Christian Benteke

[Spurs1960]

falcao has scored 19 la liga goals, but 6 were from the penalty spot and 8 were in two games against depor and bilbao. so does that mean only 5 of his goals count?

Yes. A striker who can only score in 5 or 6 games isn't going to improve your side. Simply looking at how many goals have been scored and you are looking at false statistics, you have to look behind them at the story.

 

[Blake Griffin]

i think you're getting massively caught up in numbers and that's not even half the point when looking at a player(even more so when they're only 21/22). i've come across as a massive christian benteke fanboy in this thread but i'm not, i like him for sure but people on here are buring their heads in the sand when it comes to who we can attract to the club, even if levy said we can spend £30m on a striker, most £30m strikers will demand wages above what we can afford and even then i think there is a shortage of actual quality strikers out there. so you either buy a proven decent striker or you buy a young striker with big potential and in benteke's case he's at least fairly proven already and fits the exact mould of what we look for in a player.

 

[Spurs1960]

It's a question of if you you want to keep your best players and succeed or buy the Benteke's of this world and watch them leave.

Players will not wait around for other players to become good, if they ever do. When it comes to strikers you have to buy proven quality when near the top of the league.

Look at how many strikers Arsenal have bought and failed with.

I'm not getting caught up in numbers, I'm merely using them to show he is not of sufficient quality to be a target for a team wanting to be in the Champions League every season.

Financial Fair Play rules mean clubs can no longer afford to pay massive wages, Inter sold Sneijder because they couldn't afford his wages. The situation is not as bleak as the scaremongers would have you believe.

Any striker we buy simply has to be better than we have unless we want to finish 6th or lower each season. A striker is everything to a team and so you must get the best you possibly can.

 

[BillyWhizz]

We have signed quality players like Lloris, Vertonghen etc for affordable prices so why can't we do it again? Lopez from Lyon is nearing his contract end so who knows?

Personally I don't see Benteke as AVB's type, more power than technique and skill which doesn't really seem to fit with the tactics and style I've read he likes and has always tried to play.

 

[Blake Griffin]

It's a question of if you you want to keep your best players and succeed or buy the Benteke's of this world and watch them leave.

Players will not wait around for other players to become good, if they ever do. When it comes to strikers you have to buy proven quality when near the top of the league.

Look at how many strikers Arsenal have bought and failed with.

I'm not getting caught up in numbers, I'm merely using them to show he is not of sufficient quality to be a target for a team wanting to be in the Champions League every season.

Financial Fair Play rules mean clubs can no longer afford to pay massive wages, Inter sold Sneijder because they couldn't afford his wages. The situation is not as bleak as the scaremongers would have you believe.

Any striker we buy simply has to be better than we have unless we want to finish 6th or lower each season. A striker is everything to a team and so you must get the best you possibly can.

we are rarely able to buy established proven quality players. we lucked out on vdv as madrid wanted rid and we took advantage of lyon's financial problems and the fact that other top sides already had goalkeepers in place so we could get lloris. generally we have to buy young players with big potential and hope they make it, that is how the club is run and will continue to do so. i bet you'd love falcao or cavani for example but remind me of what they were doing aged 21? who's to say benteke cannot become that quality of player?

give me some names of strikers you'd want us to buy instead and please keep it realistic.

 

[Spurs1960]

we are rarely able to buy established proven quality players. we lucked out on vdv as madrid wanted rid and we took advantage of lyon's financial problems and the fact that other top sides already had goalkeepers in place so we could get lloris. generally we have to buy young players with big potential and hope they make it, that is how the club is run and will continue to do so. i bet you'd love falcao or cavani for example but remind me of what they were doing aged 21? who's to say benteke cannot become that quality of player?

give me some names of strikers you'd want us to buy instead and please keep it realistic.

I'm not saying he can't just that we can't wait for him to achieve it or we'll be playing for 8th and not 3rd or 4th.

We have only recently got ourselves into the position where we can look to improve again. We are consistently challenging and gambling with that buy buying potential is not the way forward. The club have already stated they will only buy better than we have and I totally agree with the club.

 

[Blake Griffin]

I'm not saying he can't just that we can't wait for him to achieve it or we'll be playing for 8th and not 3rd or 4th.

We have only recently got ourselves into the position where we can look to improve again. We are consistently challenging and gambling with that buy buying potential is not the way forward. The club have already stated they will only buy better than we have and I totally agree with the club.

well we're challenging for 3rd and 4th with two strikers who between them have managed about as many goals as benteke so why would we suddenly start playing for 8th with him in the team?

 

[Spurs1960]

Because he has only scored in 6 games. He misses hatfull's of chances and costs his side a lot of points. He has a good game, 2 bad ones, a good and people get blinded when he scores a couple of goals. Three of his goals are from the penalty spot so he has only scored 8 goals.

Our goals have not come from the penalty spot either.

Sorry but I support the clubs stated approach to strikers.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Because he has only scored in 6 games. He misses hatfull's of chances and costs his side a lot of points. He has a good game, 2 bad ones, a good and people get blinded when he scores a couple of goals. Three of his goals are from the penalty spot so he has only scored 8 goals.

Our goals have not come from the penalty spot either.

Sorry but I support the clubs stated approach to strikers.

which is what? bid for damiao every window and fail?

 

[CJMurray]

Yes. A striker who can only score in 5 or 6 games isn't going to improve your side. Simply looking at how many goals have been scored and you are looking at false statistics, you have to look behind them at the story.

Are you saying that Falcao wouldn't improve our team?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Since when did penalties not count as goals?

Jesus H Christ.

 

[dontcallme]

Was RVP the finished article when he signed for Arsenal? Was Bale, Modric, Carrick and Sandro when they signed for us?

Giroud was the top scorer in the French league last season. Buying the 'finished article' hasn't turned into instant results.

It's pretty rare for teams to buy a striker who joins and fits into the team and plays at the top of his game from the off.

If Benteke has raw ability and our coaches believe they can transition him into our team then I'd happily see him sign for us.

 

[Mr Pink]

I think Benteke looks absolute quality. Sure he's still a little raw and his form is a bit patchy because of it, but I definitely see the talent. He'll get better, mark my words.

 

[tony_parkes]

Since when did penalties not count as goals?

Jesus H Christ.

Neither do tap ins or toe pegs, Norris Mcwhirter is posthumously spinning in his grave whilst wondering if Jason Cundy's strike against Ipswich will now mean he has scored more real goals for Spurs than either Linekar or Greaves. Update soon.

 

[Spurs1960]

which is what? bid for damiao every window and fail?

Don't buy worse than we have.

 

[Spurs1960]

Since when did penalties not count as goals?

Jesus H Christ.

Anybody can score a penalty, it doesn't take a striker to do it. If you add 3 penalties to our strikers he looks even worse. Fact is he is step down and not good enough to get us Champions League football next season, therefore we must look elsewhere.

He has scored 8 times from 74 shots, Hernandez at Man U has scored 8 goals from 31 shots.

The club have stated we will only buy a striker who is better then we have.

He doesn't fit that profile.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Anybody can score a penalty, it doesn't take a striker to do it. If you add 3 penalties to our strikers he looks even worse. Fact is he is step down and not good enough to get us Champions League football next season, therefore we must look elsewhere.

He has scored 8 times from 74 shots, Hernandez at Man U has scored 8 goals from 31 shots.

The club have stated we will only buy a striker who is better then we have.

He doesn't fit that profile.

So this fabled '20 goal a season' striker that every team in the world is looking for is only that if he doesn't score penalties and every one of his goals is scored in separate games?

And how on earth can you compare Benteke to Hernandez? Benteke plays for a team at the bottom of the league, who has to create his own opportunities and take risks with potshots from outside the box as he doesn't get things laid on a plate while playing against normally tired defences like Hernandez does.

I find this argument quite bizarre to be honest mate and your dismissive theory towards penalties even worse.

 

[Spurs1960]

Didn't realise Aston Villa only played with a goalkeeper and a striker, thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to tune into their next game, there should be a lot of goals!

 

[mill]

I'm not saying he can't just that we can't wait for him to achieve it or we'll be playing for 8th and not 3rd or 4th.

We have only recently got ourselves into the position where we can look to improve again. We are consistently challenging and gambling with that buy buying potential is not the way forward. The club have already stated they will only buy better than we have and I totally agree with the club.

I noticed you ignored the bit about names of strikers we can sign, funny that

 

[The Journalist]

still can't believe some questioning benteke.

be interesting to hear those who dont rate him views on Lukaku.
as benteke has replaced lukaku in the belgium starting 11.
and although 3 years older than lukaku he only cost less than a third in price.
and betenke has outscored him all levels of international football.
look there full international goals; benteke 4 in 10. lukaku 3 in 19.