Dimitar Berbatov

[diegooners]

Having a high opinion of ones abilities does not mean that one cannot appreciate the merits of others. There is a key distinction between self confidence and hubristic arrogance, namely the ability to appreciate the work of other's as well as your own. Berbatov has done this throughout his time with the Mancs. He's a strange fish, no doubt, but he's no egotist. Ibrahimovic is a good example of an egotist, as is Jamie O'Hara, incidentally. Berbatov is merely someone who know's the talent he possesses, plays the way he plays, and does his job. He complained far less than Defoe last season despite having been the top scorer in the league the season before.

He's a wanker.[/quote]

Me?

 

[EastLondonYid]

He's a wanker.

Me?[/quote]

you tell me?...i was referring to Berba, what you do is upto you

 

[karennina]

Jol wanted rid of him five years ago because he was acting like a total **** behind the scenes. (We all thought it was just his clown of an agent talking up the move, more fool us.) Levy said no, because it was too late in the window—in view of what happened a year later, this was pretty funny. Berbatov then sulked until Jol was removed.

Absolutely not, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm pretty sure Levy will feel the same.

Really? I wouldn't expect anyone to look up anything on a subject this inconsequential. But I remember the opposite, Jol said he understood and agreed with Berbatov's view that being on the same level as the best strikers in the world, Eto for example, he had as much right as them to play for one of the best teams. (Whatever that paraphrased 'right' actually amounts/amounted to, who knows ?) In the absence of compelling contrary evidence which I'm too lazy to look up, I'm going to carry on believing stuff happened along those lines.

He'd want to be first choice, and he'd be admittedly probably be too miserable if Ade was instead. But perhaps he wouldn't strop, just sulk

 

[Francis Gibbs]

too much history with Levy for this to happen in my opinion but personally would have no trouble if he did come back but cant see it

 

[SpurSince57]

Really? I wouldn't expect anyone to look up anything on a subject this inconsequential. But I remember the opposite, Jol said he understood and agreed with Berbatov's view that being on the same level as the best strikers in the world, Eto for example, he had as much right as them to play for one of the best teams. (Whatever that paraphrased 'right' actually amounts/amounted to, who knows ?) In the absence of compelling contrary evidence which I'm too lazy to look up, I'm going to carry on believing stuff happened along those lines.

He'd want to be first choice, and he'd be admittedly probably be too miserable if Ade was instead. But perhaps he wouldn't strop, just sulk

I wouldn't either.

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

Burned his bridges big time last time, I think he would do well for us but I would be surprised if levy ever considers the idea

 

[TaoistMonkey]

I'd take him back in a heartbeat. The guy was a genius.

Anyone who thinks we're now all of a sudden to good for him you need you bloody head checked!

 

[EastLondonYid]

I'd take him back in a heartbeat. The guy was a genius.

Anyone who thinks we're now all of a sudden to good for him you need you bloody head checked!

I wonder why Fergie hardly played him last year and then wants him out at a 25m loss? he must need his head tested too

 

[tttcowan]

Leaving your emotions out of it. It's hard not to see berbs and ade for a combined fee of 10 million as anything other than a stunning bit of business.

 

[kythg]

This would be a very pragmatic, and sensible move. If you remove emotion from the equation, this is a classic Levy deal and could be really beneficial for Spurs.

He's a class, experienced player that will be a great back up for Ade and a good tutor for the younger strikers. We need someone who can actually put a ball in the net!
Besides, what I saw of him last night for United, he looked good in a deeper role. Sharp, like he had something to prove.

 

[hoodlum]

Easy to say that, but where are the two strikers we've got that are better than him. Honestly I don't think anyone would pick Defoe, Kane or Coulibaly ahead of him, so we'd have to sign 2 better strikers than him for him to be 3rd choice. The lack of possible top class strikers that we seem to be able to get is a little concerning.

I meant with the intentions of buying two new strikers to occupy the 1st and 2nd spots

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

We got the best out of him the first time around.

He is past his best now and would be a backwoods step in my opinion.

We should be looking for the 'next Berbatov' not going back for has-beens. I'm sure if Harry was still in charge he would be all over it but not under the new regime.

 

[EZSpur]

We got the best out of him the first time around.

He is past his best now and would be a backwoods step in my opinion.

We should be looking for the 'next Berbatov' not going back for has-beens. I'm sure if Harry was still in charge he would be all over it but not under the new regime.

I completely agree with this.
The fact is, we brought him to the premiership, helped to develop his game and got him to a standard which ultimately made him a very attractive option to teams like Man Utd.

But, since then (be it down to his overall laziness, lack of motivation, whatever it may be) he really seems to have taken a step back and frankly if he's not good enough for Man Utd, then surely he's also not good enough for us anymore too.

....no malice towards the player at all - IMO thats all water under the bridge.

 

[EZSpur]

This would be a very pragmatic, and sensible move. If you remove emotion from the equation, this is a classic Levy deal and could be really beneficial for Spurs.

He's a class, experienced player that will be a great back up for Ade and a good tutor for the younger strikers. We need someone who can actually put a ball in the net!
Besides, what I saw of him last night for United, he looked good in a deeper role. Sharp, like he had something to prove.

You're right, he's definitely a classy player and he's got all the skills to make it work, BUT his attitude, overall workrate and general personality is an issue for me.
The last thing our squad needs is a prima donna - someone to unsettle the players and structure.

Its a NO from me Bob!

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

We got the best out of him the first time around.

He is past his best now and would be a backwoods step in my opinion.

We should be looking for the 'next Berbatov' not going back for has-beens. I'm sure if Harry was still in charge he would be all over it but not under the new regime.

It is only a season ago that he was top scorer in the premiership and didn't he have a high average last season for the games he played?

On playing ability it is a no brainer but he comes with way too much baggage and burnt too many bridges with us to risk taking him back

 

[Mr Pink]

In terms of ability I would have him back as back up for Ade, competition etc to lead the line, but I just can't see it even being considered if I'm honest....too much water under the bridge.

In any case, he would be expecting to be first choice and that wouldn't sit well with most.

 

[kythg]

In terms of ability I would have him back as back up for Ade, competition etc to lead the line, but I just can't see it even being considered if I'm honest....too much water under the bridge.

In any case, he would be expecting to be first choice and that wouldn't sit well with most.

I just can't see Levy caring about 'water under the bridge' all that much. I doubt he takes much personally when it comes to footballers and their 'ambitions'. I can see him not liking the age though, at 31 that's pretty much a 5m loss plus wages. I still think it would be an astute signing though.

 

[lillywhites61]

It is only a season ago that he was top scorer in the premiership and didn't he have a high average last season for the games he played?

On playing ability it is a no brainer but he comes with way too much baggage and burnt too many bridges with us to risk taking him back

I am torn on the idea. He is a class player but I don't see why united would be so willing to let him go and why they play everyone ahead of him game after game if he still has it in his locker.

If he is still capable the fantastic, what I don't see him doing is what Ade did last season an that was run his socks off to every area of the pitch. Ade work rate was excellent mostly and I don't see Berbs doing that at all. He doesn't look to have it in him now.

I think if he came in he would be in a similar position to what he is in united. A better club for him would be the slower paced a c milan, they need a new striker and I think he would suit there very well

 

[base615]

I'd have no problem with it personally but after what happened I'd say it would be unlikely that Levy and a large number of our supporters would accept it. Would be a good move though in my opinion and he might have been knocked down a peg or two in the ego department by getting splinters in his arse over the last few years. I think he'd still bang them in as shown by his 7 goals in 5 games or whatever he got last year and being the league's top scorer the year before despite hardly playing.

Then again, we saw what happened when Keane came back. Maybe we should just remember that he was good for us once and leave it there.

 

[VincenzoCoccotti]

I am torn on the idea. He is a class player but I don't see why united would be so willing to let him go and why they play everyone ahead of him game after game if he still has it in his locker.

If he is still capable the fantastic, what I don't see him doing is what Ade did last season an that was run his socks off to every area of the pitch. Ade work rate was excellent mostly and I don't see Berbs doing that at all. He doesn't look to have it in him now.

I think if he came in he would be in a similar position to what he is in united. A better club for him would be the slower paced a c milan, they need a new striker and I think he would suit there very well

I think it is a case of he doesn't gel with Rooney, Rooney will always be an automatic starter when fit and rightly so

Rooney is truly world class