Ghost Hardware
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I wrote the below in answer to your question but then got sidetracked. Your question has probably been answered 10 x by if you’re bored feel free to read the long winded answer below… or if you have 101 better things to do on Friday night like alphabetise your vast array of “tools” then feel free to ignore.I'm sorry but I have almost no idea what people are banging on about with this Numberwang malarkey.
Can someone please educate me and every other normal person for whom this latest fad has passed by with a breakdown?
I mean, we’re not completely unaware, we know number one is a goalie
But come on, fucking hell, this is just the latest hipster bollocks really isn’t it and the trouble with it is, ‘normals’ don’t have a clue what you’re on about
In the most basic way a 6 in the context of the thread is a defensive midfielder and and 8 is a central midfielder.
Obviously it’s significantly more complex than that as there are numerous types of DM’s such as Anchors (DM who sit deep and rarely move from their position) and Registas (a deep lying playmaker who has defensive responsibilities) as there are CM’s such as Box to Box (a hard worker who will be both attacking and defensive minded essentially occupying the space from our box to theirs.) or Mezzela (a half winger Ie a player that tucks into midfield but will look to take the ball wide to create width) But that’s just going down the rabbit hole as there are plenty more. Really there are numerous “roles” for every position on the pitch.
Sometimes these roles are very much implemented by a manager others are derived by a players skill set. A good example of this is Dele Ali who as he developed struggled to find the perfect role for himself. He wasn’t really a creative midfielder so couldn’t really play the AM/10 role in a traditional capacity but he wasn’t strong enough defensively to play as a CM. Ultimately his best role was probably that of a Shadow Striker. Essentially a player that would line up in midfield behind the 9 but would look to occupy spaces just off the shoulder of the 9 in the oppositions box. He’d do this by sitting quite high up the pitch, ghosting into the box and find pockets of space in a defenders blind spot. From there he would ether look to score or play a simple pass to the striker. Essentially it’s a role that needs to be carried by the rest of the team as he’s still a midfielder rather than a CF yet is primarily focused on attack. Furthermore this isn’t a creative player and shouldn’t be relied on for creating opportunities. It’s an incredibly niche role that requires a specific squad set up to make work. I haven’t seen enough of Havatz since he has been at Chelsea and Arsenal but from what I have he seems to be a similar type of player.
Anyway sorry for the digression. Point is that it’s never as simple as 6 or 8 or 10 or DM or CM or AMC but essentially it’s a shorter short hand.
Also you can play a 6 in CM the same way you can play a 10 in CM rather than as an AM (attacking midfield) this is where more specific roles as pointed out comes into play.
Essentially the debate over the last few pages has been about Bentancur being better as a defensive midfielder or a central midfielder and in tern if we should actually be looking at Gallagher due to him being a CM.
I bet you wish you hadn’t wasted your time reading this and no I shall not be refunding you the minutes waisted. I did warn you
Obviously it’s significantly more complex than that as there are numerous types of DM’s such as Anchors (DM who sit deep and rarely move from their position) and Registas (a deep lying playmaker who has defensive responsibilities) as there are CM’s such as Box to Box (a hard worker who will be both attacking and defensive minded essentially occupying the space from our box to theirs.) or Mezzela (a half winger Ie a player that tucks into midfield but will look to take the ball wide to create width) But that’s just going down the rabbit hole as there are plenty more. Really there are numerous “roles” for every position on the pitch.
Sometimes these roles are very much implemented by a manager others are derived by a players skill set. A good example of this is Dele Ali who as he developed struggled to find the perfect role for himself. He wasn’t really a creative midfielder so couldn’t really play the AM/10 role in a traditional capacity but he wasn’t strong enough defensively to play as a CM. Ultimately his best role was probably that of a Shadow Striker. Essentially a player that would line up in midfield behind the 9 but would look to occupy spaces just off the shoulder of the 9 in the oppositions box. He’d do this by sitting quite high up the pitch, ghosting into the box and find pockets of space in a defenders blind spot. From there he would ether look to score or play a simple pass to the striker. Essentially it’s a role that needs to be carried by the rest of the team as he’s still a midfielder rather than a CF yet is primarily focused on attack. Furthermore this isn’t a creative player and shouldn’t be relied on for creating opportunities. It’s an incredibly niche role that requires a specific squad set up to make work. I haven’t seen enough of Havatz since he has been at Chelsea and Arsenal but from what I have he seems to be a similar type of player.
Anyway sorry for the digression. Point is that it’s never as simple as 6 or 8 or 10 or DM or CM or AMC but essentially it’s a shorter short hand.
Also you can play a 6 in CM the same way you can play a 10 in CM rather than as an AM (attacking midfield) this is where more specific roles as pointed out comes into play.
Essentially the debate over the last few pages has been about Bentancur being better as a defensive midfielder or a central midfielder and in tern if we should actually be looking at Gallagher due to him being a CM.
I bet you wish you hadn’t wasted your time reading this and no I shall not be refunding you the minutes waisted. I did warn you
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