Harry Kane

[gio747]

If it's true and Harry was never supposed to start training this morning anyway, there'll be a load of Sky's football pundits and reporters running around right now trying desperately to come up with a plan which helps them save face, after demonstrating to everyone how little they actually know about what's going on.

Oh God PLEASE be true...
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Tbh they’ll not give a fuck. It’ll be how professional Kane is while spurs are holding him back

 

[TheTanguy]

We don’t necessarily need a goal machine, although that would be nice, we need more players to contribute with goals, Man City’s top scorer last season was Gundogan and they won the league. We need more players scoring 14/15 goals a seasons

But we don't have such a squad, our wingers (apart from Son) and midfielders don't score much and I can't see that change anytime soon. We need a striker who scores at least 20 goals in the league next season if we want to be anywhere near the top 5.

Players like Hojbjerg, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Bergwijn etc. won't start scoring goals for fun all of a sudden.

 

[ZiggySpurs]

We don’t necessarily need a goal machine, although that would be nice, we need more players to contribute with goals, Man City’s top scorer last season was Gundogan and they won the league. We need more players scoring 14/15 goals a seasons

Completely agree with this. If we see the team take on a more holistic approach to scoring goals, we'll be better off as a team. Less reliance on individuals especially when they're injured/out of form. This will definitely be a transitional year or two though if we plan on working on that aspect of our game and signing players that help achieve that.

 

[gio747]

So let me get this straight (there's a compliment somewhere in this reply) you looked through every post? That's quite a lot of b'days! You're either Colombo or Jessica Fletcher!

I have an unreasonable dislike of Jessica Fletcher. Nosey auld c&*t

 

[EZSpur]

It's not as instant as you think. This has been simmering since that Neville interview, especially the timing of it. For him to show up at training is the bare minimum to keep good will with the fans.

I'll hold back full scorn and judgement until tomorrow/later this week, see if today was truly him throwing his toys out of the pram or if his supercar got a flat tyre and he shows up later this evening saying "hi lads, sorry I'm late. did I miss anything?"

I hear you and i know i'm in the minority but what did he really say that was so wrong in that interview.
In fact i was quite glad that he was so honest - at least you know where you stand.
And tbf which striker wouldn't want to play with someone like De Bruyne - it's like asking if you'd like to play with Messi or Ronaldo - 'Hell yeah! Of course!'

Look, I just find it strange that people are saying that he's 'turned his back on us' 'he hates the club' 'he's shitting on us!' - c'mon, really!!
He's been with us for almost 20 years and in that time he's given his all - every time!
The fact that we've been so close to winning the league, winning the CL, winning the league cup, getting to the FA Cup final - but not quite making it - it's bound to take it's toll on our best players.
Can we really begrudge him a move??

I just hope that all the talk of him getting Covid tested and returning to training tomorrow is true.
However, the truth is, there's simply no easy way to lose a player you love - who really is 'one of our own!'.

It was never gonna be straightforward but like i said before, we knew it was gonna happen - so rather than getting angry at a player that over years has brought all of us so much joy, how about we just take the shedload of cash, reinvest and go again!!

COYS!!

 

[JCRD]

We don’t necessarily need a goal machine, although that would be nice, we need more players to contribute with goals, Man City’s top scorer last season was Gundogan and they won the league. We need more players scoring 14/15 goals a seasons

Losing Kane is a massive loss but only if he wanted to stay. If he doesnt then sell and use this as an opportunity to strengthen our team and get players who can contribute to the goals total.

Lets not forget - Kane had both highest scorer and assist maker yet we finished 7th. It goes to show that the team is far more important than one single player. We can have two or three players contributing the same number of goals and assists but with a better defence and we would finish much higher.

Sell him, strengthen our defence and get in one or two strikers in and even a midfielder and lets rebuild like we should have done a year or two ago.

 

[PeeLee]

If the refusal to train is true then he has burnt a lifelong connection with the club, no ambassador role, VIP treatment, generational love, maybe I could understand if it was for a historic institution like barca or Madrid but City have no soul, and a plastic support, he will be forgotten the moment he leaves

So far Harry Kane did not turn up for a Covid test this Monday, but then he could be tested for that at the end of his road if there's a test centre there. It's on Tuesday that he, and presumably some other international players, are due to turn up for training. Even then I imagine their first few hours will be spent being introduced to and meeting with Nuno.

And I'd be wary of jumping to angry conclusions about Harry Kane based on present so flimsy a basis. That's the difference with mass media where they can paint scenarios and shit-stir because to them it's just a chance to grab listeners and readers.

 

[Dougal]

He's done alright when Kane's been injured. Can't really compare his goals and chances with Kane in the team, as that's a skewed paradigm, but make him the focus of our play and I reckon he'll do a fine job.

He’s done great. But if Kane were to leave and Levy was to offer up Son as the replacement then all hell would break loose. If it hasn’t already. Levy has shielded himself with Paritici for a reason, his stock among the fan base has been at an all time low this summer.

 

[harethkale]

While somewhat inevitable due to the on and off the field issues over the past years, I find this all quite depressing. Ever since the cluster**** of last season, I've been expecting him to try to leave - even if I hoped otherwise.

So many wasted opportunities over the last few years, blame for how this is turning out can be apportioned to many - Levy/Lewis, Pochettino, Mourinho and Kane himself.

 

[ZiggySpurs]

I hear you and i know i'm in the minority but what did he really say that was so wrong in that interview.
In fact i was quite glad that he was so honest - at least you know where you stand.
And tbf which striker wouldn't want to play with someone like De Bruyne - it's like asking if you'd like to play with Messi or Ronaldo - 'Hell yeah! Of course!'

Look, I just find it strange that people are saying that he's 'turned his back on us' 'he hates the club' 'he's shitting on us!' - c'mon, really!!
He's been with us for almost 20 years and in that time he's given his all - every time!
The fact that we've been so close to winning the league, winning the CL, winning the league cup, getting to the FA Cup final - but not quite making it - it's bound to take it's toll on our best players.
Can we really begrudge him a move??

I just hope that all the talk of him getting Covid tested and returning to training tomorrow is true.
However, the truth is, there's simply no easy way to lose a player you love - who really is 'one of our own!'.

It was never gonna be straightforward but like i said before, we knew it was gonna happen - so rather than getting angry at a player that over years has brought all of us so much joy, how about we just take the shedload of cash, reinvest and go again!!

COYS!!

I think it's safe to say most of us agreed with him to a degree, things were shambolic by the end of last season and our fanbase was growing hostile and frustrated. However, it's not so much what he said, it was the timing. Doing such an interview in the last couple of weeks of the season was irresponsible while top 4-5 were still mathematically viable (though at that point we had a mountain to climb for top 4). He could have waited to do interviews like that during the Euros prep or after the Euros and I'm sure, while it would have still left a bitter taste in our mouths, it wouldn't have been as damaging.

 

[Pochemon94]

Losing Kane is a massive loss but only if he wanted to stay. If he doesnt then sell and use this as an opportunity to strengthen our team and get players who can contribute to the goals total.

Lets not forget - Kane had both highest scorer and assist maker yet we finished 7th. It goes to show that the team is far more important than one single player. We can have two or three players contributing the same number of goals and assists but with a better defence and we would finish much higher.

Sell him, strengthen our defence and get in one or two strikers in and even a midfielder and lets rebuild like we should have done a year or two ago.

I agree with you, but the hard thing about this is that the only team that can afford him is City, although they spend a lot on players they never spend an insane amount on one player. Harry is worth $200 mil to us, City will never pay that, their negotiating tactic is we will pay 100 this year and that’s as high as it’ll go, if you don’t accept it we will just sign Halland next year for 75 or go after lukaku or pretty much any other striker that won’t cost 170-200 mil. The sad thing is, they don’t even need Kane and tbh I wouldn’t even be shocked if after his move he just sits on the bench for 3/4th of the season because he doesn’t fit peps system

 

[sausage]

He’s done great. But if Kane were to leave and Levy was to offer up Son as the replacement then all hell would break loose. If it hasn’t already. Levy has shielded himself with Paritici for a reason, his stock among the fan base has been at an all time low this summer.

Only, imo, if we didn't replace him in some other way. Replacing Kane with an out-and-out Striker wouldn't be as much of a replacement as a number 10.

Kane is a bit like Messi in his role, floating around a bit further back, so we'd need to go for more of a Bruno Fernandes type if we want to replace his contributions.

Or give Dele a real kick up the arse. Either way, we'll not have much fun if we replace him with a striker, necessarily.

 

[isaac94]

Even got Ramon Vega showing Kane up now, what a day

 

[DiVaio]

This, a thousand times this. If we'd showed ambition coupled with some sort of progress we would likely not be in this situation now. Instead, the club regressed, not only regressed, but, by the clubs own admission, was allowed to, thanks to the 'taking my eye off the ball' bollocks. Nobody is going to come out of this with a clean gusset.

Last two years we have been ambitious though. We have easily regressed much more due to Kane fully believing into Jose narrative that players needs to be grown men etc and by that Jose wasn't sacked one or two months earlier

 

[Ndombers]

Fair play to Carragher. He's not one to stoke the fire like the likes of Neville, Ferdinand and co. He does apply a bit of common sense to these matters whereas the others come out with the 'He needs to leave to win' lines.

Unless you're a teenage girl, and then he'll gob in your face

 

[sausage]

Imagine if Harry was like "Right, Euros over - I'm off on holiday. Phone off, twitter muted. Charlie - keep stuff ticking over until I get back. You booked that Monday off for quarantine right? Yep. Cool. Don't go agitating about a transfer - got it?"



Walks back in tomorrow...

 

[JCRD]

I agree with you, but the hard thing about this is that the only team that can afford him is City, although they spend a lot on players they never spend an insane amount on one player. Harry is worth $200 mil to us, City will never pay that, their negotiating tactic is we will pay 100 this year and that’s as high as it’ll go, if you don’t accept it we will just sign Halland next year for 75 or go after lukaku or pretty much any other striker that won’t cost 170-200 mil. The sad thing is, they don’t even need Kane and tbh I wouldn’t even be shocked if after his move he just sits on the bench for 3/4th of the season because he doesn’t fit peps system

Thats the thing - if we dont accept what is on offer and he has a shit season and we dont do well next season then essentially we will have thrown 50m down the drain because he wont be worth next summer what he is worth this summer.

We never thought he wouldnt turn up to training, if that is true.... so we dont know what will happen

 

[Gassin's finest]

I have an unreasonable dislike of Jessica Fletcher. Nosey auld c&*t

She was a monster. Her and Miss Marple. All these places they visit and someone always gets murdered? But no one suspects the little old lady, do they?

Devious psychopaths, the pair of them.

 

[carpediem991]

This, a thousand times this. If we'd showed ambition coupled with some sort of progress we would likely not be in this situation now. Instead, the club regressed, not only regressed, but, by the clubs own admission, was allowed to, thanks to the 'taking my eye off the ball' bollocks. Nobody is going to come out of this with a clean gusset.

The club tried, I say too late and that Mourinho was such a massive failure has not helped obviously, but it is not like we have not invested.

19/20 Sessegnon, Ndombele, Gio + Bergwijn
20/21 In the middle of a pandemic with a big loss in income we got Bale back, Vinicius, Reguilon, Doherty, Hojbjerg and Rodon.

Personally I'd say we showed ambition the last two seasons, it just did not work out.

 

[Whoami?]

I don't want to lose Harry but he probably needs to go to fund a total rebuild. The fact that he didn't turn up shows that his head is not in it. We all knew he wanted to leave but to not turn up? I certainly thought he wouldn't take this route.

The Harry money, alongside the likes of Aurier, Sanchez, Winks and Sissoko going would allow us to rebuild for the next 3-5 years. We can slowly add 1/2 quality additions every summer as the majority of rebuild will be done with outgoings and we'll be much better financially.

It's very much a buyers market and with Paratici, would could literally have some FM type window.

CB (As well as Romero)
RB
CM
2 Strikers(One being Ings) and possibly a winger if we move one of ours on.

We can never replace Harry's goals or assist but we can make ourselves a much more solid unit with real quality throughout the team and not just up front.