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Apart from a couple of goals against Spurs and Arsenal, and one other against Stoke, the rest of his 12 PL strikers were against sides in the bottom half of the table.

His movement, speed, versatility and instinct for goal are all impressive qualities, but I'm not quite sure he's at the level, or will reach the level required to be a real option for us. Plus he'd be pretty low down on the list of Southampton players I'd like to see us sign.
 

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Apart from a couple of goals against Spurs and Arsenal, and one other against Stoke, the rest of his 12 PL strikers were against sides in the bottom half of the table.

His movement, speed, versatility and instinct for goal are all impressive qualities, but I'm not quite sure he's at the level, or will reach the level required to be a real option for us. Plus he'd be pretty low down on the list of Southampton players I'd like to see us sign.

Who would be above him?
As apart from Shaw and maybe Lallana, I am not sure I would take any of the others over him
 

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Who would be above him?
As apart from Shaw and maybe Lallana, I am not sure I would take any of the others over him

Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Lallana

Rodriguez is a decent versatile forward, but we can do better IMO
 

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Shaw, Chambers, Lovren, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Lallana

Rodriguez is a decent versatile forward, but we can do better IMO

Schneiderlin is a fair shout. Lovren has only ever had one good season and I wouldn't take Ward-Prowse or Chambers over him.

I think you under-rate the lad tbh. As a wide forward he is (was) very effective, he was never going to be a World beater but you have to have a mis of the sublime and work horses to really compete at the top. Rodriguez could undoubtedly add something to us if we want to play 4-3-3 next year.
 

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Schneiderlin is a fair shout. Lovren has only ever had one good season and I wouldn't take Ward-Prowse or Chambers over him.

I think you under-rate the lad tbh. As a wide forward he is (was) very effective, he was never going to be a World beater but you have to have a mis of the sublime and work horses to really compete at the top. Rodriguez could undoubtedly add something to us if we want to play 4-3-3 next year.

He would, but that's if he recovers adequately (as has been beat to death by now). I'd still like to see us pick up a more complete LW regardless, but if Rodriguez is brought in at a fair price along with said LW and a more immediate option at striker, I can't see any reason to be opposed and hope for the best in his recovery.
 

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Schneiderlin is a fair shout. Lovren has only ever had one good season and I wouldn't take Ward-Prowse or Chambers over him.

I think you under-rate the lad tbh. As a wide forward he is (was) very effective, he was never going to be a World beater but you have to have a mis of the sublime and work horses to really compete at the top. Rodriguez could undoubtedly add something to us if we want to play 4-3-3 next year.

If we signed him, I'd be alright with it to be honest for the reasons you've stated, particularly regarding the 4-3-3 formation. But I just feel we could aim a little higher, especially if we'd want to play him as a wide forward. Plus his current injury is quite serious, so that pretty much rules out a move for him this Summer I would have thought.

Lovren has had a good season, but there are other CB's I'd rather we looked at. Chambers looks like a fantastic prospect at RB, really impressed me everytime I've seen him. And Ward-Prowse had an indifferent season, but CM is a harder position to master for a young player. Still has a lot of potential though.
 

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If we signed him, I'd be alright with it to be honest for the reasons you've stated, particularly regarding the 4-3-3 formation. But I just feel we could aim a little higher, especially if we'd want to play him as a wide forward. Plus his current injury is quite serious, so that pretty much rules out a move for him this Summer I would have thought.

Lovren has had a good season, but there are other CB's I'd rather we looked at. Chambers looks like a fantastic prospect at RB, really impressed me everytime I've seen him. And Ward-Prowse had an indifferent season, but CM is a harder position to master for a young player. Still has a lot of potential though.

Agreed, and on the bolded in particular. We need a very immediate impact signing at LW (almost as much, if not more than LB IMO), and buying a guy with a busted knee when there are far better options available than a healthy Rodriguez, for the injured price, just isn't a solid plan going forward.
 

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If he does, he better be wicked cheap and we have plans for more immediate options as well.
 

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Pre injury I would have put him near the top of our striking target list as he's got pace and is very composed in front of goal ... basically another version of Sturridge.

Post injury, unless he's available on the cheap ... I would stay clear and see how he performances between his return and the Jan window. It's not like he's got a calf strain and likely to come back 100%. The ligament damage could affect his best attribute, that being his pace.
 

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Would sooner us wait till Jan. Just seems a daft move now and I can't see how Levy could possibly sanction it.
 

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Just an ACL is not as horrible as some of you are making it out to be. It's a straight-forward recovery. I would have no problem bringing him in. He will be ready before the new season.

 

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Pre injury I would have put him near the top of our striking target list as he's got pace and is very composed in front of goal ... basically another version of Sturridge.

Post injury, unless he's available on the cheap ... I would stay clear and see how he performances between his return and the Jan window. It's not like he's got a calf strain and likely to come back 100%. The ligament damage could affect his best attribute, that being his pace.

Would sooner us wait till Jan. Just seems a daft move now and I can't see how Levy could possibly sanction it.

Agreed. No harm in seeing how it pans out. It seems likely that Saints are set to hemorrhage a significant portion of their young talents anyway, so it's less likely he'll pull up trees on his return, which would dissuade other suitors and keep Saints' price down.

For me though, if we're looking at young, English talent, I'd absolutely love for us to have a swipe at grabbing Danny Ings. Love the way that lad plays and he'd likely be thrilled to play for a big club (passion).
 

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Just an ACL is not as horrible as some of you are making it out to be. It's a straight-forward recovery. I would have no problem bringing him in. He will be ready before the new season.



You're experienced, so I certainly wouldn't argue with you, but it is still a risky business and especially likely for what Saints would want given what they paid. Would still prefer we go after more immediate options, especially at LW.
 

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Agreed. No harm in seeing how it pans out. It seems likely that Saints are set to hemorrhage a significant portion of their young talents anyway, so it's less likely he'll pull up trees on his return, which would dissuade other suitors and keep Saints' price down.

For me though, if we're looking at young, English talent, I'd absolutely love for us to have a swipe at grabbing Danny Ings. Love the way that lad plays and he'd likely be thrilled to play for a big club (passion).

I like Ings too but we should have gone for him last January. I expect Burnley will want circa £15m for him now.

You have to wonder what our scouts have been up to as Ings impressed from start to finish last season, he's young and English ... crying out to snapped up for around £8m early last season.
 

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I like Ings too but we should have gone for him last January. I expect Burnley will want circa £15m for him now.

You have to wonder what our scouts have been up to as Ings impressed from start to finish last season, he's young and English ... crying out to snapped up for around £8m early last season.

No chance they could ask for that much without the Prem experience, even if he's set to play in it next season. But I agree we should have gotten him in January. Thrilled to death Broomfield is back on board to bring some reason and top notch talent evaluation back to Spurs. I think we would've seen a somewhat different scenario with him here last summer, but one that would have significantly improved us nonetheless.
 

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No chance they could ask for that much without the Prem experience, even if he's set to play in it next season. But I agree we should have gotten him in January. Thrilled to death Broomfield is back on board to bring some reason and top notch talent evaluation back to Spurs. I think we would've seen a somewhat different scenario with him here last summer, but one that would have significantly improved us nonetheless.

I agree £15m is high but the closest player to Ings albeit a little bit older is Rhodes and he set Blackburn back £8m 2 years ago.

Yep, hopefully we'll see some quality acquisitions brought in to replace Kaboul, Rose, and Lennon.
 

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I agree £15m is high but the closest player to Ings albeit a little bit older is Rhodes and he set Blackburn back £8m 2 years ago.

Yep, hopefully we'll see some quality acquisitions brought in to replace Kaboul, Rose, and Lennon.

Ings would likely costs around 12 mil or so using Rodriguez' purchase from Saints as a format, and I think he's easily worth it given his promise shown and our need for homegrowns. His style reminds me very much of Sheringham, and I'd be thrilled to see the return of a well-rounded, entertaining English striker back at Spurs (despite not being English myself).
 

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Just an ACL is not as horrible as some of you are making it out to be. It's a straight-forward recovery. I would have no problem bringing him in. He will be ready before the new season.



One of the worst injuries you can ever had. Essien, Cole to name just two were never the same after ACL injuries!
 
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