David Raya

[Timberwolf]

It’ll be a January £20m move if nobody wants to pay more now. Raya might even do well to drag it out and leave for free.

Feel like keeper moves in Jan are very rare, though. Teams want a settled no.1 at the start of the season.

I guess if there's a bargain available like Raya it changes things, but Jan is a much worse selling market for Brentford IMO.

 

[Yid-ol]

Feel like keeper moves in Jan are very rare, though. Teams want a settled no.1 at the start of the season.

I guess if there's a bargain available like Raya it changes things, but Jan is a much worse selling market for Brentford IMO.

Will be much worse next July if they don't though!! As in £0

 

[DiVaio]

Liverpool knew Karius was a liability and they had to go out and strengthen the GK situation. They spent big and won the damn CL.

They spend big on Alisson who was possibly the best goalkeeper that season, was younger than Raya, was proven also in CL and World Cup, had another 3 years of contract and was also wanted by Chelsea and Real.
I really don't see any similarity to what happened here with Raya. And I'm pretty sure we would be ok with spending big on let's say Maignan.

 

[mil1lion]

It's more like us being stubborn over Kane's price if we'd already bought in an obvious replacement, though. Having bought a replacement for 11m they've made a rod for their own back as everyone knows they need to sell Raya whereas we genuinely seem happy to let Kane run his contract down.

Brentford are entitled to do whatever they want but from a strategic POV, when you only have 1 or 2 clubs that are interested, it's quite a dangerous game they're playing if they're not willing to bend on the fee.

Raya simply isn't worth 40m and the alleged 33m fee we were offering is likely as good as they were ever going to get offered this summer. As things stand they're basically gambling on United (or maybe Chelsea) coming in and overpaying or else they're pissing a lot of money down the toilet or selling him for a severely reduced fee at the end of the window.

Well we spent 60m on a striker last year as competition. 11m is not too much for a premier league team to spend on a keeper. If they end up with 2 keepers it's not the end of the world. I'm sure they will sell him but I wouldn't say they really need to sell. I think they can hold out and someone will pay a good fee for him rather than wait a year. It's still so early in the window I don't see them being worried.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for him? He looks set on coming to us but Brentford just not giving in and he's losing the chance now to Vicario. Not that I'm complaining when we are acting decisively. Shows Brentford who's the bigger club.

 

[dontcallme]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for him? He looks set on coming to us but Brentford just not giving in and he's losing the chance now to Vicario. Not that I'm complaining when we are acting decisively. Shows Brentford who's the bigger club.

It's the negotiation stage. Best to wait until the end of the window or a deal is finalised before coming to conclusions.

 

[yido_number1]

It's the negotiation stage. Best to wait until the end of the window or a deal is finalised before coming to conclusions.

Vicario looks done. Romano only calls the tap ins like this one. Only way would be if the other club raise the price and scupper the deal.

 

[aliyid]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for him? He looks set on coming to us but Brentford just not giving in and he's losing the chance now to Vicario.

Heart breaking for the lad, genuine opportunity to take that next step into a top half team with an almost guaranteed starting place (much bigger thing for GK than other positions).

Now more likely to go the Martinez / Pickford route and scrap away in mid table / lower half or back overseas

 

[SandroClegane]

Raya's main strength is his long direct passing, no?

If Ange ONLY wants us to play from the back and his methodology is as rigid as he says, wouldn't that directly negate Raya's main strength?

To me, it seems like Raya was more of the Levy pick, and Vicario was Ange/scouts saying "this is what will actually work best".

 

[Sierragls]

From him? It's worth fuck all. In industrial quantities.

#beeinmybonnet

Looks like it was worth something then!

 

[Riandor]

Well it's possible both Chelsea and/or Man UTD might still want him and be more prepared to pay.

 

[rawhide]

That's my point mate, it wasn't prudent. They went out and spent what was needed to get their no1 choices in both positions.

Chelsea did this with a GK - Twice. And they’re still looking for a long term Number 1.

Just because it worked for Liverpool doesn’t mean we should just blindly follow their model.

Times have changed, prices have changed, demand is different, our financial position is different as is our League position.

 

[Timberwolf]

Raya's main strength is his long direct passing, no?

If Ange ONLY wants us to play from the back and his methodology is as rigid as he says, wouldn't that directly negate Raya's main strength?

To me, it seems like Raya was more of the Levy pick, and Vicario was Ange/scouts saying "this is what will actually work best".

It's more Raya's mid-range passing that's super strong IMO. While they might come under 'long passes' in the stats his real strength isn't when he proper hoofs it up the pitch to the big man, its when he picks out a wing back or a midfielder with a pin-point 20-30 yard pass - he's amazing at that and would be definitiely beneficial for an Ange team since it can bypass the opposition press once we draw them in with the short passing.

I think Raya and Vicario are pretty similar and Raya ticks a couple more boxes (homegrown, better passer) hence we were willing to shell out a bit more for him (high 20s, low 30s). But when Brentford held firm on 40m we wisely moved onto option number 2 who is almost as good for half the price.

 

[TropicalYid]

Raya is a good GK but im kind of happy the club didnt give in to brentfords 40m price tag. Thats crazy with one year left on contract.
Have a good feeling about vicario.

 

[eddiev14]

Sigh… course they are

 

[gavspur]

Sigh… course they are

Where’s the need for him there tho? They have a solid #1, would Raya want to go there to be on the bench? Doesn’t make a lot of sense. I do wonder if we would possibly go back in for him, depending on how Vicario does in pre-season?

 

[HildoSpur]

Sigh… course they are

Why the sigh? Who gives a fuck?

 

[Stamford]

Club acts like big club shocker

 

[George94]

Why the sigh? Who gives a fuck?

it’s just frustration - they’re looking to sign players we thought were too expensive as competition for their first XI

 

[Montalbano]

Lol they’re dunking on us here.