What's new

Milan Skriniar

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
41,994
71,424
Not necessarily, just because he doesn’t fit into the system Inter play doesn’t mean he’s not a quality player.

Look at Bale, he doesn’t get a sniff at Real. Hazard, a world class player isn’t a regular starter either. The bigger clubs have big squads full of quality players but they as per everyone else can only pick 11 of them.
When Bale is fit, he should be an automatic starter at Real. He doesnt get a look in because Zidane actively hates him.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
15,291
19,123
When Bale is fit, he should be an automatic starter at Real. He doesnt get a look in because Zidane actively hates him.

I know he hates him. I was using him as an example of how out of favour players can still be quality players.
 

C0YS

Just another member
Jul 9, 2007
12,780
13,817
If Skriniar was so good he'd have been playing a key part in Inter getting to the Europa League final. If we end up doing a straight swap for him with Ndombele i'll be so underwhelmed with our decision making. At the very least it would need to be Skriniar + 20m to be even in my mind.
Mate, Conte is a manager who picked perpetual journeyman and sunderland reject giaccherini ahead of Napoli icon Insigne. Conte likes a certain kind of player. I wouldn't judge Skriniar not playing as being to his ability.

Also Inter would say exactly the same thing about Ndombele. Skriniar if anything has played more. How would that be even?

They are both players who were valued at 60m last summer and didn't play as much as was expected of them. Inter also have Godin, De Vrij and up and coming Bastoni at CB. Those are three very good options. Most Inter fans would tell you Skriniar is the best out of the lot of them (though some would say De Vrij), just doesn't work in Conte's system as well as others.

Before this season if you were to make a list of the top Serie A centre backs it would read, Koulibaly then Skriniar and maybe a few others. He is right up there.
 
Last edited:

King of the Lane

Well-Known Member
Dec 3, 2010
4,143
23,749
The fact that some people dont rate/want Skriniar is laughable. He would easily be out best defender and it was only a season ago that Utd, City etc wanted him but couldnt afford him.

Imagine if Liverpool fans had not wanted VVD because they already had Gomez and Matip lol smh.
 

DiVaio

Well-Known Member
May 27, 2020
4,188
17,459
The fact that some people dont rate/want Skriniar is laughable. He would easily be out best defender and it was only a season ago that Utd, City etc wanted him but couldnt afford him.

Imagine if Liverpool fans had not wanted VVD because they already had Gomez and Matip lol smh.
He could be our best defender but still we shouldn't swap him for Ndombele.
 

emiley heskey

Well-Known Member
Jul 3, 2020
1,121
1,832
How do you know that? Because seems like our fanbase finds somehow leadership and winning mentality in our every target

We were also linked with Matt Doherty. I have not called him leader ... Milan Skriniar's previous manager told he has always been the leader on and off the pitch. He has been described in the media as the successor to former Liverpool icon Skrtel in Slovakia's defensive line.
 

Hotspur88

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2008
3,152
75,220
We were also linked with Matt Doherty. I have not called him leader ... Milan Skriniar's previous manager told he has always been the leader on and off the pitch. He has been described in the media as the successor to former Liverpool icon Skrtel in Slovakia's defensive line.

I'm sorry but I can't take this seriously when I see Skrtel and Icon in the same sentence ?!
 

Jospur

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2011
1,213
2,290
Don’t understand this talk of trading Ndombele for Skriniar.

Ndombele was purchased to control the centre of midfield. That gap is even more glaring if Ndombele leaves and there is no replacement. If the Club is serious about Champions League for next season then we need a top quality player in that role. Winks is not the answer.

If Conte wants Ndombele then we should have Brozovic in return. He’s a quality starter for Inter and, in my opinion, a perfect partner for Hojbjerg in the middle.

With all this talk of limited funds I’m concerned that if the deal is Ndombele for Skriniar then the Club will be seriously short of a quality multi-faceted midfielder and that whoever was brought in to replace Ndombele would not offer the top-class midfielder that’s needed.
 

Sweech

Ruh Roh Ressegnon
Jun 27, 2013
6,752
16,378
Don’t understand this talk of trading Ndombele for Skriniar.

Ndombele was purchased to control the centre of midfield. That gap is even more glaring if Ndombele leaves and there is no replacement. If the Club is serious about Champions League for next season then we need a top quality player in that role. Winks is not the answer.

If Conte wants Ndombele then we should have Brozovic in return. He’s a quality starter for Inter and, in my opinion, a perfect partner for Hojbjerg in the middle.

With all this talk of limited funds I’m concerned that if the deal is Ndombele for Skriniar then the Club will be seriously short of a quality multi-faceted midfielder and that whoever was brought in to replace Ndombele would not offer the top-class midfielder that’s needed.
I think it's a much less needed role under Mourinho.

Controlling a midfield simply isn't his schtick. The ball retention/dribbling/press breaking ability isn't something Mourinho tends to care much about. In fact he seems more than happy to go long if you want to press high.

I'd say the main thing we need is creativity, but I think (at least under Mourinho) that Ndombele is a fairly replaceable piece.

Overall I can imagine us setting up like:
Kane
Son - Alli - Lucas
Lo Celso - Hojbjerg
Davies - Dier - Alderweireld - (New RB [Doherty?])
Lloris
Which can also shift into the 3-5-2 while in possession that Jose was favouring early on. So when looking at that lineup it doesn't scream out needing Ndombele unless you're taking out Alli or Lo Celso.
 

rossdapep

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2011
22,372
80,601
I think it's a much less needed role under Mourinho.

Controlling a midfield simply isn't his schtick. The ball retention/dribbling/press breaking ability isn't something Mourinho tends to care much about. In fact he seems more than happy to go long if you want to press high.

I'd say the main thing we need is creativity, but I think (at least under Mourinho) that Ndombele is a fairly replaceable piece.

Overall I can imagine us setting up like:
Kane
Son - Alli - Lucas
Lo Celso - Hojbjerg
Davies - Dier - Alderweireld - (New RB [Doherty?])
Lloris
Which can also shift into the 3-5-2 while in possession that Jose was favouring early on. So when looking at that lineup it doesn't scream out needing Ndombele unless you're taking out Alli or Lo Celso.
Spot on.

Alli may raise his game and Lo Celso will have a better season with stability behind him.
 

Jospur

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2011
1,213
2,290
I think it's a much less needed role under Mourinho.

Controlling a midfield simply isn't his schtick. The ball retention/dribbling/press breaking ability isn't something Mourinho tends to care much about. In fact he seems more than happy to go long if you want to press high.

I'd say the main thing we need is creativity, but I think (at least under Mourinho) that Ndombele is a fairly replaceable piece.

Overall I can imagine us setting up like:
Kane
Son - Alli - Lucas
Lo Celso - Hojbjerg
Davies - Dier - Alderweireld - (New RB [Doherty?])
Lloris
Which can also shift into the 3-5-2 while in possession that Jose was favouring early on. So when looking at that lineup it doesn't scream out needing Ndombele unless you're taking out Alli or Lo Celso.

Your team looks decent - except (as much as I like him) I don’t see Lo Celso playing to his strengths in deep middle. I really see him and Alli competing for that spot behind Kane. Brozovic on the other hand provides power, leadership and passing ability.
 

Sweech

Ruh Roh Ressegnon
Jun 27, 2013
6,752
16,378
Your team looks decent - except (as much as I like him) I don’t see Lo Celso playing to his strengths in deep middle. I really see him and Alli competing for that spot behind Kane. Brozovic on the other hand provides power, leadership and passing ability.
I don't necessarily think it's Lo Celso's absolute best position but in the 3-5-2 in possession I think he's just about level with Alli on his offensive freedoms.

I also think Mourinho is going to be quite pragmatic with the squad and try to get his "best 11" players out there which means getting Alli and Lo Celso on the pitch together and I think this is likely the way to do it.

On Brozovic I don't know. He's never impressed me when I've seen him for Inter or Croatia, but people seem to really like him (like yourself) so I'm not exactly against it.

Either way whether it's Brozovic or Skriniar I would be expecting some cash along with one of those two if it's an Ndombele swap.
 

Jospur

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2011
1,213
2,290
I don't necessarily think it's Lo Celso's absolute best position but in the 3-5-2 in possession I think he's just about level with Alli on his offensive freedoms.

I also think Mourinho is going to be quite pragmatic with the squad and try to get his "best 11" players out there which means getting Alli and Lo Celso on the pitch together and I think this is likely the way to do it.

On Brozovic I don't know. He's never impressed me when I've seen him for Inter or Croatia, but people seem to really like him (like yourself) so I'm not exactly against it.

Either way whether it's Brozovic or Skriniar I would be expecting some cash along with one of those two if it's an Ndombele swap.

Playing 3-5-2 or similar is an interesting possibility. I wonder whether José will go with that this season. Such a formation change (with Davies one of the back three,for example) would have a massive impact on how players like Bergwijn might be used. And this would of course lessen the need for a player like Skriniar.
 

Sweech

Ruh Roh Ressegnon
Jun 27, 2013
6,752
16,378
Playing 3-5-2 or similar is an interesting possibility. I wonder whether José will go with that this season. Such a formation change (with Davies one of the back three,for example) would have a massive impact on how players like Bergwijn might be used. And this would of course lessen the need for a player like Skriniar.
It's what we did early in his tenure and then he seemed to scrap it once Davies got hurt.

I also didn't watch a lot of the pre-season friendly but apparently we were doing the same thing in possession again.

Also the fact that Doherty seems to be our current #1 target also seems to suggest this may be the case.
 

WiganSpur

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
16,058
32,848
I'd take a swap of Ndombele for Skriniar. Sell Lamela and Foyth so that we can put it towards a mid.
Selling Lamela and Foyth for good prices is very unlikely. A swap with Ndombele basically equates to selling him elsewhere and spunking the whole lot on Skriniar. Is that necessary for a lower priority position?
 

ItsBoris

Well-Known Member
Jan 18, 2011
7,987
9,453
If the itk about Ndombele is true then a swap for Skriniar would be ideal. I'd hope that we'd get some cash in the deal, or we pony up some cash and get Brozovic as well
 
Top