Jose Mourinho

[SpartanSpur]

No because while I'm now of the opinion he'll go, I'm disgusted by the fact people are happy he has failed.

I appreciate that, I really wanted him to succeed as I want Spurs to succeed.

I really hoped he could provide that edge and experience in big games that the squad is lacking, but the bare minimum was to have a coherent looking football team. I genuinely couldn't tell you where our next win is coming from and that's not right.

I doubt anyone here was shocked at how that game went yesterday which says a lot.

Unfortunately based on the way things are going on the pitch, and seem to be off the pitch I don't see how he turns this round right now so the best news for me would to see him go before things get really ugly.

 

[GutBucket]

Doubt he gets a sack before summer, Aurier not liking him isn't enough. Dele is probably the only other player who will celebrate his sacking, if he still cares. Seems like a type who won't piss off Son's father so it will depend only on his results (and relationship with ENIC). Mourinho will either get a 50m (or so) CB in summer or throw a fit and be happy to get a sack.

 

[Trix]

I am Not happy he has failed,where do I say that
But now that he is serving us this dross week in week out I would be happy if he fucked off
That's not the same mate.

Wasn't aimed at you mate. Just in general. Certain posters on here have been after his failure since day one. With every bad result, a flurry of I told you so posts hit the forum. Well his failure is the clubs failure and no true supporter should ever want that. So I've made the gist of what I'm hearing public but I'll not add to their euphoria or give them any more "it told you so" bullets to fire at the rest of the community.

 

[onthetwo]

What a club this is btw, hire a manager to guarantee us a trophy and probably won't get one.

id even go one better - we hire a manager to get us a trophy and we fire him after we reach the final giving his successor the chance to claim the glory!

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

It really pains me that this is heading in the exact direction I thought it would ?

 

[felmani26]

Jose was brought in for the specific task of winning us silverware and last time I looked, we were still involved in all three cup competitions and one being a final.

Criticise the football by all means but as it stands, he's on ultimately on track to fulfill the remit.

 

[Danfunkel]

No because while I'm now of the opinion he'll go, I'm disgusted by the fact people are happy he has failed.

Agreed. Not proper fans if you want a manager to fail.

 

[Beni]

If true, this losing the dressing room winds me, and sound of the times that players can just down tools because it’s not going their way ‘It’s my ball, so I’mtaking it home now’ attitude on how self entitled importance they hold themselves up as.

Depends who he has lost in the dressing room. If it’s the likes of Kane, Son, Hojbjerg, Reguilon, NDombele etc then I’m worried.
However if it’s an army of the likes of Davies, Dele, Winks, Aurier, Sissoko, Dier, and co. Then my opinion is, go away and run along with your football friends somewhere else.

Extreme example maybe, but Messi don’t want to be at Barcelona anymore, yet you don’t see that stopping him from performing. Difference between a player that loves to play football and has the right mentality.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

id even go one better - we hire a manager to get us a trophy and we fire him after we reach the final giving his successor the chance to claim the glory!

We are getting smacked by City in the final anyway so !

 

[SUIYHA]

José needs to go fast. I really hope we are not planning on moving any players on at this point based on his judgement. We can talk all we want of how bang average Bale, Vinicius, Dele etc are but the sad truth is that players not in Josés core get blamed for his lack of ideas. His subs are so boring and predictable and at times come at stupid times (like when Bale just hit an amazing free kick that Vinicius tapped in an he hauled them both off). Players like Bale and Dele look like the feel the HAVE TO create something special in however few minutes they get while we have players like Bergwijn (Lucas mk2) that are on Josés good side that can run around for 90 minutes doing fuck all and breaking up our counter attacks and still be there, week in, week out.

I'm just so fucking bored with everything José atm, get someone in that has us attacking again. Please.

That Bale and Vinicius substitution really did it for me. Was straight out of the Harry Redknapp playbook of ostracising the reserve players then getting confused as to why they're hopelessly unfit, demotivated and out of form when the first teamers get injured and you need to call on them.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Wasn't aimed at you mate. Just in general. Certain posters on here have been after his failure since day one. With every bad result, a flurry of I told you so posts hit the forum. Well his failure is the clubs failure and no true supporter should ever want that.

Mate I know, I've been around along time to feel the pain.
Relegation year was my first year of going to the lane, I felt real pain so young.

 

[dudu]

It really pains me that this is heading in the exact direction I thought it would ?

You absolutely love that your opinion is feeling vindicated at the moment.

 

[Gbspurs]

I do not think he would, I think he sees Leicester as bigger than us at the moment.

Lets be fair he would be mad to leave them for us

One he gets a chairman that is a known arsehole.

Two - he gets a scouting network that would identify messi as average and Charlie Austin as a world beater.

He will not get the control etc he gets at leicester and yeh, he knows he fucks up with us or does anything wrong hes outta here.

From what I see Rogers is hugely ambitious. Doesn't seem he wants to be a good manager, but he wants to be an elite manager. Leicester are clearly better than us at the moment but I'd say our ceiling and profile is larger.

Ranieri won the league with them and his next job was Nantes. Poch got PSG.

I still think we would be a huge pull for a manager at his level but we shall see.

 

[rez9000]

He's always had a very unpleasant penchant for throwing his players under the bus. He never goes anywhere without having a public falling with at least a couple of players. Whatever you may have thought about them as people the greats don't do that. Ferguson never threw his players under the bus. He protected them. Wenger never threw his players under the bus. He protected them. Klopp has also protected his players. Rogers protects his players. I don't like Mourinho. I haven't since he arrived in this country. Before that I was something of a fan but seeing him at close quarters turned me off him big time. There's no point denying that I was extremely sceptical of his appointment but I think I can say in all honesty that I'm being as objective as I can possibly be when I say that he must be removed and soon for the good of the club.

Ferguson never threw his players under the bus? Sure about that?

February 2000 - David Beckham arrives late for training. Ferguson sends him back to the dressing room. In front of a gaggle of press photographers who had arrived for his pre-match press conference.

April 2009. Speaking of Cristiano Ronaldo: "It's hard when a player who wants to entertain doesn't get everything his own way. But you can't get everything your own way.”

February 2010: Ferguson screams 'Fucking wake up' at Johnny Evans when they were playing against AC Milan in the CL. When asked about it at the post-match, Ferguson said: "Our whole back four were going to get it".

September 2011: Man U - Chelsea. Wayne Rooney misses a penalty. Ferguson after the match: ""I don’t know what Wayne was trying to do with the penalty. I was dumbstruck by that one."

April 2012: Wayne Rooney once more the focus: "I think Wayne is the type of player who has to play on the edge in a game really. When it's a really close and competitive game. When it gets to that casual bit, he's worse than the rest of them. He gets so casual about it.” Rooney had scored twice in a 4-0 drubbing of Aston Villa.

Same month: Chris Smalling in the Manchester Derby gets outjumped by Vincent Kompant. Ferguson's kind-hearted and supportive statement in which in no way did he throw his player under the bus: "If you lose a goal at a set-piece you only have yourself to blame at this level," in direct response to a question about Smalling.

October 2012: Man U had just been beaten in extra time by Chelsea in the League Cup. Ferguson's comments? "Nani decided to try and beat a player, lost the ball and they got a penalty kick against us.” even though it was another player who was responsible for the penalty.

You see, it's very easy to claim objectivity, but when you make errors like that, it very much suggests the opposite.

 

[Hercules]

Mate I know, I've been around along time to feel the pain.
Relegation year was my first year of going to the lane, I felt real pain so young.

Don’t I remember that

 

[rossdapep]

Whatever happened in that Liverpool match at HT must have really rocked the boat.

It seems like it doesn't it.

First half the organisation was fine and we were threatening. Second half was a mix of complete disorganisation, aimless attacking structure and what seemed like players lacking interest. Watching the first half, I did not see that second half coming at all. Thought we'd either get back into it and scrape a draw or come close but lose to a late goal. Yet I didn't see the self destruction.

Self destriction usually comes in the form of mental capacity rather than players just not playing well, because they usually fall back on spirit, determination and the basics. Dier looked rattled, Lloris went back to flapping at stuff, Ndombele disappeared despite looking superb first half, although that could be partly down to change in position and Bergwijn stopped playing too.

That's all mental and considering we did ok first half, something must have happened other than Jose's changes. Did Jose have a row with Aurier and that led to players becoming a bit shaken? Did he have a go at Dier who returned second half with a performance all over the place? We'll never know but I do think something happened to cause the mindset to completely change.

 

[Rosco1984]

No because while I'm now of the opinion he'll go, I'm disgusted by the fact people are happy he has failed.

When we were top of the league for 23 days I was supportive but as soon as we lost at anfield he threw the baby out with the bath water and we haven't seen 433 in the league since and things have gotten worse every week. The football wasn't great when we were top but it was working and I was happy to defend him. But what's happened since is almost amateurish and completely un defendable and I think people are entitled to expect great results if they are being subjected to negative tactics. I spent most of last nights game watching videos on my phone instead of looking at the tv screen and I never miss a game.

 

[onthetwo]

We are getting smacked by City in the final anyway so !

knowing Spurs, we'll win!

 

[bubble07]

What doesn't help matters is every game is on TV. Previous years if we played badly and won and it was a game where people didn't like/couldn't stream or couldn't attend games they would just see the goals bad be satisfied

Now with every minute on screen most fans are starting to see deficiencies with their teams. JM style of player isn't helped that

 

[Wsussexspur]

Can anyone remember the year Poch got sacked, I posted in September he wouldn't make to Christmas. Due to the behind the scenes stuff that was going on his position would become untenable???

Got a few neg reps and disagrees for that post iirc.


Well how far away is valentine's Day?

had a small wager this morning at 8/1 for him being the next manager to go.