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Harry Winks - Leicester City

Snuzzy

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If Harry Winks is the answer, what could possibly be the question?

"Who's a central midfielder who won't need any time adapting to the Premier League, available for transfer at an non-eyewatering price, isn't old/shit? (Home grown not essential but always desirable)"
 

AustroSpur

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If I was in his position and Everton are interested I’d be expecting my agent to go all out and get me a move to Spain!
Sun on his back, earn some great money and play in a league that’d actually suit him, I just don’t understand why more English players don’t go and experience playing in another country.?‍♂️
Agree 100% - the playing style in Spain, Italy and/or France would much better suit him. Less physical, a little more time on the ball allowing him to keep games ticking, be more involved and play to his strengths, I´d be happy for him. I also agree he´s not good enough for Spurs or any upper half PL club but teams like Sociedad, Valencia or the italian/french equivalents would be a good fit, I imagine, and I´d be happy for him to have such a move. Plus, imagine living in such beautiful places on more than decent wages compared to (no disrespect) Liverpool on slightly higher wages...
 

spursfan77

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To have seen an academy product be in and around the 1st team for the last 6 years (approx) has been great. At the very start, I really thought Harry would go onto be a key player for us but he has just stood still a bit as things around him have changed.

He is nowhere near as bad as some make out, and quite frankly some of the criticism is completely unfair. We have simply decided now is the time to move him on for the good of his career and that isn't a bad thing. He would do brilliantly in Spain but he will also go on to do a good solid job for most PL sides outside of the Top 6 so good luck to him!

I really think he never recovered after that injury early on in his career when he went over on his ankle. Poch said at the time he'll never recover from it and always play with a little pain. Could be something he has just had to manage all this time.

I mean look at the history, there is something up with it.



Last season Winks admitted to football.london that he was still feeling pain in his ankle months after the injury before it finally went away.

Pochettino said on Thursday that the key to Winks being able to move on was accepting that he will always have a certain degree of pain in his ankle.

"It is a chronic injury. He needs to adapt and understand and accept that he needs to play with this little bit of pain. For a young player it is difficult to accept that because you want to feel 100 per cent and not feel anything in your body and feel free," explained the Spurs boss.

"He has discovered a different feeling and he has to accept that problem can affect you but not affect you in your mind. You need to live with this small thing.
 

Freddie

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I agree with some of your points but some are completely unfounded and probably blurred by bias.

To say he shirks a challenge isn't entirely accurate and I suspect your issue with his lack of forward passing is probably based on his time under Mourinho, because while he may never have been a 30 yard pass over the top type, he can certainly pass forwards.

I think in England we are too quick to try and pigeon hole midfielders, they either have to be a Makelele type or a creative force with Beckham's right foot. Winks sits in neither of those and often people struggle to fit them in.

For clarity, the time is right for him to go as we now have far better options but as he came through and broke in he was a good option in a midfield that suited his style under Poch, that's not the case anymore and that's why he isn't playing.
People on this sight have gone made about him pulling out of challenges. I'm not sure why you think I'm bias if I see things differently to you. I've just commented on what I've seen.

Look at the times he plays forwards and you'll see it's when he's in acres of space. Even then it's rarely defence splitting. He does little to beat a man or thread it through a tight gap when men are around him. He doesn't do much that is difficult these days.

I wouldn't pigeon hole him but someone called him a continuity midfielder and that does sum him up. He probably plays well in one system, but he's not going to have a team that plays that way his whole career just for him because he's not good enough. I suspect he'll do ok somewhere until they change manager and then he'll be benched again, a bit like Cleverley
 

donny1013

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I really think he never recovered after that injury early on in his career when he went over on his ankle. Poch said at the time he'll never recover from it and always play with a little pain. Could be something he has just had to manage all this time.

I mean look at the history, there is something up with it.



Last season Winks admitted to football.london that he was still feeling pain in his ankle months after the injury before it finally went away.

Pochettino said on Thursday that the key to Winks being able to move on was accepting that he will always have a certain degree of pain in his ankle.

"It is a chronic injury. He needs to adapt and understand and accept that he needs to play with this little bit of pain. For a young player it is difficult to accept that because you want to feel 100 per cent and not feel anything in your body and feel free," explained the Spurs boss.

"He has discovered a different feeling and he has to accept that problem can affect you but not affect you in your mind. You need to live with this small thing.
I can’t remember a time ever seeing him ‘put his laces’ through the ball, if he does shoot, always seems to be with his instep and did wonder whether that injury was anything to do with it. Maybe just the way he has always played, but always thought it was odd.
 

WiganSpur

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I really think he never recovered after that injury early on in his career when he went over on his ankle. Poch said at the time he'll never recover from it and always play with a little pain. Could be something he has just had to manage all this time.

I mean look at the history, there is something up with it.



Last season Winks admitted to football.london that he was still feeling pain in his ankle months after the injury before it finally went away.

Pochettino said on Thursday that the key to Winks being able to move on was accepting that he will always have a certain degree of pain in his ankle.

"It is a chronic injury. He needs to adapt and understand and accept that he needs to play with this little bit of pain. For a young player it is difficult to accept that because you want to feel 100 per cent and not feel anything in your body and feel free," explained the Spurs boss.

"He has discovered a different feeling and he has to accept that problem can affect you but not affect you in your mind. You need to live with this small thing.
Yeah, I distinctly remember him having a dreadful few matches for us after he recovered from that. Having said that, he did still have the odd decent game that season. Barca at home springs to mind.
 

Wig

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If Everton are keen, hopefully that can help negotiation for Richarlison to come this way.
 

qqq1

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I think a change of scenery could be good for him. I don't think moving to Everton is the change he needs though.
 

JonnyBGood

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I really despise the Winks hate. He is one of our own and although he hasn't reached the heights of Kane, he has surpassed virtually all our other youth talent in the past decade.

Skippy is a talent and has a high ceiling, but he doesn't have that Madrid performance in his locker yet.

Walker-Peters, Onomah, Carter-Vickers, Pritchard, Carroll, Townsend, Caulker and even Mason were never as good as Winks when he was at his best, but that injury seemed to change his trajectory.

Although his time is done at this club, I for one wish him the best and think fondly of the brief time when he was our Iniesta.
 

DJS

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Dec 9, 2006
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If I was in his position and Everton are interested I’d be expecting my agent to go all out and get me a move to Spain!
Sun on his back, earn some great money and play in a league that’d actually suit him, I just don’t understand why more English players don’t go and experience playing in another country.?‍♂️
Yeah I reckon he’d be way more suited for Spain and would actually be pretty successful.

He also seems more suited for the international game as has usually been pretty good for England as well.
 

dtxspurs

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I really despise the Winks hate. He is one of our own and although he hasn't reached the heights of Kane, he has surpassed virtually all our other youth talent in the past decade.

Skippy is a talent and has a high ceiling, but he doesn't have that Madrid performance in his locker yet.

Walker-Peters, Onomah, Carter-Vickers, Pritchard, Carroll, Townsend, Caulker and even Mason were never as good as Winks when he was at his best, but that injury seemed to change his trajectory.

Although his time is done at this club, I for one wish him the best and think fondly of the brief time when he was our Iniesta.
Just because he's better than a bunch of not very good players doesn't mean anything?
 

bc205

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Name me a player who is both gash and a snide ****?

I'm happy that Winks is leaving mainly so that i don't have to read pathetic drivel like this anymore on the site.

Fair enough if you don't like or rate Winks. But what's the point in posting abuse like this? It's just childish nonsense.
 
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