Disgusted

[Chimbo!]

it is just football, nothing personal. It is the same in any league in the world.

 

[RickyVilla]

I was so mad last night I am lucky to still have my laptop in one piece. I expected to lose but to concede a goal like that was extra frustrating!! Grrrrr

 

[PT]

We are good at feeling sorry for our lot when we feel hard done by but -

Gomes should have played to the whistle..and didn't. He is at fault for this farcical episode, even if it should have been a freekick for handball. It wasn't given. No whistle was heard. Gomes should have cleared his lines or held on to the ball.

 

[Bristol Coys]

just to add to what has already been said.

First half Nani tripped up his own feet, dived and tried to claim a penalty. Simulation by the rules of the game = 1st Yellow card.

2nd Half: Nani dives again. again no penalty given, Nani rolls around and then deliberately handles the ball TWICE stopping the game from continuing quickly (Time wasting). Perm any offense from 4 for a 2nd yellow card. Instead his reward is a cheap goal.

During the protest, I was proud that our players showed self restraint and in accordance with the rules of the game, did not harrang or crowd around the officials while they consulted. Meanwhile Rio 'Coco' Ferdinand towered over them and continually shouted at them while they were talking. After the ref wrongly overruled the linesman's handball call, dear Rio launched a sustained volley of abuse at the linesman. Yet it is Modric making a restrained plea for common sense that goes in the book.

We are often accused of being naive and needing to learn lessons. The lesson is; ignore the rules, intimidate the officials like ManUre, Chavski and Arse-nil do and decisions will go your way. :-(
Will the FA take action. No! They will do Sweet FA.

 

[Wsussexspur]

We are good at feeling sorry for our lot when we feel hard done by but -

Gomes should have played to the whistle..and didn't. He is at fault for this farcical episode, even if it should have been a freekick for handball. It wasn't given. No whistle was heard. Gomes should have cleared his lines or held on to the ball.

Have to say I 100% agree with you.

 

[haxman]

^^

Me too.

 

[Wsussexspur]

I have to say man utd fans are embarrassing. Could hardly hear them yesterday it was like they were watching a play at the theatre even when they scored first goal they celebrated for couple of mins then went quiet again. Also went into there main pub (The Trafford I think it was called) before the game as went up with Man utd supporting mate who ticket in there end and could not here one Manchester accent!

 

[Boots22]

I have to say man utd fans are embarrassing. Could hardly hear them yesterday it was like they were watching a play at the theatre even when they scored first goal they celebrated for couple of mins then went quiet again. Also went into there main pub (The Trafford I think it was called) before the game as went up with Man utd supporting mate who ticket in there end and could not here one Manchester accent!

A mate of mine went up there last season when they played Pompey in midweek as he was working up that way... couldn't get a ticket in the away end so sat in with the home fans and he said not one person around him spoke any English!

 

[kishman]

I've hated Man Utd since i moved up north 4 years ago, probably my most hated club after Arsenal, now people can see why.

 

[Spurger King]

Wrestling (well..popular wrestling) isn't a sport, it's a pantomime performed by actors, and in my opinion is little more than an entertaining bit of escapism. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Sadly, football is increasingly moving towards these pointless fictitious realms, where genuine contests are becoming less and less possible due to outside influences. I'm not talking about a conspiracy directed towards Spurs, I'm talking about the pathetic Old Trafford conspiracy.

I remember the year when United won the title for the first time in years, and a massive result in the run in was (I believe) a 3-2 win over Sheffield Wednesday, at Old Trafford. 2-1 down after 90 mins...the ref played 7 minutes of inhury time (which wasn't remotely justified), which proved just enough time for 2 goals from Steve Bruce. Winner goes in...final whistle blows.

Obviously a ref cannot control whether or not another team are going to concede, but he can do everything within his powers to help such a situation. Look at Italy...is it even worth watching Italian football anymore when we have seen how far this level of corruption goes? Does anyone think it is going to stop now that they have been caught? Anyone think it was a bit strange that the one team that survived the finger-pointing that year also happened to be owned by the Italian leader and media mogul Berlusconi?

The amount of money in football is making genuine competition almost pointless. As in Formula One, the rich sides get unlikely decisions made in their favour, to the disbelief of the watching population of the planet, and nothing ever happens from it!

We played reasonably well yesterday, against a decent but not outstanding team, and at 1-0 down I thought..fair score...might get something, but if not, its not a travesty.

One corrupt ref decision later and the entire match became little more than a badly directed piece of theatre.

 

[Son_Of]

I think i hate Manu more than Chelsea.....club of course. I actually feel like shit and i think last night has made it 10x worse.

i have done for years. chelsea are football cub that i dislike. i don''t even recognise man utd as a proper football club.

 

[PT]

It's all relative though isn't it? I mean I guess Chelsea and Manchester United supporters don't feel threatened by us whenever we play them We look up to them as peers because of their (bought) successes over the (recent) years.

We have no fears, rather apathy towards the likes of West Ham because there's no real reason to suppose they are a threat.

It's natural to hate the sight of those above I guess.

 

[StartingPrice]

There was another incident in the 95/96-season I remember.
We were playing Man U at Old Trafford, and Chris Armstrong had just been flagged offside. Gary Neville played a quick free-kick to Gary Pallister. Pallister had his head turned though, and didn't see the ball coming. Teddy Sheringham reacted to this like lightning and found himself one-on-one with Peter Schmeichel. THEN what happened?

The referee of course blew his whistle, stopped play and Gary Neville could have another try with the free-kick.

Remember it well...and what happened next, next was that they went up the other end and scored while our lot were trying to get an answer out of the ref as to what was wrong with te goal; oh, yeah, and it was not good enough for the corrupt ref to givethe goal but it was (almost certainly) good enough for enough for Red Nose to decide to bully Sheringham out of us (obviously on the basis that if he showed such speed of thought for them it WOULD be a goal:roll:

We are good at feeling sorry for our lot when we feel hard done by but -

Gomes should have played to the whistle..and didn't. He is at fault for this farcical episode, even if it should have been a freekick for handball. It wasn't given. No whistle was heard. Gomes should have cleared his lines or held on to the ball.

On this occasion, me old China, I am afraid I have to disagree with you.
Firstly, when the odd decision goes against I don't moan too much, but they have systematically been getting match-defining decisions of an extremely unsavoury nature in their favour for years now (almost every time we play them). Also, as I pointed out above, not only was Clatty very poor throughtout the match, but this one incient alone could have seen Nani getting two or three yellow cards, Paul Scholes red carded and handed a lengthy ban, and Rio Ferdinand yellow carded.

Besides, the crux of the matter isn't why Gomes played to an imaginary whistle, it is far more serious than that.

Ask youself what would have happened if Nani hadn't handled the ball - and the clear answer is that it would have went out for a goal kick. So, was it a goal kick? Apparently not by the fact that the ref didn't tell Gomes to take the ball back. In which case, was Clatty playing the advantage, in which case, clearly, Gomes would have to have actually played the ball - which he didn't do - in order to take that advantage. And if it was neither, which is the only defence that seems to be offered (Gomes should have played to the whistle, there wasn't one, and so the ball was in normal play, in his possession), then why did he not penalise and book Nani for a deliberate hand-ball? And why, if he hadn't seen it (which was clearly not the case), did he allow the goal to stand even after the lino told him what hapened? Clearly, the lino, like any 'normal' human being was under the impression that we had either a free-kick or the advantage, so when he saw what heppened he decided to tell Clatty about the hand-ball in case he hadn't seen it. And he stll gave the goal, indicating that he either saw the hand-ball but decided it was 'allowable' despite being an automatic yellow-card offence, because it was a United player, or he didn't see it, in which case the moment the words "deliberate hand-ball" left the lino's lips he should have disallowed the goal.

At the end of the day, I always applaud ay attempt to see more than one side to an arguement but, on top of all the other dodgy decisons they get, that one yesterday stank to the high heavens and there is no serious explanation to it, and I just cannot agree with your attempts at being 'reasonable'.

Saying Gomes should have played to the whistle doesn't hide the fact that Clatty made not one but several distinctly dodgy decisions surrounding this incident (just why did he let Paul Scholes jostle him for not giving the pen? Just why was Ferdinand allowed to shout at him and the lino all of the time they were consulting?).

 

[RickyVilla]

Remembr it well...and what happened next, next was that they went up the other end and scored while our lot were trying to get an answer out of the ref as to what was wrong with te goal; oh, yeah, and it was not good enough for the corrupt ref to givethe goal but it was (almost certainly) good enough for enough for Red Nose to decide to bully Sheringham out of us (obviously on the basis that if he showed such speed of thought for them it WOULD be a goal:roll:



On this occasion, me old China, I am afraid I have to disagree with you.
Firstly, when the odd decision goes against I don't moan to much, but they have systematically been getting match-defining decisions of an extremely unsavoury nature in their favour for years now (almost every time we play them). Also, as I pointed out above, not only was Clatty very oor throughtout the match, but this one incient alone could have seen Nani getting two or three yellow cards, Paul Scholes redcarded and handed a lengthy ban, and Rio Ferdinand yellow carded.

Besides, the crux of the matter isn't why Gomes played to an imaginary whistle, it is far more serious than that.

Ask youself what would have happeed if Nani hadn't handled the ball - and the clear answer is that it would have went out for a goal kick. So, was it a goal kick? Apparently not by the fact that the ref didn't tell Gomes to take the ball back. In which case, was Clatty playing the advantage, in which case, clearly, Gomes would have to have actually played the ball - which he didn't do. And if it was neither, which is the only defence that seems to be offered (Gomes should have played to the whistle, there wasn't one, and so the ball was in normal play, in his possession), then why did henot penalise and book Nani for a deliberate hand-ball? And why, if he hadn't seen it (which was clearly not the case), did h allow the goal to stand even after the lino tld him what hapened? Clearly, the lino, like any 'normal' human being was under the impression that we had either a free-kick or the advantage, so when he saw what heppened he decided totell Clatty aout the hand-ball in case he hadn't seen it.

At the end of the day, I always applaud ay attempt to see more than one side to an arguement but, on top of all the other dodgy decisons they get, that one yesterday stank to the high heavens and there is no serious explanation to it, and I just cannot agree with your attempts at being 'reasonable'.

This :up:

 

[pal90]

Not exactly the same but close enough, did anyone else notice this in the Grauniad a few weeks back? Ironically featuring a Spurs player

 

[Mr Pink]

Remember it well...and what happened next, next was that they went up the other end and scored while our lot were trying to get an answer out of the ref as to what was wrong with te goal; oh, yeah, and it was not good enough for the corrupt ref to givethe goal but it was (almost certainly) good enough for enough for Red Nose to decide to bully Sheringham out of us (obviously on the basis that if he showed such speed of thought for them it WOULD be a goal:roll:



On this occasion, me old China, I am afraid I have to disagree with you.
Firstly, when the odd decision goes against I don't moan too much, but they have systematically been getting match-defining decisions of an extremely unsavoury nature in their favour for years now (almost every time we play them). Also, as I pointed out above, not only was Clatty very poor throughtout the match, but this one incient alone could have seen Nani getting two or three yellow cards, Paul Scholes red carded and handed a lengthy ban, and Rio Ferdinand yellow carded.

Besides, the crux of the matter isn't why Gomes played to an imaginary whistle, it is far more serious than that.

Ask youself what would have happened if Nani hadn't handled the ball - and the clear answer is that it would have went out for a goal kick. So, was it a goal kick? Apparently not by the fact that the ref didn't tell Gomes to take the ball back. In which case, was Clatty playing the advantage, in which case, clearly, Gomes would have to have actually played the ball - which he didn't do - in order to take that advantage. And if it was neither, which is the only defence that seems to be offered (Gomes should have played to the whistle, there wasn't one, and so the ball was in normal play, in his possession), then why did he not penalise and book Nani for a deliberate hand-ball? And why, if he hadn't seen it (which was clearly not the case), did he allow the goal to stand even after the lino told him what hapened? Clearly, the lino, like any 'normal' human being was under the impression that we had either a free-kick or the advantage, so when he saw what heppened he decided to tell Clatty about the hand-ball in case he hadn't seen it. And he stll gave the goal, indicating that he either saw the hand-ball but decided it was 'allowable' despite being an automatic yellow-card offence, because it was a United player, or he didn't see it, in which case the moment the words "deliberate hand-ball" left the lino's lips he should have disallowed the goal.

At the end of the day, I always applaud ay attempt to see more than one side to an arguement but, on top of all the other dodgy decisons they get, that one yesterday stank to the high heavens and there is no serious explanation to it, and I just cannot agree with your attempts at being 'reasonable'.

Saying Gomes should have played to the whistle doesn't hide the fact that Clatty made not one but several distinctly dodgy decisions surrounding this incident (just why did he let Paul Scholes joslte him for not giving the pen? Just why was erdinand allowed to shout at him and the lino all of the time they were consulting?).

You're bang on with that, and its making my blood boil again!

 

[senseispab]

watch or don't watch. the world remains indifferent.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

Its these sort of things (and some of the decisions in Australia v England rugby league game, which was reffed by an Aussie) that put you off watching sport. I actually put WWE Vintage on at least its common knowledge its fixed and not some dirty secret.

Yes I am angry I said it to a Utd supporting guy at work on Sunday that we would lose and get screwed in the process. His reply, "I don't mind as long as we win".

 

[guate]

Disgusted...........Nani has been diving for ages now except this season he's just got worse than ever and old red nose doesn't say anything as he's so desperate to stay close to Chelsea at this stage.
Disgusted...........Chamakh and Nasri do it all the time, as someone said in another thread Arse anal have scored more goals from penalties this season than I believe from open play.
Scholes, Ferdinand, Neville, Terry, Webb, Clusterfuck..........there are truly some nasty pieces of work out there in the footballing world and yes, I'm very disgusted !!!!!!!

 

[guate]

Ahhhh Yes, coupled with a totally insipid and stupid F.A. that are just an excuse for a group of lazy "good old boys" that do sweet Fanny Adams enjoying the good life with plenty of travelling, fine food and the odd bribe plus an extremely inept FIFA led by one of the most corrupt men ever associated with the game.
Very, very disgusted