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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

doctor stefan Freud

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I’ve just minced out of a Glee TV session with my daughter and stumbled onto this thread and I’m not convinced there’s much difference between the two
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It's a real shame if he's downed tools. He's simply never going to make it as a top player if he's not prepared to work hard, whichever team he ends up at.
 

Spurrific

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It's a real shame if he's downed tools. He's simply never going to make it as a top player if he's not prepared to work hard, whichever team he ends up at.

But we just know he is going to go somewhere else and fulfil his potential, and we’ll look like mugs as we always do. If something has the potential to make Spurs look like cucks, it will - Murphy’s law
 
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walworthyid

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I find situations like this, puzzling. To become an athlete and play/compete at the highest level, requires more than just natural talent. It requires commitment and hard work.

My better half was a very good athlete in multiple sports growing up (team and individual). She competed in high school state championships, the Junior Olympics and got full scholarship offers to division one universities here in the USA. She had to work and train extremely hard to get to that level, and even now, years on, she has the same attitude in both her professional life at work and her personal health and fitness. Fully committed and just naturally driven to give it her all.

So what I don’t get is how does an athlete get to a premier league players level (which is a massive step above my wife and athletes at her level), by being lazy? It’s never made sense to me.

Do they think they’ve ‘made it’ and therefore just take their foot off the gas? Were they always like this and managed to get sporting opportunities from a young age purely on ball skill but limited effort? If it was the latter, you’d think that they would have been weeded out before getting a chance with any half decent, professional football club.

So what’s the deal with him? It’s weird - knowing you’ve got ability to become truly world class in your sport, why wouldn’t you act like a professional and give it 100% to push on to the very top of your game?

Different sport but if you haven’t seen it and want to see an athlete who was a level above everyone around him, go and watch the Michael Jordan documentary ‘The Last Dance’. This is what you want to see and what I’d expect from a world class athlete. Even if you don’t like basketball, it’s an excellent documentary. I’m not saying he’s ever going to get to MJs level, but effort, and the drive/will to be a winner is what you expect and should be expected from all our players, especially the ones on £200k a week!
Because he has been able to get by that way so far in his career. In the prem not only do you have extremely talented players, but they are also incredibly fit and hard working. Ndombele's talent alone is nowhere near enough. In fact, if he went down a few divisions he would find it even harder because talent plays even less of a role. He would get completely embarrassed if he rocked up in league 2 playing the way he has for us. He needs to either up his fitness significantly or go and play back in France or Portugal or turkey or somewhere. He'd get eaten alive in Spain, germany or Italy.

He's like Lee Trundle, but just not as good!
 
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walworthyid

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But we just know he is going to go somewhere else and fulfil his potential, and we’ll look like mugs as we always do. If something has the potential to make Spurs look like cucks, it will - Murphy’s law
I dont think he will. He's just that sort of character. If you can't turn up when you are 23 and playing for a big club, when are you going to turn up?

Its a disgrace in my opinion. Im 46 and could get into better shape than him in a matter of weeks. Im very fit and probably fitter than him now, but bloody hell, if I could train with spurs on a daily basis I'd be on a different planet to where I am now.
 

JayB

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But we just know he is going to go somewhere else and fulfil his potential, and we’ll look like mugs as we always do. If something has the potential to make Spurs look like cucks, it will - Murphy’s law
Equally, he could wind up like Taarabt, who never lived up to his potential and only truly matured within the last year or so when he was in his early 30s and playing in a league that is miles below what he could have been capable of.
 

dtxspurs

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PrettyColors

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Yeah - his absence in preseason speaks volumes. Not sure if you could get odds on this but if N’Dombele plays another match for us I will certainly be surprised.
 

Montalbano

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Yeah - his absence in preseason speaks volumes. Not sure if you could get odds on this but if N’Dombele plays another match for us I will certainly be surprised.
You’re cherry picking.

How does his “absence in preseason” speak volumes when:

a) There is no real proof that he has been absent from preseason aside from not featuring in the friendly game against Ipswich.

b) There are many other first team members aside from Ndombele that did not feature last weekend and have yet to have been photographed at the training ground — Kane, Sissoko, Lamela, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Sanchez, Dier, Tanganga, Aurier. [Lamela posted a video of himself at the training ground today, but has not been featured in the club‘a content]

Aside from Kane, the reasons for these players absence in the preseason friendly / social media is unknown [even Kane’s Bahamas issue was media speculation]. Yet we’re not talking about all of their attitudes and discipline.

The speculation, accusations and sudden agenda towards Tanguy is remarkable. He could still be in rehab for the injury he finished the season with.

It’s funny how often those who are so sure of Tanguy’s horrible mentality never question Lamela’s, despite him having a significantly worse injury record than Ndombele through his 7 seasons at our club since 2013. Lamela has only played more Premier League minutes than Ndombele’s 1011 in 3 out of his 7 seasons at the club. He also was a record signing.
 
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Montalbano

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I’m not trying to deny recent ITK updates. But I find it ignorant to simply accept them all as truth and proceed to slander one of our players based on some secondhand information. He clearly has suffered through injury this season and therefore has had fitness issues. He also has had to adapt to a new league, city, language, and manager.

Is anyone actually surprised that the press immediately built a narrative involving Mourinho and Ndombele once our results went south? It is all a journalist’s dream. The platform to build on the juicy drama of Mourinho vs Pogba was perfectly set in stone. Mourinho’s Spurs were ravaged by injuries and began to have some poor results. So who else would the fiery Portugese want to fight with than a black, French, record signing midfielder that is “underperforming” in his team. Does this situation ring a bell? The Pogba saga gave this narrative instant credibility and believability to the masses. So many “sources” [which are probably mostly journalists] have likely regurgitated and morphed this story in hopes of being seen as an “insider with a big headline” or someone who “knew it all along” that almost no one knows the truth anymore.

He could truly be a shithead. I don’t know. But please don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
 
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doctor stefan Freud

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Hoddle wasn’t a maverick - justDry pure class
He would be extraordinary in the modern game. As a modern footballer he’d have a more developed athleticism but the skill set and vision to operate as a lethal number 10 with the ability to open up locked defences or initiate fast moving counter attacks. With two athletic, functional midfielders behind him, he’d be less a luxury item (as the England international set up saw him) and more a vital piece in any modern squad that looked to balance defensive rigidity with creative, dangerous attack.

Just imagine him in the same team as Kane- an absolute thing of beauty
 
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