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Mourinho on failure to sign new striker: I cannot lie, it's not easy

SpunkyBackpack

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Make no mistake about it, honeymoon between Daniel and Jose is already over no matter what club leaks out. And if manager has vision on how he wants to play, what is point on experimenting different approaches that won't be used longer term. Again it's Pep and hoofball merchants scenario - Pep, experiment some direct approach??

Could you let me know what the team is tomorrow please? I'll chuck a few quid to SC out of my winnings when i make a fortune out of PaddyPower.
 

Shadydan

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Could you let me know what the team is tomorrow please? I'll chuck a few quid to SC out of my winnings when i make a fortune out of PaddyPower.

LOL I love these defiant posts that are popping up...yep Jose is seriously pissed with Levy NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, it's only a matter of time etc...
 

SpunkyBackpack

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Team without a striker and team unable to play the way Jose would want to?

That's annoyingly unspecific for someone who obviously has a direct connection to the mind of Jose Mourinho. How am i supposed to feed my kids with that sort of inside info?

So please, team for tomorrow thank you.
 

shelfboy68

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I'm starting to think that both Levy and Jose are agreed that this season is a write off...hence the lack of panic buying any old stopgap striker this window.
It'll become clearer with Jose's interviews from now on, if he starts digging the club out for not getting one then I'm wide of the mark.

The fans don't want to hear it, there'll be tears and rage when it comes true, but it's very very likely we won't be a CL club next season.
One season out of the CL won't kill us as a club, 2/3 years out has much bigger implications.
Mate I fully endorse when your saying I have gone on record myself stating that I do not expect anything higher than a 6th place finish at best.
Yes maybe one year out would not kill us however when we are in the CL we hardly go mad spending so I would fully expect the excuses will be out in force during and after the summer.
It's a case of all things spurs related we have to suck it up and think what might have been, although if Jose had come in during the summer I do think we might be more in the mix than we are now because the team hasn't got when it takes to chase the 4th spot down.
 

FinnYid

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That's annoyingly unspecific for someone who obviously has a direct connection to the mind of Jose Mourinho.

You hardly need a direct connection to claim things I've said - more like you need direct link to claim otherwise. Guy has managed over 900 games, guess it's rather safe to say based on those that he very much prefers to have a proper striker and If we are calling all over China on last minutes of transfer window, it's quite clear he was adamant to it to bald Mike Ashley.
 

PLTuck

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In his presser yesterday, Jose was all smiles and laughing. Said of course it's not perfect, but also said he is happy overall with the business we have done. He made a point of saying We don't just want someone who will play for 4 months and then sit on the bench for 2 years. We want someone who can not only slot in now, but also play with Kane.

When he was asked about top 4, he said we are in a fight for top 6 and until its mathematically impossible, we are in the mix for top 3. It appears that everyone from Levy down accepts that we might not be in CL next year, and unsurprisingly have therefore been cautious on spending money for the sake of a body.

He sounded like a man with a clear plan / vision of the next few years, not hanging everything on just the next 4 months.

ITK told us that our 2 signings this month were made possible because of Jose's connections. He's been here 10 weeks. Looks to me like he is being backed.

Some of you need to get a fucking grip.
 

Gb160

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In his presser yesterday, Jose was all smiles and laughing. Said of course it's not perfect, but also said he is happy overall with the business we have done. He made a point of saying We don't just want someone who will play for 4 months and then sit on the bench for 2 years. We want someone who can not only slot in now, but also play with Kane.

When he was asked about top 4, he said we are in a fight for top 6 and until its mathematically impossible, we are in the mix for top 3. It appears that everyone from Levy down accepts that we might not be in CL next year, and unsurprisingly have therefore been cautious on spending money for the sake of a body.

He sounded like a man with a clear plan / vision of the next few years, not hanging everything on just the next 4 months.

ITK told us that our 2 signings this month were made possible because of Jose's connections. He's been here 10 weeks. Looks to me like he is being backed.

Some of you need to get a fucking grip.
Rubbish the honeymoon period is over and Jose is sticking pins in a Levy voodoo doll and will walk.
 

shelfboy68

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In his presser yesterday, Jose was all smiles and laughing. Said of course it's not perfect, but also said he is happy overall with the business we have done. He made a point of saying We don't just want someone who will play for 4 months and then sit on the bench for 2 years. We want someone who can not only slot in now, but also play with Kane.

When he was asked about top 4, he said we are in a fight for top 6 and until its mathematically impossible, we are in the mix for top 3. It appears that everyone from Levy down accepts that we might not be in CL next year, and unsurprisingly have therefore been cautious on spending money for the sake of a body.

He sounded like a man with a clear plan / vision of the next few years, not hanging everything on just the next 4 months.

ITK told us that our 2 signings this month were made possible because of Jose's connections. He's been here 10 weeks. Looks to me like he is being backed.

Some of you need to get a fucking grip.
Jose has got a three year deal I wonder if there is an option to extend that should he get us back in the top four or better still win a trophy.
 

dagraham

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In his presser yesterday, Jose was all smiles and laughing. Said of course it's not perfect, but also said he is happy overall with the business we have done. He made a point of saying We don't just want someone who will play for 4 months and then sit on the bench for 2 years. We want someone who can not only slot in now, but also play with Kane.

When he was asked about top 4, he said we are in a fight for top 6 and until its mathematically impossible, we are in the mix for top 3. It appears that everyone from Levy down accepts that we might not be in CL next year, and unsurprisingly have therefore been cautious on spending money for the sake of a body.

He sounded like a man with a clear plan / vision of the next few years, not hanging everything on just the next 4 months.

ITK told us that our 2 signings this month were made possible because of Jose's connections. He's been here 10 weeks. Looks to me like he is being backed.

Some of you need to get a fucking grip.

I think Jose is quite relaxed because the expectations are lower here than at previous clubs. He’s come in mid season and it’s almost like a free hit.

As for optimism about future seasons I suppose various fans viewpoints will depend on how much faith they have in us delivering in the summer.

As said earlier, one season out of the CL probably won’t hurt us, but it’s not that easy getting straight back in it. We’ll need several quality players in the summer and that costs money. I don’t think just being clever and creative in the market is going to cut it.
 

PLTuck

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I think Jose is quite relaxed because the expectations are lower here than at previous clubs. He’s come in mid season and it’s almost like a free hit.

As for optimism about future seasons I suppose various fans viewpoints will depend on how much faith they have in us delivering in the summer.

As said earlier, one season out of the CL probably won’t hurt us, but it’s not that easy getting straight back in it. We’ll need several quality players in the summer and that costs money. I don’t think just being clever and creative in the market is going to cut it.

I think you're largely correct, but only applies to this season. Next season the pressure will be back on to be in top 4, imo.

We will see what happens in the summer but it seems clear to me that Jose and Baldy are on the same page, for now at least.
 

shelfboy68

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I think Jose is quite relaxed because the expectations are lower here than at previous clubs. He’s come in mid season and it’s almost like a free hit.

As for optimism about future seasons I suppose various fans viewpoints will depend on how much faith they have in us delivering in the summer.

As said earlier, one season out of the CL probably won’t hurt us, but it’s not that easy getting straight back in it. We’ll need several quality players in the summer and that costs money. I don’t think just being clever and creative in the market is going to cut it.
It will be interesting to see what the strategy will be next season without CL which is the likely scenario, your right about the clever and creative bit because that is getting harder to do when even mid table sides are spending bigger.
I think we might see 1/2 of our better players get sold off to raise funds sell before we buy etc, I think without CL money and ENIC lacking in ambition this might be the only way.
 

Shadydan

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Well at least they would have allowed Jose to play the game way he wants to instead of throwing the team into a limbo for half a season.

Wow what an argument, totally thoughtless and illogical but hey let'a sign a striker no matter their ability because it allows Jose to play the same way, what nonsense :LOL:

This was always going to happen, fans are crying at the fact that we didn't sign a striker to cover Kane that it's got to the point where they'd be happy to take anyone despite knowing nothing about them and that players being complete and utter shit.
 
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Seriously?? He should walk away now?? After only being here a few months and already starting to rebuild for the future?? Why do some numpties on here believe Jose to be a mug who signed for us without having any idea about the mechanics of our club?? We’re rebuilding for the future, it may take a while or a couple more transfer windows at the very least but things are definitely happening and I can’t see Jose going anywhere...

Spot on!
Joes genuinely looks like his got a plan and is enjoying life, at spurs then he will do a press conference “the headlines say Jose bemoans no striker signing” but his press conference his laughing have a great time joking which ties in with the ITK about not wanting any of the strikers he wants to build and has a vision.
 

FinnYid

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Wow what an argument, totally thoughtless and illogical but hey let'a sign a striker no matter their ability because it allows Jose to play the same way, what nonsense :LOL:

Thougtless and illogical is to hire a manager whose game pends on having physical striker and force him to play Moura. And we are not talking about any ability, nobody has suggested to hire pub level players. Besides we were after anything resembling a professional striker on last minutes of window yet failed to land anything. So reckon club and mighty bald one was according your standards being thoughtless and illogical too. It was abysmal performance for anyone par Levy Troll Factory.

This was always going to happen, fans are crying at the fact that we didn't sign a striker to cover Kane that it's got to the point where they'd be happy to take anyone despite knowing nothing about them and that players being complete and utter shit.

Well your unkonwn quantity for short term would have hardly been a financial risk so how the hell are we better of without?
 

Shadydan

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Thougtless and illogical is to hire a manager whose game pends on having physical striker and force him to play Moura. And we are not talking about any ability, nobody has suggested to hire pub level players. Besides we were after anything resembling a professional striker on last minutes of window yet failed to land anything. So reckon club and mighty bald one was according your standards being thoughtless and illogical too. It was abysmal performance for anyone par Levy Troll Factory.

Well your unkonwn quantity for short term would have hardly been a financial risk so how the hell are we better of without?

Interesting choice of words...If Jose's game 'pends' on having a target man why didn't we prioritise getting a target man or a striker in? We spent £65m + in Jan for players in positions we didn't necessarily need, I'm pretty sure we would have spent money on a striker if the right profile fit became available, they didn't.

And what you're suggesting is that a striker, any striker would do...if that was indeed the case then we would have have happily pushed the William Jose or Krzystof Piatek deals over the line...we didn't because they are painfully average players and short term options...something that our manager completely understands hence:

We don’t want a striker to just help us now. We want a striker to be good for our future, possibly to play with Harry Kane together in the future. And with the difficulties of the market, it was very, very difficult to find

Reading that Jose understands it perfectly, he understands that the evil Daniel Levy is maybe on the same page as Jose and agrees that it's absolutely pointless buying players for the sake of it, he understands that buying players like Steven Bergwijn will give us another option in the forward positions and will no doubt be an asset in the future...so if our manager understands it why are our fans having trouble accepting it?

A financial risk is buying a player for the short term and only using him for the short term, it's absolutely rank amatuer planning and what desperate clubs do with zero transfer strategy, we're not so desperate to get a 1 in 3 striker in for 4 months who isn't even guaranteed to hit the ground running regardless, that is called a financial risk especially since it allows us to target someone in the summer with the money we didn't spend and then some, it's all about long term planning and patience, something that many of our fans don't seem to have, clearly.

So yeah fans just need to stop being mellow dramatic, you're screaming at the top of your voice that we haven't signed a striker yet you really don't want to understand why we didn't, all to happy to go with the anti ENIC narrative and just because all the cool kids are doing it on social media, it's a load of fekin nonsense tbh.
 

FinnYid

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Interesting choice of words...If Jose's game 'pends' on having a target man why didn't we prioritise getting a target man or a striker in? We spent £65m + in Jan for players in positions we didn't necessarily need, I'm pretty sure we would have spent money on a striker if the right profile fit became available, they didn't.

1) because we have Kane we weren't looking for some 50m option and 2) our priority options to add on the area were not available january. But that doesn't mean that there wasn't a desperate need for short term solution. Why the hell we were calling all over on deadline day If they didn't see it as neccesity.

And what you're suggesting is that a striker, any striker would do...if that was indeed the case then we would have have happily pushed the William Jose or Krzystof Piatek deals over the line...we didn't because they are painfully average players and short term options...something that our manager completely understands hence:

We saw them as short term options and wanted a loan on Piatek. Once that failed we were all over the place trying just to get someone in for short term as our manager wanted just some decent option for half a season. We failed. Well Levy failed.

A financial risk is buying a player for the short term and only using him for the short term, it's absolutely rank amatuer planning and what desperate clubs do with zero transfer strategy, we're not so desperate to get a 1 in 3 striker in for 4 months who isn't even guaranteed to hit the ground running regardless, that is called a financial risk especially since it allows us to target someone in the summer with the money we didn't spend and then some, it's all about long term planning and patience,

Not making short term transfers on case of need is also a financial risk (compare costs of loans to prize money available for example) and no matter what your long term strategy is, uanbility to make short term moves in case of need reeks of ineptitude.

So yeah fans just need to stop being mellow dramatic, you're screaming at the top of your voice that we haven't signed a striker yet you really don't want to understand why we didn't

We didn't because our strategy backfired yet again, we were believing we had Piatek on bag for short term and once Hertha moved we were unable to clinch any other option.
 
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UbeAstard

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Lol, I have given your post above this a 'doh' so you have gone and spammed a post I did this morning, what you wanna be when you grow up Finn?
 

FinnYid

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Lol, I have given your post above this a 'doh' so you have gone and spammed a post I did this morning, what you wanna be when you grow up Finn?

Because it was spam:

Almost every job ive had there are negative whinging people same as on here who disregard what is being done to fix things, disregard the good and positive things and if everything isnt as they want 'RIGHT NOW', its doom and gloom. I just dont bother listening to them.

You claim not listnening, certainly doesn't apply to reading or are you on spree (that's 6 grown up doh's on this thread alone) regarding comments you don't read?
 
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