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Graham Taylor - ex England manager has died.

talkshowhost86

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Sad news this, im sure the media will say how amazing he was and what a career he had even though it was they who did their best to end it..

RIP

Exactly. I bet the same two-faced papers that joked about him being a turnip will be full of praise tomorrow..

Anyway...RIP Graham Taylor.
 

Bobbins

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One of the gentlemen of the game from everything I've seen and heard over the years. Really sad.
 

spursfan77

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Reports saying it was a heart attack - so very sudden and unexpected. Felt sorry for the guy due to the disgusting treatment he received from the media during his time as England manager and sadly that is how many will remember him.

Me too. Hopefully the papers will be a lot more respectful to him in his passing. The shit he had to go through was horrendous.

I hope he's properly remembered. Always seemed too nicer guy to be a football manager.
 

chavkev

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I hope that the Sun newspaper steer clear of reporting his death altogether. They stuck a turnip on the guy's head. What more can they do?
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Exactly. I bet the same two-faced papers that joked about him being a turnip will be full of praise tomorrow..

Anyway...RIP Graham Taylor.

I was just litening to an old interview with him. He explained the impact that the whole media witch hunt had, especially with regards to the Turnip issue. The journalist who created the turnip article, apparently invited him to his leaving do. Saying to Taylor that it was all just meant as a joke. Taylor explained the abuse he got as a result of the derision. Including 2 blokes at Brentford who swore at him and nearly threw their pints over him, as a result of the media derision. He said o the journalist, "was that a joke? Was that funny?".

You could tell he was really hurt by the whole affair. A genuinely nice fella and a competent club manager.

RIP
 

UncleBuck

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Back in the day Watford were known as 'the family club' and I remember going to the Family Day that they put on at Vicarage Road with my neighbour.
Being a local lad growing up surrounded by Watford supporters it was always hard to justify why I supported us to them but I just preferred our kit!
Between '82 and '85 the town spoke of nothing but football, when they reached the final in '84 the town was buzzing.
My dad managed to get me a final programme as he was on duty that day and I took it to the family day, got autographs of all the players in their respective programme boxes but the time I had sitting with GT talking to him about football and getting his signature on the back of the programme will never leave me.
I subsequently met him on a couple of other occasions over the years and I can honestly say he was a proper gent, proper old school who in today's era wouldn't have been given a chance.
What he done with Watford was a miracle and Villa was a fantastic achievement, England was the only blot on his record but then isn't that the case for every manager who has been near that position chalice...
RIP GT
 
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dontcallme

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Always seemed like someone who dealt with the media and fan abuse with good humour and never let his personal standards drop.

A sad day.
 

kmk

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Fantastic club manager and a nice guy but hopeless as England manager.

I could never understand why he selected donkeys like Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas, David Batty and Andy Gray during his tenure.
 

talkshowhost86

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Fantastic club manager and a nice guy but hopeless as England manager.

I could never understand why he selected donkeys like Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas, David Batty and Andy Gray during his tenure.

To be fair we weren't exactly overflowing with talented players at the time.

Everyone was very excited because we got to the semis of World Cup 90, but we were actually shit in that tournament. Taylor didn't do well certainly, but we were far from good at that time anyway.
 

kmk

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To be fair we weren't exactly overflowing with talented players at the time.

Everyone was very excited because we got to the semis of World Cup 90, but we were actually shit in that tournament. Taylor didn't do well certainly, but we were far from good at that time anyway.

He picked too many donkeys which couldn't even beat Norway (home or away) when he had good players like Shearer, Sheringham, Ince, Gazza, Beardsley & Anderton, He could have also selected Waddle & Steve Bruce,
 

Dougal

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He picked too many donkeys which couldn't even beat Norway (home or away) when he had good players like Shearer, Sheringham, Ince, Gazza, Beardsley & Anderton, He could have also selected Waddle & Steve Bruce,
Shearer was injured a lot, Gazza missed a whole season, Sheringham wasn't the player we know now having only moved to Spurs, Beardsley had lost his place in the Liverpool team and Anderton was as yet a rising star (and let's face it, probably injured a bit). He gave Ince his debut, and he played in the Norway game. Waddle was at the wrong end of his career and every England Manager overlooked Steve Bruce. In the middle of his reign the league was won by Leeds whose best players were 2 aging Scots and a French man.
 

UncleBuck

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Gave Shearer his debut.
Even to this day I'll never understand the Linekar substitution though!
 
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