Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Annabel]

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

 

[sidford]

There is so much to throw at Levy and the board but if Conte is still manager when we play Everton that is absolutely unforgivable.

 

[wrd]

For me I'd weight more on the Manager and Players, not to take responsibility off the Owners, but because in reality week to week, season on season, we judge our team by what happens on the pitch and how "good" we think the potential of our team and manager should be, rightly or wrongly:

Owners 35%
Manager 30%
Players 25%
Fans 10%

At the core of it yes, how well we do long term is down to a lot of things from our owners, investment in the squad, appointment of manager etc. But the reason we are so frustrated right now more than anything else is because when we look at our team, and our manager, we expect that we should be getting better production on the pitch game by game (and have felt as much for almost every game this season). If we were run in a fan owned model right now with no levy/lewis involved, and this was our squad and manager producing this football, we'd be expecting much better performances and would still be unhappy. But yes acknowledged that ideally we'd not have ended up with this squad/manager combo to start, which is on Levy.

Fans at home whilst i dont put much weight on them in this table also really frustrate me, i agree with the point that we are quick to turn and it's not so much turning on a manager who ends up getting fired it's more just the silence and moaning/groaning that sets in very quickly early on in matches, and from personal memory has been the case under all the managers i can remember. Though granted this season more than any other in recent memory it's been more understandable.

I think your weighting has an interesting point which is; if the players are giving everything; then you can clearly look at the manager, if the players and manager are giving everything (a couple of the poch years, particularly last season at the lane) then you can clearly point to the board. Right now where every component is below standard, we can't fixate on a specific problem and so it's almost overwhelming to the senses of how much there is to address.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

Two weeks exactly until our next game, a lot of the squad ar injured or on international duty. Makes sense to me

 

[Timberwolf]

If he isn't sacked during the international break it's because the majority of the board thinks he is our best chance at CL football, that's the only plausible reason to keep him IMO.

I thought we would hear some noises this morning but nothing of note has come out.

Finances trump everything at THFC, and that CL spot is very lucrative on the yearly books.

Except the slew of articles in big newspapers saying the players expect him to leave soon and rumblings of unrest in the dressing room?

Tottenham’s squad believe Antonio Conte is ‘going or gone’ after outburst

The Tottenham squad expect Antonio Conte to leave the club in the summer at the latest following the manager’s outburst after the 3-3 draw at Southampton

www.theguardian.com

'Several' Tottenham players are want Antonio Conte sacked NOW after epic rant

ANTONIO CONTE has left Tottenham’s stars stunned and some of the squad want him axed now. The angry Spurs manager returned to Italy for a short break yesterday with the club still reeling after his…

www.thesun.co.uk

'Some Tottenham players happy to see Conte go THIS MONTH'

Conte launched into an astonishing rant after his side threw away a two-goal lead at bottom-of-the-league Southampton on Saturday to draw 3-3.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That's a big sign he could be on his way this week IMO. We've seen this type of the thing in the news cycle countless times before just before previous managers got axed.

 

[Yiddo100]

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

Fair few journos have said this aswell, squad was given a few days off

 

[FinnYid]

Yeah his outdated methods of defending a lead. Nobody does that in this day and age. The players must want someone who never requires to them to defend under pressure. I guess they took a stand to get Poch out because his methods became outdated too? Jose next and then Nuno. Some sort of pattern here I cant quiet work it out

Them to invite pressure more like.

As for Jose and Nuno, very much so on their behalf too.

On last one, appointing completely unsuitable men of yesterday.

(Poch was just his span running out (partly due lack of changes in squad), cue to 7h seasons of Kloppo everywhere). Different thing compared to these messiahs of negativity.

 

[Albertbarich]

A widely respected guy who has consistently been praised by numerous managers for his character and ability, including at international level (and by serial winners Mourinho and Conte) and who is known as a very articulate and intelligent man outside of football.

But sure he's toxic and all our problems stem from Dier.

I think people want the toxic ones to be the players they rate the least

 

[chas vs dave]

dont disagree but after Richy and Davies injuries, what more would you have done at 3-1 up with 15 to go?

It's difficult. However, son wasn't in the game.

I'm really not sure what we should have done. I agreed with the subs, but on the 85th minute felt too late.

The real discussion was probably the joke of the penalty being awarded.

 

[Guntz]

If he's going to leave before the end of the season, then it will happen in the next few days IMO.

Otherwise, he'll most likely stay until his contract expires.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

The coaching staff were supposed to be on a break apparently. Players are due back tomorrow tho I think so not sure how thats going to work.

 

[parj]

dont disagree but after Richy and Davies injuries, what more would you have done at 3-1 up with 15 to go?

Not invite pressure. Quite literally the worst kept secret in English football is that we can't sit back and defend. The only person that believes it's a secret is Conte. The same person that wants a whole new defence!!!!

 

[parj]

The coaching staff were supposed to be on a break apparently. Players are due back tomorrow tho I think so not sure how thats going to work.

I haven't seen any player improve in the last 18 months so coaches not being present won't make much of a difference

 

[karsten_finkle]

For me I'd weight more on the Manager and Players, not to take responsibility off the Owners, but because in reality week to week, season on season, we judge our team by what happens on the pitch and how "good" we think the potential of our team and manager should be, rightly or wrongly:

Owners 35%
Manager 30%
Players 25%
Fans 10%

At the core of it yes, how well we do long term is down to a lot of things from our owners, investment in the squad, appointment of manager etc. But the reason we are so frustrated right now more than anything else is because when we look at our team, and our manager, we expect that we should be getting better production on the pitch game by game (and have felt as much for almost every game this season). If we were run in a fan owned model right now with no levy/lewis involved, and this was our squad and manager producing this football, we'd be expecting much better performances and would still be unhappy. But yes acknowledged that ideally we'd not have ended up with this squad/manager combo to start, which is on Levy.

Fans at home whilst i dont put much weight on them in this table also really frustrate me, i agree with the point that we are quick to turn and it's not so much turning on a manager who ends up getting fired it's more just the silence and moaning/groaning that sets in very quickly early on in matches, and from personal memory has been the case under all the managers i can remember. Though granted this season more than any other in recent memory it's been more understandable.

nah. you're all wrong...

Owners 0%
Manager 0%
Players 0%
Fans 0%
Chirpy 100%

 

[SpursJord]

Regarding Saturday..
Conte was damned if he did damned if he didn't.
I personally was ok with his substitutions at the time , ofc it all went tits up and now we are all master coaches.
If he had brought on Moura or Danjuma there is no gaurentee our sorry defence wouldn't have still conceded, and the argument would have been he didn't shore it up and taken the points.

Yes we may have invited pressure, but ffs we were playing soton with Walcott and 15 to go, not City with Haaland for 90
No excuses, our defenders are not to be trusted whatever system we play, the rest is all baloney.

Conte can still fuck off though, because of a list as long as the high st.

I get what you are saying but for us to allow them to have 19 Shots and equal if not slightly better possession than us is appalling. A team that has scored 11 at home all season had a 27% rise on that when we allowed them to score 3.

I don't believe I'm a master coach or anything but name me one other Premier League team that doesn't go for them when they are playing with a 3rd choice CB and a CM there. We bring on Sarr for Kulu go 352 and sit back.

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

They are supposed to be back in tomorrow so lets see what happens.

 

[JackCOYS16]

Paul O’Keefe seems to think he will be sacked

 

[Joe Bjorn Hotspur]

A lot of people are agreeing with Conte's criticism of the players, which is fine, but the question of who and what he is talking about has been asked several times and I can only see some very vague answers.

So again, all who think he is spot on, who is he talking about? Or, since he is pointing out all the starting players and the squad; what is he talking about?

I'm asking since I haven't seen a lack of commitment in the squad (OK, fine, Sheffield U away was awful in every sense of the word). I see sub-par performances, frustration and terrible decision-making from the players, but I'm not sure if I see a lack of trying. And I certainly didn't see it in a standout way against Southampton.

I am in the Conte was spot on camp with his rant. The standout (my view) lack of commitment mixed with throwing it away this season: Nottingham Forest (League Cup), Sheffield United (FA Cup), AC Milan (CL), Arsenal (PL home & away), Villa (PL home), Southampton (PL away), Leicester (PL away), Wolves (PL away - 2nd half especially).

There are obviously more examples this season, I am just so bored of it and many more from previous years. Europa League 2020/21: the mentality was woeful. FA Cup exits year on year losing to Middlesbrough, Norwich City. Mura in the Conference League and Rennes away too. There’s just too many games where the attitude is poor thinking they’re too good.

Also with the more experienced group who’ve been a part of Poch, Jose and Nuno tenures he may be referring to the likes of this season, especially, Dier, Son, Sanchez. I know he referred to all of them loosely but I reckon he knows that the fans have long realised it’s the same culprits over and over again. Also a huge dose of saying he is more or less done. I’ve been saying it for months he just needs to go back to Italy with his family.

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[Yiddo100]

Paul O’Keefe seems to think he will be sacked

Lovely

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Reddit saying Conte has flown back to Italy for a break

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

nah. you're all wrong...

Owners 0%
Manager 0%
Players 0%
Fans 0%
Chirpy 100%

Why is it the Tea Lady never gets blamed?