrogant and I didn't like making a statement like that. Maybe now he wouldn't because in life you never know what will happen.
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It was great, something for everyone; for those that want to blame Levy there wasn't a little quote about not sharing the same vision; for those that want to blame Poch; he admitted his mistakes. Everyone's a winner
RichieS
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Diplomatic as ever from Poche.
I'd love to know what his vision was though. Part of me thinks that he wanted to take a few steps back and rebuild again with younger players that he could mould in the same way he did before and that's what "the club" disagreed with. For him to suddenly be demanding £70m superstar signings seems too much of a departure from his history to me.
wrd
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Yeah I think he wanted to completely rebuild the squad and we're talking a massive overhaul of the vast majority of the team which is probably what soured his relationship with the squad in the end as he didn't shy away from letting them know that. I was personally of the opinion that he was more valuable than the players and was ready to endure a shit season if it meant we could do the overhaul with him in charge but logistically it's hard to justify keeping a manager over replacing seemingly 15 or so players over 2 seasons. Understandable why Levy went the direction he has.
Especially when there's a manager like Jose available who is saying he doesn't need much to compete which evidently seems true as I reckon he probably only needs 2/3 signings to make top 4 next season with the way we seem set up to play now and then we'll see what his 2nd full season brings.
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It's nice to hear from him and I'd like to see him back in management soon (although I'd much rather it abroad)
spursfan77
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In the article he says he’s open to going any of the major leagues
matthew.absurdum
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Not sure where I should put in SC. But Dembélé is currently struggling in the China League. I still believe that keeping Dembélé would not make a significant difference to our CL final result and our poor result this season (Not buying a DM replacement was).
Quotes from the Mirror report
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-admits-expected-more-22457292
"Only the one who wins or the one who exceeds expectations? After the Champions League final, four years in the top four, two years without signings ... a different management strategy was needed.
"Sometimes the vision of a coaching staff is not accepted by the club management. We knew what could happen.
"You need to fall, be down to then go up, but Tottenham made the decision to separate us after five and a half years. I understand that it is a long time."
Sounds like Poch was thinking of a complete rebuild from scratch as he believe he had gone as far as he can with this bunch and a few years out of the title or CL picture . This did not sit well with the board I guess given we just build a new stadium and had loans to pay off.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettino-admits-expected-more-22457292
"Only the one who wins or the one who exceeds expectations? After the Champions League final, four years in the top four, two years without signings ... a different management strategy was needed.
"Sometimes the vision of a coaching staff is not accepted by the club management. We knew what could happen.
"You need to fall, be down to then go up, but Tottenham made the decision to separate us after five and a half years. I understand that it is a long time."
Sounds like Poch was thinking of a complete rebuild from scratch as he believe he had gone as far as he can with this bunch and a few years out of the title or CL picture . This did not sit well with the board I guess given we just build a new stadium and had loans to pay off.
SheffieldAndy
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It’s sounding very much like that, complete rebuild. Agreed.
I can see why that didn’t sit well with the board, and I can imagine had it happened, there’d be a large portion of the fan base up in arms about it too.
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