ENIC...

[Zaphod]

They are not interested in us Levy's statement was and remains a slimy but failed attempt at PR just before renewal time it was fake and shallow like him.

Oh I agree, it just seems simple to me. Be a little more open with your fanbase / customers and gain a little more goodwill and patience. But you’re right, I don’t think they are interested in what we think, there are no real consequences for them.

 

[trasores]

Levy genuinely doesn't care what the fans think of him and he doesn't care about the fans.

20 years of poor decisions.

Highest ticket prices
£60 for reopening
Season ticket fiasco
Furloughed staff
sacked Poch
Leaking fake news before season ticket deadline..

 

[Rocksuperstar]

These threads are turning into echo chambers, focusing on the negative & reinforcing this unshakable and, quite frankly, absolutely unreasonable hate toward one man.

This isn't productive or good for anyone's health and I'm stunned that so many of you only come on here to upvote similarly poisonous comments from each other. Look at the comments, look at the upvotes.

Some of the things said in here are fucking shameful - I expect we could all have a list made up of the shit things we've done but we'd at least hope that the good we've done in between would be considered too - not here. Not Dan Levy, everyone's favorite scapegoat.

Blame him for the shit, give him no credit for where we are compared to where we were when ENIC took over. That seems fair...

Wouldn't blame him if he did walk away and how quick would you all be to jump on him for being a bottle job and walking out on the mess he's apparently made? Think about it, and I mean think, not read more comments that reinforce what you already believe anyway.

This is pointless. This thread has become an echo chamber of misery and hate. Sad times, man.

 

[Shadydan]

These threads are turning into echo chambers, focusing on the negative & reinforcing this unshakable and, quite frankly, absolutely unreasonable hate toward one man.

This isn't productive or good for anyone's health and I'm stunned that so many of you only come on here to upvote similarly poisonous comments from each other. Look at the comments, look at the upvotes.

Some of the things said in here are fucking shameful - I expect we could all have a list made up of the shit things we've done but we'd at least hope that the good we've done in between would be considered too - not here. Not Dan Levy, everyone's favorite scapegoat.

Blame him for the shit, give him no credit for where we are compared to where we were when ENIC took over. That seems fair...

Wouldn't blame him if he did walk away and how quick would you all be to jump on him for being a bottle job and walking out on the mess he's apparently made? Think about it, and I mean think, not read more comments that reinforce what you already believe anyway.

This is pointless. This thread has become an echo chamber of misery and hate. Sad times, man.

Not only this thread, the entire site is a cesspit, probably mirrors the mood amongst Spurs fans but the comments and the attitude are just deplorable.

 

[kannanmothalali]

These threads are turning into echo chambers, focusing on the negative & reinforcing this unshakable and, quite frankly, absolutely unreasonable hate toward one man.

This isn't productive or good for anyone's health and I'm stunned that so many of you only come on here to upvote similarly poisonous comments from each other. Look at the comments, look at the upvotes.

Some of the things said in here are fucking shameful - I expect we could all have a list made up of the shit things we've done but we'd at least hope that the good we've done in between would be considered too - not here. Not Dan Levy, everyone's favorite scapegoat.

Blame him for the shit, give him no credit for where we are compared to where we were when ENIC took over. That seems fair...

Wouldn't blame him if he did walk away and how quick would you all be to jump on him for being a bottle job and walking out on the mess he's apparently made? Think about it, and I mean think, not read more comments that reinforce what you already believe anyway.

This is pointless. This thread has become an echo chamber of misery and hate. Sad times, man.

Le classy fan.

 

[MassadaTom]

Not only this thread, the entire site is a cesspit, probably mirrors the mood amongst Spurs fans but the comments and the attitude are just deplorable.

I wonder if we would sign Conte with £200 war chest, how the ENIC thread would look like?!

 

[cliff jones]

Good to see so many can now clearly see them for what they are. Those who are happy with what they are seem to be dwindling, and have very little recent evidence to support their case.

A poor summer market and start to the season would bring on another Ashley v Geordies type war, however, which if they don’t sell could kill the club.

I’d therefore much rather cling to the hope that the new football set up can deliver something interesting if not spectacular- although if Kane goes the signings would need to be the latter.

Levy really does need to match the humility of his programme notes with a commensurate cut to his own personal terms. Board remuneration should be driven mainly by on field achievement.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Blame him for the shit, give him no credit for where we are compared to where we were when ENIC took over. That seems fair...

Wouldn't blame him if he did walk away and how quick would you all be to jump on him for being a bottle job and walking out on the mess he's apparently made? Think about it, and I mean think, not read more comments that reinforce what you already believe anyway.

This is pointless. This thread has become an echo chamber of misery and hate. Sad times, man.

You wouldn't have to go back very far to see people suggesting we put a statue up of Levy outside the ground. Seriously. Unbelievable right?

As much as some of the spite is a bit over the top, you could 100% flip that and say the praise he was getting was over the top as well. No suggestions of an echo chamber when that was happening. But It's how this rolls, it's a cycle. Over the top praise, over the top criticism and that's not just where Levy is concerned. Look at the Sissoko thread, roundhouse abuse, then he had a decent patch and people were saying he was turning it around and then back to over the top abuse.

I think most sensible people know and recognise the good Levy has done, it doesn't get mentioned because why should they, we all know he has, it doesn't change the stuff that's upset them in the here and now.

But yeah, this is always going to be a polarising issue I suppose.

 

[ohtottenham!]

These threads are turning into echo chambers, focusing on the negative & reinforcing this unshakable and, quite frankly, absolutely unreasonable hate toward one man.

This isn't productive or good for anyone's health and I'm stunned that so many of you only come on here to upvote similarly poisonous comments from each other. Look at the comments, look at the upvotes.

Some of the things said in here are fucking shameful - I expect we could all have a list made up of the shit things we've done but we'd at least hope that the good we've done in between would be considered too - not here. Not Dan Levy, everyone's favorite scapegoat.

Blame him for the shit, give him no credit for where we are compared to where we were when ENIC took over. That seems fair...

Wouldn't blame him if he did walk away and how quick would you all be to jump on him for being a bottle job and walking out on the mess he's apparently made? Think about it, and I mean think, not read more comments that reinforce what you already believe anyway.

This is pointless. This thread has become an echo chamber of misery and hate. Sad times, man.

I agree completely with you but also with A&C in his response. However “toxic” some of these discussions have been, and we’ll have a whole range of “sanity” within that spectrum purely because it’s the Internet, there is a broad consensus about one thing from folks on all “sides”.

These “toxic” discussions have led us to a point where we’re generally united in agreement that Levy needs to have real separation from the football side. That’s the general consensus from my reading of posts here whatever folks think of Levy!

For me, that separation has to be made clear by Levy himself; not just in the form of appointments of a DoF etc., but in other ways that give us clear transparency and give Levy real accountability for demonstrating that separation.

There are various ways he can do that. First, just like his own, public admission re taking his eye off the ball re the football side, there needs to be another public statement from him clearly acknowledging that Spurs’ fan consensus re the need for his needed separation. Second, he needs to give us clear markers re how he’s doing that beyond a DoF appointment.

Point is, if we all agree on a critical point of consensus re how Spurs can be improved, we have to direct that energy to the man in control! Makes no sense if we don’t! It literally means we accept we have no voice!

General “rule”, people don’t change the status quo unless they feel pressure. Levy wouldn’t have made the public admissions he already has unless he felt pressure. That ain’t nearly enough right now because there’s a whole fanbase that is in agreement about one thing.

Show us you’re clearly separating yourself from the footballing decisions. And Levy needs to feel that pressure because he has total, operational control of the whole club!

Lastly, I’m definitely not “anti-Levy”; he’s done far, far more good than bad for Spurs over Enic’s tenure. He still needs a blowtorch up the arse right now…

 

[spursfan1991]

I think the naming rights should be the Lidl stadium.

"Crap on the pitch, lidl on price" would be a good replacement for "to dare is to do"

 

[shelfboy68]

"Crap on the pitch, lidl on price" would be a good replacement for "to dare is to do"

I think that is what we should unofficially call it as it makes perfect sense.

 

[Metalhead]

I think that is what we should unofficially call it as it makes perfect sense.

Er no as we'd only make ourselves look like pricks.

 

[shelfboy68]

Er no as we'd only make ourselves look like pricks.

Sorry mate that is the name now levy is doing a grand job of making us look like pricks without our help.

 

[Metalhead]

Sorry mate that is the name now levy is doing a grand job of making us look like pricks without our help.

I know but we should never denigrate our club even if we don't like the current owners. Plenty of opposition fans out there to do that.

 

[yankspurs]

With any luck, these 2 schmucks are discussing a takeover bid on their fun in the sun booze cruise on the yacht. Fingers crossed.

 

[shelfboy68]

I know but we should never denigrate our club even if we don't like the current owners. Plenty of opposition fans out there to do that.

Yes I have had enough abuse from rival fan's over the new manager appointment, normally me being me I fight back and trash their club now I just agree with them that is where I'm at.

 

[Wsussexspur]

I think Levy has well and truely messed-up with then naming rights.

I don’t think we will see naming rights for some time unless it’s a massive company like Amazon, Google or some one like Ineos who seem to be doing well at the moment. To be honest surely if it was going to be one of those massive companies previously mentioned then it would have happened by now. Given the last 12/18 months I can’t see companies spending loads of money on the naming rights for a stadium.

Also can’t hide from the fact with apparent money is demanding for naming rights companies are going to oook at the club and probably think in its current state it isn’t worth it To attach there name to our club at the moment.

 

[shelfboy68]

I think Levy has well and truely messed-up with then naming rights.

I don’t think we will see naming rights for some time unless it’s a massive company like Amazon, Google or some one like Ineos who seem to be doing well at the moment. To be honest surely if it was going to be one of those massive companies previously mentioned then it would have happened by now. Given the last 12/18 months I can’t see companies spending loads of money on the naming rights for a stadium.

Also can’t hide from the fact with apparent money is demanding for naming rights companies are going to oook at the club and probably think in its current state it isn’t worth it To attach there name to our club at the moment.

Again though similar to when we are off loading players we always want a high price when it suits, however when the club are required to pay out it's a fiver down and the rest paid in luncheon vouchers it's so small time.

 

[Metalhead]

Yes I have had enough abuse from rival fan's over the new manager appointment, normally me being me I fight back and trash their club now I just agree with them that is where I'm at.

F*ck them.

 

[Metalhead]

I think Levy has well and truely messed-up with then naming rights.

I don’t think we will see naming rights for some time unless it’s a massive company like Amazon, Google or some one like Ineos who seem to be doing well at the moment. To be honest surely if it was going to be one of those massive companies previously mentioned then it would have happened by now. Given the last 12/18 months I can’t see companies spending loads of money on the naming rights for a stadium.

Also can’t hide from the fact with apparent money is demanding for naming rights companies are going to oook at the club and probably think in its current state it isn’t worth it To attach there name to our club at the moment.

For all those reasons it's therefore probably a good idea for the club to be taking its time.