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Trix

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Taking a manager who’s only managed in the Dutch league is arguably a riskier move than taking someone who’s had success in a number of different countries. Ange is better regarded at Celtic than any manager they’ve had in the last 20 years. He absolutely wasn’t on my list even a few weeks ago, but I don’t think I’d be much happier now with Slot.
I disagree, but it's not worth debating to be honest as it's only opinion and both have their degree of the unknown. Just giving my perspective as you asked the question(y)
 

E17yid

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No one has said that, just that most people would prefer to see attacking football. In today's game a posession based attacking style is favoured and if implemented correctly is often more successful.

Results are important and there needs to be a balance but it will be bloody refreshing after the last 3 years to go and watch us play and see us actually try to keep the ball and attack and create chances and be brave rather than just camp on the edge of our box all game.

The CL game where Conte brought on Sanchez when we needed a goal and Mason and Kane were both seen basically saying wtf are you doing said everything about how bad a fit Conte was for us and our club, its not Tottenham.

I really hope we can move towards a 4-3-3 and bring in some exciting high energy wingers and a creative n.o8/10 as one of the midfield 3.
Yes people have said that. Many people said it’s like it’s a Foregone conclusion that we’re going to start playing attacking football because we have this apparently super attacking coach. My argument is, and I think it’s pretty reasonable considering this is the biggest job he’s had in his career, is that we don’t actually know how he’s going to approach the job with us. Your post included the word “hope” when talking about formations and stuff which is a lot better as it leaves room for other possibilities unlike people speaking like it’s a fact we’re going to play attacking football. Massively deabtabe about what that actually means anyways but that’s for another time

The point was mainly about people in general not really caring about that though (even though they say they do) results is what peope will want especially if we’ve got an extremely top flight untested, inexperienced manager.

Basically we don’t know shit so might as well approach it like that rather than being disappointed about whatever happens when he takes over.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think his performances in Europe were the difference for me. Couple that with the fact he wasn't at the biggest club in a stronger league in Holland and had to completely rebuild after selling half the team the season before. Now this doesn't mean he's a better coach than AP(we simply don't know), but we have far more to go on and for me that made him a much safer bet.
I would've preferred Slot over AP but both have pros and cons, AP has a lot more experience.

Also AP rebuilt Celtic of sorts bringing in 10+ players in both seasons.

Big Q will be who will the DofF be to support him. Celtic made some very astute signings the last 2 seasons like : Juranovic, Furuhashi, Matt O'Riley, Jota, A.Johnston, Maeda. All great fits for Big Ange's 4-3-3. He'll be shopping in a bigger and better pond now but hopefully we can still find some gems like we used to rather than waste £60mil on Ndombele's etc.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Yes people have said that. Many people said it’s like it’s a Foregone conclusion that we’re going to start playing attacking football because we have this apparently super attacking coach. My argument is, and I think it’s pretty reasonable considering this is the biggest job he’s had in his career, is that we don’t actually know how he’s going to approach the job with us. Your post included the word “hope” when talking about formations and stuff which is a lot better as it leaves room for other possibilities unlike people speaking like it’s a fact we’re going to play attacking football. Massively deabtabe about what that actually means anyways but that’s for another time

The point was mainly about people in general not really caring about that though (even though they say they do) results is what peope will want especially if we’ve got an extremely top flight untested, inexperienced manager.

Basically we don’t know shit so might as well approach it like that rather than being disappointed about whatever happens when he takes over.
Just a very strange take mate, he's played attacking football at every single team he's been at, it is his philosophy, what is wrong with people trying to have a bit of hope and excitement.
 

robin09

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+ Attacking football
+ Speaks well, will be good to listen to
+ Won’t act like he’s some detached consultant who’s bigger than the club

- It’s a hugely risky appointment Jose and Conte couldn’t handle, it could make everyone say ‘i told you so’

I’d rather have hired others, but 100% looking forward to seeing his ideas and hearing his thoughts once he starts wearing Masons hoodie (maybe a couple of sizes up)
 

E17yid

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Just a very strange take mate, he's played attacking football at every single team he's been at, it is his philosophy, what is wrong with people trying to have a bit of hope and excitement.
And likelihood is he’ll approach it like that with us but that does not mean it will translate onto the pitch. In fact I’ll be amazed if it does straight away. Most key thing to this will be whether he can get the payers fully brought in from the off.

Nothing wrong with people expecting it even though they don’t know but then there’s nothing wrong with people trying to temper their expectations in case it doesn’t happen either.
 

St José Dominguez

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Yes people have said that. Many people said it’s like it’s a Foregone conclusion that we’re going to start playing attacking football because we have this apparently super attacking coach. My argument is, and I think it’s pretty reasonable considering this is the biggest job he’s had in his career, is that we don’t actually know how he’s going to approach the job with us. Your post included the word “hope” when talking about formations and stuff which is a lot better as it leaves room for other possibilities unlike people speaking like it’s a fact we’re going to play attacking football. Massively deabtabe about what that actually means anyways but that’s for another time

The point was mainly about people in general not really caring about that though (even though they say they do) results is what peope will want especially if we’ve got an extremely top flight untested, inexperienced manager.

Basically we don’t know shit so might as well approach it like that rather than being disappointed about whatever happens when he takes over.

Considering it’s how he wants to play the game, has spoken as such and has always attempted to do so makes the prediction pretty likely. I’d be astonished if he comes into the job here playing low block counter attack, don’t care if we have the ball, don’t care if we press high football.
I think you’re confusing fans being excited at the fact we’re going to be playing with attacking intent with whether we’re actually going to be able to execute it successfully. The latter for me is going to be decided with who we bring in because we don’t have anywhere near enough technical players in our squad. We can play high, push people forward, press and press but if you can’t keep the ball you’re going to be ripped to shreds on the counter.
 

mattstev2000

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JN was always going to be a very difficult sell especially with us not being in Europe at all next season, Poch back most of us agree was the right decision to not happen, Slot would've been great but we gave that a go and either didn't want to pay the 15-20mil compensation and/or Slot decided to stay and build on his project, Ange is a very good option and ticks a lot of boxes.

Reminds me of a big Aussie Martin Jol.

But we need to give him great support and time.

Hopefully a big overhaul of players to take place this summer.

Not sure you can say that considering he was comfortably first choice in the original poll. I think there are a vocal minority that 'don't want to go back' whatever that means but I think he would have been the most popular choice both on here and with the fans in the ground.
 

E17yid

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Considering it’s how he wants to play the game, has spoken as such and has always attempted to do so makes the prediction pretty likely. I’d be astonished if he comes into the job here playing low block counter attack, don’t care if we have the ball, don’t care if we press high football.
I think you’re confusing fans being excited at the fact we’re going to be playing with attacking intent with whether we’re actually going to be able to execute it successfully. The latter for me is going to be decided with who we bring in because we don’t have anywhere near enough technical players in our squad. We can play high, push people forward, press and press but if you can’t keep the ball you’re going to be ripped to shreds on the counter.
Yeah true, but when someone says “I just can’t wait to see attacking football again”’it kind of implies that this will be translated onto the pitch straight away and is the minimum they expect. I just think you need a lot things to come together for that to happen and imo you’re looking at a season of bedding shit in and getting players on board before you start seeing it.

The general point is people don’t really care about attacking football if you’re winning games anyway though, just like no one gives a shit if you’re playing like vintage Barcelona if you’re losing most of your games.
 

spursfan1991

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The Spurs social media warriors are having a meltdown with the imminent appointment of Ange. It is a pity but i think it was also inevitable as i believe these fans would have cried like babies no matter who we appointed as it is fashionable to hate every decision Levy/ENIC make.

I am going to be positive about Ange as i believe he fits the profile the club needs. An attacking manager, see's Spurs as a promotion so will value the job unlike Conte and Jose, he will work with Club signings.

Come on you Spurs.
 

Maxtremist

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The Spurs social media warriors are having a meltdown with the imminent appointment of Ange. It is a pity but i think it was also inevitable as i believe these fans would have cried like babies no matter who we appointed as it is fashionable to hate every decision Levy/ENIC make.

I am going to be positive about Ange as i believe he fits the profile the club needs. An attacking manager, see's Spurs as a promotion so will value the job unlike Conte and Jose, he will work with Club signings.

Come on you Spurs.
For as much as this forum can be a whole mess at times... I forget how reasonable it is in comparison to what you see on social media.

The reaction from some fans on there is embarrassing at times and kinda makes me understand why a lot of other fanbases hate us.

Very much agree with the bolded stuff. Obviously there's still a lot that needs to be fixed at this club and Ange could be a failure but it's not a bad appointment on the surface at least. Naturally never know what'll happen but seems like a good thing for the club
 

JCRD

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My first choice was always Poch but other than him, I didnt really have a preference, then again - not like we, as fans, can alter how things go.

Ange is a surprising choice but I am intrigued by him - he comes across well, he will help bring us together, he is likeable, he will motivate and he will clearly play attractive football. Having said that, if this was an appointment made by Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea - I think many of us would be laughing.

I know some fans are not happy but that is just down to expectation of what you think we re and what you expect Levy to be. Id rather Ange than say JN given what we can offer and what kind of Manager we needed. We would have had to make may concessions with JN and would have ended up in tears. At least with Ange, he will no doubt be more aligned and accepting of what we can do.

I am actually much happier and more comfortable with Ange than I was with Jose and that fucker Conte who always thought we were lucky to have him.
 

JCRD

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Yeah true, but when someone says “I just can’t wait to see attacking football again”’it kind of implies that this will be translated onto the pitch straight away and is the minimum they expect. I just think you need a lot things to come together for that to happen and imo you’re looking at a season of bedding shit in and getting players on board before you start seeing it.

The general point is people don’t really care about attacking football if you’re winning games anyway though, just like no one gives a shit if you’re playing like vintage Barcelona if you’re losing most of your games.

I dont think the issue was about attacking football. The issue is with competitive football. We weren't going out to compete to win. We were sitting ducks waiting to concede before we start the second halves. As for Jose, that was worse than Contes football.
 

greaves

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Yeah true, but when someone says “I just can’t wait to see attacking football again”’it kind of implies that this will be translated onto the pitch straight away and is the minimum they expect. I just think you need a lot things to come together for that to happen and imo you’re looking at a season of bedding shit in and getting players on board before you start seeing it.

The general point is people don’t really care about attacking football if you’re winning games anyway though, just like no one gives a shit if you’re playing like vintage Barcelona if you’re losing most of your games.
Yep. I think most well-balanced people will not expect things to change immediately. (How well-balanced fans actually are is another issue, but that has nothing to do with the manager) If he is humble, honest, ambitious, with a sense of energy and affability (someone at ease with themselves and others, and emotionally intelligent) this is a good start. And he will be given more time than managers who do not have these qualities, or where these qualities are not so evident.
 
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