Harry Kane

[wrd]

I don't really see how Bale is the answer for keeping Kane. Surely it has to be Grealish. Grealish creates the most chances from open play on the Prem, more than De Bruyne. Grealish is such a exceptional talent and crazy that he's possible available. We should move heaven and earth to sign him, so he can supply Kane.

If we had the same squad as last season, but with Grealish, instead of the "necessary" striker, Doherty and PEH, we'd be much stronger.

I don't get the insistence on buying a RB and DM, when after the restart, we weren't conceding, but we still weren't scoring much. We need to find 20+ goals per season and that doesn't come from buying a 2nd rate back up striker, a RB and a DM.

I totally accept we were weak in CM, we lacked cover for Kane and Aurier is unpredictable. But even with all of those things, the stand out reason why we struggled last season was because we scored just 61 goals, despite having lots of good finishers. We don't create anything. Signing Dost, Wilson or Vinicius, isn't going to solve that, nor is Doherty.

If we'd have Grealish last season, we'd have finished 3rd in my opinion. The players we've signed aren't going to help us finish 3rd this season.

With a player like Grealish, Kane would set the record for number of goals scored in a Prem season.

You only have to look at how Liverpool and City have become so dominant and it's by buying amazing players. It's that simple. It's better to buy one top class player, that will be a standout for years, than a bunch of also rans, that cover the gaps we have in the squad.

Grealish signed a new deal at Villa today.

 

[spursintheblood]

We don’t need a rebuild. We’ve got some great players in most of the key positions, and young players with potential waiting in the wings. The one big question mark is central midfield, and if Tanguy can push on there we will look much much better.

So sick of hearing people talk us down. We are a good side.

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

 

[carpediem991]

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

Gedson might be the player easiest to forget of all players ever. It seems to happen to everyone.

 

[joey55]

Grealish signed a new deal at Villa today.

FFS!

I suppose it doesn't really matter anyway, we've spent 30 million of our budget already and are determined to buy a striker, so we wouldn't have had the money. I just disagree with the general strategy of balancing the squad, by buying several average players. I'd rather have last seasons squad, with one real difference maker added to it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Anything less than winning the Europa and I think he's gone, even then he might take some convincing.

I think that isn't true, if we win any trophy it could tempt him that things are on the up, doesn't have to be Europa.
But we aren't going to win anything playing like this under this dinosaur.

 

[spursintheblood]

looked like he already had his bags Sunday. Dele, Son and Moura running all over the place while Harry jogged around was a glaring contrast.

If he feels he wasn't giving it his all, it'll just motivate him. We will see him back to his best soon.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

And a LB,CB, Eriksen replacement, upgrade on Lucas and a manager who can actually get us playing something vaguely resembling football.

 

[spursintheblood]

Gedson might be the player easiest to forget of all players ever. It seems to happen to everyone.

Damn. Even added Hart first too! Even better. We may have stagnated a couple of years back and run out of steam after the ECL final, but there has been a consistent push for the last year to improve the team.

 

[dudu]

Damn. Even added Hart first too! Even better. We may have stagnated a couple of years back and run out of steam after the ECL final, but there has been a consistent push for the last year to improve the team.

And keep our best players there.

We massively increased our entire wage structure the last few years too, which is not cheap to bo by any means. This often gets discounted.

 

[spursintheblood]

And a LB,CB, Eriksen replacement, upgrade on Lucas and a manager who can actually get us playing something vaguely resembling football.

I'll agree on the potential need for a Eriksen esque figure. Happy with Lucas.

 

[yawa]

If I had any confidence that we could spend the money wisely and invest in 4-5 quality players which would be in or push the first 11. I’d probably be ok with this.

But we’ll just make a complete mess of it and not get good players in.

 

[Stamford]

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

Honestly none of those have shown a sustained period of quality that fills me with much confidence. If that's the rebuild then it's going to be mid table finishes

 

[joey55]

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

But it's been 5 years since we bought a player than was genuinely, arguably, the best in the league in his position. In the 5 years prior to that we bought Son, Toby, Eriksen, Dembele, Lloris and Vertonghen. There have been periods where any one of those could have been described as the best in their position in the Prem. So while our new players need time to develop, do you really believe they are the same level as the core signings that made us a top 2 club?

In the last 5 years Liverpool have bought Fabinho, Robertson, Mane, Sane, VVD and Allison. They've just been so much better in the transfer market than us. We came close with the likes of Grealish, Dyabala and Fernandes, but ultimately, we've fallen short when it's really mattered. That's the difference between us and Liverpool, not Klopp's tactics etc.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

While we were challenging (top 4 every season, champions League) I could see him staying.

But if we are outside the top 4 this season he has to go.

I love him and I think he is brilliant but he deserves to be at a top club challenging for titles and cups, if we can't offer that he has to go.

He could go on to be the best in the world at RM or Barca or even city. Imagine Kane retiring from spurs without a trophy, that's almost criminal for a player of his ability.

We have said we have no money, we are nowhere near the required level and we don't look like getting there soon. So sadly he has to go and I don't think we can really blame him.

He is probably the best player I have seen at spurs.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

The rebuild is ongoing. Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Doherty, PEH. All this year. Clarke, Devine and Hart too.

We're a bloody brilliant side. Just need the confidence... (and a back-up striker or 2...)

Nah. We're not a particularly good side. Lo Celso's quality, and Bergwijn's ok, but the rest you mention are pretty meh tbh. None of them would get in the City team, or even Chelsea arguably. We have two amazing players and a really good keeper and that's it really.
We need to be honest about the shortcomings of the players, so we can move on those who need to go. Saying that everyone is brilliant is not using proper critical judgement, especially when you add Joe Hart to your list.

 

[Mr Pink]

i think Kane's a gonner regardless of what we do in the transfer market. I'm pretty sure he would've left this summer had it not been for covid and the disruption it has caused.

And who can blame him for wanting to leave given the direction our team seems to be taking.

Who would of paid the 200 million plus Levy would of demanded?

I'm sure the desire to leave would of been there but whether someone would of paid what Levy wanted is another thing all together.

 

[spursintheblood]

But it's been 5 years since we bought a player than was genuinely, arguably, the best in the league in his position. In the 5 years prior to that we bought Son, Toby, Eriksen, Dembele, Lloris and Vertonghen. There have been periods where any one of those could have been described as the best in their position in the Prem. So while our new players need time to develop, do you really believe they are the same level as the core signings that made us a top 2 club?

In the last 5 years Liverpool have bought Fabinho, Robertson, Mane, Sane, VVD and Allison. They've just been so much better in the transfer market than us. We came close with the likes of Grealish, Dyabala and Fernandes, but ultimately, we've fallen short when it's really mattered. That's the difference between us and Liverpool, not Klopp's tactics etc.

But they were only the best in their position after they came to us. Lloris came from France, Son from Germany as well as raiding Ajax. Dembele was class at Fulham, but didn't attract another "top club" bid. The team as a whole needs to come together and allow people to express themselves. They've been playing within themselves and not as a team since the final.
The few new voices might unblock the angst.

 

[Mornstar]

Who would of paid the 200 million plus Levy would of demanded?

I'm sure the desire to leave would of been there but whether someone would of paid what Levy wanted is another thing all together.

When a player like Kane decides he wants to move, there's very little Levy can do to stand in his way. We learnt that with Carrick, Barba, modric, bale, eriksen just to name a few

 

[Mr Pink]

When a player like Kane decides he wants to move, there's very little Levy can do to stand in his way. We learnt that with Carrick, Barba, modric, bale, eriksen just to name a few

Think you missed my point, it's the mammoth fee he'd command dwarfing any of those you listed.

Yes when a player wants to leave it normally ends up going only one way, but it still requires someone matching Levy's valuation and it would smash any previous records.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

When a player like Kane decides he wants to move, there's very little Levy can do to stand in his way. We learnt that with Carrick, Barba, modric, bale, eriksen just to name a few

2 years, 2 years, 2 years, 2 years, 6 months.

That’s how long was left on each of those players contracts at the time of departure.