Next Manager Watch

[Stamford]

Out of interest, why do you reckon that?

Looking at the photos of him from his 51st birthday celebrations he looks lean and ready to go.

Because when he came here it was a unique time at the club, young players he could work with and a few of the big clubs in turmoil. He's walking in to a very different situation which I dont think suits him as a manager. I really think people are being blinded by memories and not the reality of how good he is as a coach.

 

[Metalhead]

Because when he came here it was a unique time at the club, young players he could work with and a few of the big clubs in turmoil. He's walking in to a very different situation which I dont think suits him as a manager. I really think people are being blinded by memories and not the reality of how good he is as a coach.

No-one will want him to fail obviously but if he comes back and the club don't come through for him again, it'll just be like last time where his whole demeanour went downhill and he became withdrawn. I think that people are rightly remembering the earlier rather than the latter part of his tenure.

 

[Stamford]

No-one will want him to fail obviously but if he comes back and the club don't come through for him again, it'll just be like last time where his whole demeanour went downhill and he became withdrawn. I think that people are rightly remembering the earlier rather than the latter part of his tenure.

yep. His moods and flirting with other clubs were worse than anything under conte and everyone has conveniently forgotten it all. I'm honestly really not looking forward to seeing his ineffective squad management or his latest twist on the diamond.

 

[spursfan77]

Because when he came here it was a unique time at the club, young players he could work with and a few of the big clubs in turmoil. He's walking in to a very different situation which I dont think suits him as a manager. I really think people are being blinded by memories and not the reality of how good he is as a coach.

But didn’t he do well at espanyol and Southampton too? I’m not sure we can take much from his time at psg really. I understand your point but I just don’t see the risk in giving him another go if he wants the job. Any manager seems deemed to fail under Levy. I just having one who knows him and has operated under him before is more of an advantage than a disadvantage. A new manager who comes in will fall for levy’s lies. At least Poch is well versed in it all.

 

[spursfan77]

yep. His moods and flirting with other clubs were worse than anything under conte and everyone has conveniently forgotten it all. I'm honestly really not looking forward to seeing his ineffective squad management or his latest twist on the diamond.

No, not at all. It used to drive me mad and I commented on here many times about it. But it’s now become clearer why he was like it. It was having to deal with Levy. Him not distancing himself from those jobs is exactly the same as Conte and his threatening to leave to get what he wants player & money wise. These managers have no other threat in their armoury against Levy other than to play these cards. As much as we don’t like them acting like that, they’ve little choice but to operate in that way.

(a different conversation, but what’s worse, the diamond or the 343? It’s quite a hard one to pick between!)

 

[YB123]

New regime and squad - dont mind Poch

Same players who got him sack, same failed signings still on our books, comments about trophies like League and FA Cup only boost egos - no thank you.

For any supporter who wants Poch back, dont come on here in the future and moan about no silverware.

 

[Timberwolf]

Because when he came here it was a unique time at the club, young players he could work with and a few of the big clubs in turmoil. He's walking in to a very different situation which I dont think suits him as a manager. I really think people are being blinded by memories and not the reality of how good he is as a coach.

I'm not sure about bringing Poch back, but if he does come back he'll still have a pretty young core of players to work with.

Romero, Kulu, Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Skipp, Sarr, Royal, Sess, Rich, Udogie, Porro, Bissouma and Spence are all 27 or younger, with the majority aged between 21-25.

The only true oldies are Perisic and Lloris who both already have one foot out the door due to their contract situations. Dier and Davies are getting on but are good characters and fine as squad players. That leaves the only 2 likely first teamers which are 'old' as Kane and Son who are both world class (well...Son is when in form).

Assuming we sign 3-4 new players in the summer including a younger CB, a Lloris replacement and a successor to Son, the age profile of squad is pretty similar to the one Poch had when he arrived. Might even be younger.

 

[Stamford]

I'm not sure about bringing Poch back, but if he does come back he'll still have a pretty young core of players to work with.

Romero, Kulu, Bentancur, Hojbjerg, Skipp, Sarr, Royal, Sess, Rich, Udogie, Porro, Bissouma and Spence are all 27 or younger, with the majority aged between 21-25.

The only true oldies are Perisic and Lloris who both already have one foot out the door due to their contract situations. Dier and Davies are getting on but are good characters and fine as squad players. That leaves the only 2 likely first teamers which are 'old' as Kane and Son who are both world class (well...Son is when in form).

Assuming we sign 3-4 new players in the summer including a younger CB, a Lloris replacement and a successor to Son, the age profile of squad is pretty similar to the one Poch had when he arrived. Might even be younger.

I dont think he will be able to handle the likes of Kane and Son tbh. I genuinely think his approach tactically doesnt suit Kane either, he wont be pressing anymore and that is fundamental to Poch's entire approach.

Personally i think what we need to get over the line as a club is real quality in their prime alongside the young core. All of these reasons just makes me not want him back.

 

[Timberwolf]

I dont think he will be able to handle the likes of Kane and Son tbh. I genuinely think his approach tactically doesnt suit Kane either, he wont be pressing anymore and that is fundamental to Poch's entire approach.

Personally i think what we need to get over the line as a club is real quality in their prime alongside the young core. All of these reasons just makes me not want him back.

Yeah fair enough - I see what you mean.

I think the Kane situation will have a huge bearing on the club's future in many ways. If he re-signs any incoming manager will need to figure out how to maximise his brilliance while working around his limited pressing ability. If he leaves then that could open up more tactical opportunities (e.g. high line/pressing game) but we lose our one current world class player and talisman.

Will surely be a huge sliding doors moment for the future of the club.

 

[H-SF]

I dont think he will be able to handle the likes of Kane and Son tbh. I genuinely think his approach tactically doesnt suit Kane either, he wont be pressing anymore and that is fundamental to Poch's entire approach.

Personally i think what we need to get over the line as a club is real quality in their prime alongside the young core. All of these reasons just makes me not want him back.

Firstly, Kane is probably leaving. Secondly, we need to press high whoever our next manager is. All the best teams press high nowadays. We won't be competitive and win trophies if we continue this passive style.

 

[spurs mental]

Firstly, Kane is probably leaving. Secondly, we need to press high whoever our next manager is. All the best teams press high nowadays. We won't be competitive and win trophies if we continue this passive style.

We won't be competitive regardless of style under the current ownership. They don't want us to be. Happy go finish top 4 but go no further. The club is ready and built for success, but it's run for financial sustainability. We will not progress under another manager save for the football might better to watch depending on what your preference is on that side.

 

[Metalhead]

We won't be competitive regardless of style under the current ownership. They don't want us to be. Happy go finish top 4 but go no further. The club is ready and built for success, but it's run for financial sustainability. We will not progress under another manager save for the football might better to watch depending on what your preference is on that side.

And a press requires a relatively regular updating of personnel as the players just get old/shagged out and can't maintain that demanding style. That's what happened with Poch and what's happening with Klopp.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I like Frank too but if you watch Brentford he doesn't.

It's counter-attacking, very long ball, and direct.

Maybe that's best for Brentford, maybe he'd chaange the style to suit our squad, that's the kind of coach we need. Not a 'my way or the highway' kind, like we have now.

 

[robertgoulet]

I want Poch only so the loud ones can stop clambering for Poch. Anyone else hired is going to have to deal with a sizable % of the fanbase crying out for Poch if they don't win early. At least with Poch if he fails we can finally be done with him and if he doesn't fail, great.

 

[Metalhead]

Maybe that's best for Brentford, maybe he'd chaange the style to suit our squad, that's the kind of coach we need. Not a 'my way or the highway' kind, like we have now.

Would he though? Do we know that he's more flexible than Conte?

 

[IamSpurtacus]

All the best teams press high

Real Madrid don’t

Not all the best teams do.

We press high as we need to

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Firstly, Kane is probably leaving. Secondly, we need to press high whoever our next manager is. All the best teams press high nowadays. We won't be competitive and win trophies if we continue this passive style.

A lot gets said about us being unable to play a front foot and pressing style because of Kane but the 2 main clubs linked with him (Utd and City) both dominate possession and play on the front foot!

So they clearly feel he can be easily accommodated.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Maybe that's best for Brentford, maybe he'd chaange the style to suit our squad, that's the kind of coach we need. Not a 'my way or the highway' kind, like we have now.

But why higher a manager in the hope he will change his style when you can get a different managers whose style you know fits?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

A lot gets said about us being unable to play a front foot and pressing style because of Kane but the 2 main clubs linked with him (Utd and City) both dominate possession and play on the front foot!

So they clearly feel he can be easily accommodated.

I actually don’t see Kane as much of a problem as I do Son. You can still play a high press if your have one of your front line less mobile but Son just doesn’t have the drive and mentality to press. At least not that I’ve seen in recent years. Son AND Kane I can see as an issue, just Kane I don’t so much. You can make up for lack of pace by good positioning and two wing forwards on ether side who are more energetic

 

[H-SF]

Real Madrid don’t

Not all the best teams do.

We press high as we need to

That's why Real Madrid suffer domestically. They drop points in tonnes of league games. Barca have been better this season with a high pressing style. Not to mention, City, Arsenal, Liverpool (of late), Bayern etc all press high and these are the best teams in Europe.