Mounir El Hamdaoui

[SpurSince57]

oh and another thing. most top flight eredivisie clubs will struggle in the championship?

please!

psv will annihilate spurs, let alone az.

i hope you make it into europe and we'll meet eachother in the uefa cup if we don't make it into champion's league this year and you'll see.

arrogant/smug football 'fans' like you really annoy me

eredivisie isnt the only one that is struggling right now, because the money isnt coming in, much like seri a this year.

when countries like ukraine, russia and romania have overcome ligue 1 and other western european leagues than this is obviously a sign meaning the money is better there.

Like PSV 'annihilated' Spurs last year, you mean? By the singularly un-Dutch expedient of packing the box home and away, hitting us on the occasional break and relying on Gomes to keep us out? Setanta show at least one Eredivisie game a week, so it's easy to follow over here (provided you have Setanta, of course). I really enjoy it—it's vastly more entertaining than the tedium of Ligue 1—but to claim that the big Dutch clubs remain a major force in Europe is ludicrous. I'm being neither smug nor arrogant, just stating a fact. In four years PSV have declined from a side able to compete with the very best to also-rans in the CL. Ajax have had one decent CL run since they got to the final in, what, 1996? Or was it 1997? They've recently bombed out to big hitters like DZ and Slavia in the qualifiers (and yes, if only Huntelaar and Suarez could have put two of about 25 chances away it would have been a different story, but they didn't). Nor have they looked remotely like winning the UC. As for Feyenoord…

I also said the top Dutch clubs would struggle in the EPL, not the Championship. However, the likes of Volendam and Heracles make last season's Derby look like Brazil c. 1982.

And clearly you missed my bit about the Dutch league continuing to produce great players. If only it could keep them…

 

[C0YS]

The truth is PSV won thanks to 2 players Gomes and gilberto....and a bit of Farfan too. Those 2 players have left PSV...and therefor struggled in the league as a result. Last year in those two games we were playing some pritty horrid stuff I remember being very angry at ramos for desiding booting it up from Robinson to Berba was our best tactic.....maybe post CC also had something to do with this? PSVonly a couple of years ago were better then us...last year you could argue they were on par with us.But since PSV have gone downhill and weve just got a lot better it will be hard to see a similar result.......

However how wierd it may sound I would love if PSV were better then us for the europian side of me hates the fact that the PL is overpowered and I would love to see more equality in terms of leagues

 

[Bonjour]

I just don't see the logic in letting go on a free someone who has shown at least a bit of potential when there is no risk involved with him. Especially when we let Kanoute go at the same time and ended up with an injury prone Mido and Gregorsz Rasiak.

And yet the likes of Stephen Kelly and Jamie O'Hara, players with very limited ability, actually get a lot of games for us.

You speak as though it was a foregone conclusion that he wanted to stay.

 

[Garm]

Try watching the Dutch league sometime! I watched Ajax v. AZ (without Hammy, who's suspended) on Monday or Tuesday and it was a pretty woeful affair, although it did feature an even funnier penalty than Berbatov's. I think even the top sides would struggle in the EPL, and there are better teams in the Championship and even League One than some of those further down the table.

I don't think any League One side would survive the Eresdivisie.

 

[RussellYid]

beats me how rvp and vd sar have ended up at arsenal and manchester united while they came from the mickey mouse league that is the eredivisie, bergkamp and overmars for arsenal and stam for manchester united have already shown that they can't compete on this level.

good thing you got rid of robben and ruud eh?

You only mention Dutch players. No one on here has for a second suggested Dutch players aren't up to standard. It's the league that isn't.

How long do these guys stay in the Eredivisie? My point was simple. To prove yourself, you need to leave Dutch football. Not go there.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

You could make a similar argument about us letting go of Peter Crouch, fact is you don't know how players will develop and mature. I think there is even an old tale about how the club turned down the chance to sign Zidane.

A lot of posters on here are concerned about letting go of Adel Taraabt, that he might develop into a star, but I honestly can't remember anybody raving about Mounir El Hamdaoui.

I was!

 

[RussellYid]

In reference to people not kicking up a fuss about losing Hamdaoui...

I was!

Now, because I'm really, really bored;

In response to a poster claiming Arnesen found Lennon, Huddlestone, Dawson, Jenas and Robinson, on the 1st February 2007, BBLG said and I quote;

Robinson was Pleat, arranged before either Arnesen, Jol or Santini showed up. Dawson was mainly signed as part of the deal to bring in Andy Reid. Jenas at £7m was not a find and as yet is still not doing it, though i hope he will/ Huddlestone and Lennon were both after arnsesen had left, his last signings for us were Stalteri, Tainio and Routledge. The only players remaining in or around our first team that we can credit to arnesen are Tainio and Stalteri, who lets face it are both mediocre at the very best. Carrick left for big money and was obvious anyway, Davis, Mendes, Pamarot, Edman, Atouba, Davenport, Defendi, Halfredsson, El Hamdaoui, Edson Silva... all gone. There are others too but i can't be arsed to think of any more. I guess the best thing you can attribute him with is arranging the original loan in of Mido, who i say is stil playing an important role for us. Ziegler still here as well but loaned out constantly and never gonna play for us it seems!

Now, I could read into that and say you've coupled El Hamdaoui with Davenport, Defendi, Atouba and the rest of them because you didn't rate him?

But you also go on to claim Mido is "playing an important role for us".

Early you said;

I just don't see the logic in letting go on a free someone who has shown at least a bit of potential when there is no risk involved with him. Especially when we let Kanoute go at the same time and ended up with an injury prone Mido and Gregorsz Rasiak.

Now... no disrespect, but when someone says "I told you so" or something along those lines, it buggers me off a little. That, and I have no job and am bored to the point of no return, I thought I'd dig around! :wink:

Wow, I was SO bored, I didn't even hit "submit reply" When I finished watching the most boring game of snooker ever (49 minutes of Robertson/Murphy) I typed "site:www.spurscommunity.co.uk BringBack_leGin hamdaoui" into google.

Interesting.

On the 14th of December 2007 BBLG said;

countless youngsters making good impacts early on and then disappearing forever (rory allen, neale fenn, paul mahorn, danny hill, john piercy, dean marney, mark gower, el hamdaoui and unfortunately, seemingly, adel taarabt) or making good impacts early on and quickly becoming shite (doherty, thellwell, etherington, davies)

That's it. I'm off to get a life.

Fuck me I talk/type shit. God forbid you did a search of some of the manure that comes from my mouth.

No harm meant BBLG!

 

[Kendall]

haha pwned

 

[deselina]

You only mention Dutch players. No one on here has for a second suggested Dutch players aren't up to standard. It's the league that isn't.

How long do these guys stay in the Eredivisie? My point was simple. To prove yourself, you need to leave Dutch football. Not go there.

you are comparing the dutch league to a league where more money goes around than seri a and la liga put together.

when a team like ajax joins the epl and will benefit from the money pool do you seriously think they will struggle?

yeah sure.

not only will they have the money to afford players like gourcuff, benzema or ribery, they will also have more chance than the likes of everton, city, villa or even spurs just because they are ajax.

not to mention ex players like zlatan, sneijder or huntelaar who have always wanted to play in the epl, so why not with their former love.

you can be back at ajax, have the same wages as their previous club or more and play in the epl.

ajax will struggle? no chance.

 

[RussellYid]

you are comparing the dutch league to a league where more money goes around than seri a and la liga put together.

when a team like ajax joins the epl and will benefit from the money pool do you seriously think they will struggle?

yeah sure.

not only will they have the money to afford players like gourcuff, benzema or ribery, they will also have more chance than the likes of everton, city, villa or even spurs just because they are ajax.

not to mention ex players like zlatan, sneijder or huntelaar who have always wanted to play in the epl, so why not with their former love.

you can be back at ajax, have the same wages as their previous club or more and play in the epl.

ajax will struggle? no chance.

You're starting an argument all by yourself. :duh:

Did I say Ajax would struggle after a few years in the EPL? No. Did I even mention anything about a Dutch team joining the EPL? No. Did I say the reason why the Dutch league is so poor is because of the lack of money? No, but it's a pretty obvious reason.

Should I apologise on behalf of the EPL for having loads of money?

 

[deselina]

russelyid i wasnt necessarily talking to you even though ive quoted you here.

the ajax struggline in the epl thingy comes from spur57

 

[RussellYid]

russelyid i wasnt necessarily talking to you even though ive quoted you here.

the ajax struggline in the epl thingy comes from spur57

In that case, I still love you, you patriotic Dutch Yid! :grin:

 

[SpurSince57]

you are comparing the dutch league to a league where more money goes around than seri a and la liga put together.

when a team like ajax joins the epl and will benefit from the money pool do you seriously think they will struggle?

yeah sure.

not only will they have the money to afford players like gourcuff, benzema or ribery, they will also have more chance than the likes of everton, city, villa or even spurs just because they are ajax.

not to mention ex players like zlatan, sneijder or huntelaar who have always wanted to play in the epl, so why not with their former love.

you can be back at ajax, have the same wages as their previous club or more and play in the epl.

ajax will struggle? no chance.

Could I have made it more crashingly obvious that I believed it was money (or lack of) that is behind the decline of Ajax and Feyenoord in particular? Apparently I could. I find it really sad that clubs with such a fantastic tradition are no longer the European powers they were, but to pretend they are ignores reality.

And, sorry, Ajax would be a mid-table side in the EPL these days.

 

[SpurSince57]

I don't think any League One side would survive the Eresdivisie.

Neither will Volendam. On the other hand, they managed to get into it, which was my point.

 

[nightgoat]

As did Kezman.

Although Kezman hardly got a fair run in the Chelsea team...

 

[SpurSince57]

Although Kezman hardly got a fair run in the Chelsea team...

Possibly because they quickly cottoned on to the fact that they'd signed a turkey?

 

[Kendall]

In that case, I still love you, you patriotic Dutch Yid! :grin:

She ain't no yid. never seen her say anything good about THFC!

 

[RussellYid]

She ain't no yid. never seen her say anything good about THFC!

She!? is she fit?

Gotta be a Yid, surely?

 

[Yid-ol]

She!? is she fit?

Gotta be a Yid, surely?

Unless she is ugly, and then she is a gooner

 

[Bonjour]

I always presumed the avatar was a picture of Deselina. Foxy.