Next Manager Watch

[zepstar]

The only silver lining to all this is that Daniel Levy has never been more exposed than he is right now. No manager. No director of football. Dismal league finish. Second rate squad. PR disaster after PR disaster. Fan favourite just signed up with rivals.

Whilst it won’t actually change anything, the whole world can see an active crime scene and Daniel Levy is very much in the boardroom arguing down the price of a lead pipe.

 

[septicsac]

I'm sure Graham Potter will be in with a shout, Levy wanted him before and now he is free. I know his time at Chelsea didn't go so well but they have a ton of problems.

We also have problems, just as many if not more than Chelsea, this is what worries me about Potter

 

[wrd]

Yep. Not really trying to score points. If I had left an ex-employer under 'strained circumstances' I certainly wouldn't return, unless there had been a significant change in personnel and approach. But that's just me!

I think I would if it was similar to Steve Jobs and Apple where the company basically held it hands up and said, we're sorry, you were right, please come back and we won't get in your way. I think Poch feels that he has unfinished business here but evidently, that time has not come and looks like it won't. That's why I think we need another outcome to reveal our mistakes to ourselves.

I'm at the point now where, whatever it takes, whatever it takes for Spurs to see the mistakes they're making, even if Arsenal have to win the Champions League and Chelsea the domestic treble in the same season, whatever it takes to make this board have that realisation. I think it's the difference between suffering for 1/2 more seasons as opposed to another 20.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Always worth remembering that we pay the highest ticket prices in the world. We deserve better.

What the club is “offering” us right now is so much worse than that. Even if we weren’t one of the richest clubs in Europe, had arguably the best stadium, and as you said charged the highest ticket prices in the world, their stewardship of the club is just downright negligent. It’s seriously that bad, in my mind. Just unrelenting failure.

 

[spursfan77]

Our season ended yesterday. European leagues still going and cup finals to play. It was always going to take until into June until we appointed anyone. Keep whining every day though, I’m sure that will make it go quicker.

Nagelsmann, Enrique out of work and possibilities. Other managers might be more willing to talk to us now their seasons are over. Not long to wait now chaps. Nobody knows what’s going on, so let’s just wait and see. There’s better options available than in 2021, keep telling yourselves that.

 

[greaves]

I think I would if it was similar to Steve Jobs and Apple where the company basically held it hands up and said, we're sorry, you were right, please come back and we won't get in your way. I think Poch feels that he has unfinished business here but evidently, that time has not come and looks like it won't. That's why I think we need another outcome to reveal our mistakes to ourselves.

I'm at the point now where, whatever it takes, whatever it takes for Spurs to see the mistakes they're making, even if Arsenal have to win the Champions League and Chelsea the domestic treble in the same season, whatever it takes to make this board have that realisation. I think it's the difference between suffering for 1/2 more seasons as opposed to another 20.

Yes. I see that. I do think the pain we will have to endure may be quite substantial.. I think for example of Man City's travails. For the good of the patient it may mean relegation is required to bring significant decision-makers to their senses. Philosophically, if that's what it takes, I am fine with that. Viscerally, though, I'd go out of my f*****g mind!

 

[spursfan77]

I dot mind watching Brentford, I think they have some good players. Have a feeling he maybe a coach that would be able to adapt his style to what he has. Like I said though I’m not sure

He’s a very modern day open minded manager. He was on the Sky Sports mental health programme and is a very switched on bloke. We could do much worse. What he’s done with that Brentford team is pretty remarkable. Not saying I want him but I’m not saying he’d be a disaster either. Plus he’s on board with that data driven recruitment model we seem to want to drive now.

 

[jakuba]

With Poch going to Chelsea I'm going to risk an unpopular comment. Of course my first hope is our board suddenly has a wonderful life visit and see's the error of their ways and gets out of their own way.

However, assuming that doesn't happen and the board repeat recent mistakes. I think the best thing that can happen for Spurs (here comes the deep water), is that Poch wins the league or does something significant with Chelsea, not saying he will but I'm saying it would be the best thing for Spurs in the long run.

The reason I think this is because they could have brought Poch back, they made the decision they made and so if he ends up absolutely smashing it with Chelsea, the board will not be able to escape what's staring them in the face that this was their own doing. Now I'm not saying that Joe Lewis will fire them all or heads will roll, I'm saying that they won't be able to hide from their decision, they will be forced to come to terms with the uncomfortable emotion of that. Spurs fans will be so angry that they will not allow it to be forgotten if Pochettino goes to Chelsea and succeeds and we're fumbling around with Nuno mark 2.

I thought the same if Arsenal won the league, the club wouldn't be able to hide behind the bigger clubs excuses and that the embarrassment of Arsenal winning before us given our position would mean that some internal investigation would have to take place. They escaped that but this is bigger, they decided Poch was not the person to bring back, he's not at our rival and our board best hope they made the right choice because it will be scorched earth time from the Spurs fans.

Tbh the likelihood is slim as that's a hell of a difficult job he's got to contend with at Chelsea but I'm adamant that if people make decisions that sometimes, the only way they'll dare look at themselves to learn is to suffer the worse possible consequence, this would be it.

They were already under pressure to get the right manager but now with Poch going Chelsea, the tension is at snapping point to make the correct decision.

I would agree with you that this is the logical assumption and what I would hope to happen in this circumstance.

But this summer and 2021 has sadly shown that our board does not operate in a way that logic would dictate. At least insofar as the football side of things. There is such a great deal of disconnect I’d not be surprised if they expected us to be happy for Poch since we loved him so much.

Short of a miracle (that I’m still holding out for) I can’t see much changing with the current regime.

 

[olithfc]

Our season ended yesterday. European leagues still going and cup finals to play. It was always going to take until into June until we appointed anyone. Keep whining every day though, I’m sure that will make it go quicker.

Nagelsmann, Enrique out of work and possibilities. Other managers might be more willing to talk to us now their seasons are over. Not long to wait now chaps. Nobody knows what’s going on, so let’s just wait and see. There’s better options available than in 2021, keep telling yourselves that.

It’s slightly nonsensical to say it was always going to take till June and then cite nagelsmann and Enrique who are free agents and were available from a while ago.
It also ignores that two other big clubs (Bm and chelsea) managed to sort out this mess before June.
It didn’t need to take this long. It has because those that run the club are found out for their incompetence

 

[spursfan77]

Rumblings!!! lol. This has been 'unofficially' acknowledged by ITK for a while now, and not that I'm ITK (or maybe this is), but I've had it confirmed to me by someone directly associated with FP (I'll say no more) that he is indeed holed up in a bunker somewhere working directly with DL, not employed by the club. Freelance, contracting, zero-hours, gig-economy worker... whatever you want to refer to it as... Until Munn officially starts, and until we have a DoF and a manager... this is what is going on. (and it's permitted by FIFA before anyone asks that question, reduced footballing capacity allowed).

Believe, don't believe, pinch of salt, whatever. Just my 2 cents.

That’s fine by me if he’s helping us to have a smooth handover. Probably the first sensible move I’ve heard us do in recent months.

 

[CookieYiddo]

Im pretty confident this managerial search ends with Rodgers or Potter. I think it will get dragged out for another 3 or 4 weeks of dragging out and of getting "close" to different managers. Before, out of relative nothingness, it will break that Rodgers is about to sign and be done within 24hrs

 

[spursgirls]

Tbf, Poch may not have wanted to come.

Mabbsy told a friend about 10 days ago that Poch would have dumped Chelsea and come to us...

 

[wrd]

I would agree with you that this is the logical assumption and what I would hope to happen in this circumstance.

But this summer and 2021 has sadly shown that our board does not operate in a way that logic would dictate. At least insofar as the football side of things. There is such a great deal of disconnect I’d not be surprised if they expected us to be happy for Poch since we loved him so much.

Short of a miracle (that I’m still holding out for) I can’t see much changing with the current regime.

I think the social experiment is now clear; what is it going to take before the board look themselves in the mirror and see themselves and whose caused their own misery

I'm sure they're not ignoring it, the feelings of misery, I'm sure they do actually feel angry at the situation. I reckon they simply blame other factors and do some navigation to convince themselves it's not their fault and the fans don't understand.

 

[spursfan77]

It’s slightly nonsensical to say it was always going to take till June and then cite nagelsmann and Enrique who are free agents and were available from a while ago.
It also ignores that two other big clubs (Bm and chelsea) managed to sort out this mess before June.
It didn’t need to take this long. It has because those that run the club are found out for their incompetence

Slot was first choice though wasn’t he? We had to wait until he tied up the title to talk to him. Nagelsmann we couldn’t appoint before their season ends without large compensation. Enrique may be well down the list. Chelsea wanted Poch we didn’t (he was second choice when they went for potter so was always going to be the next cab off the rank there).

Plus then there’s the DoF situation to deal with. That’s the one I actually can’t believe we haven’t sorted. Much more than the manager anyway, which was always going to take until now. If we are still sitting here in 2 weeks with no appointments then that’s the time to get annoyed. But not yet.

 

[barry]

Not been on this thread since first thing this morning so just caught up, it turns out Tuchel is leaving Bayern and now he's not as it was a false story, no surprise there then but in the mean time lots of people saying no way do we want Tuchel here.
Is that where we are? Really? The fucking state of this club but we should say on yer bike to a manager of his standing? I think some of us might need a reality check.

I don't want him. The true reality check is this buddy: I'm sure he's probably (one of) the best mangers we can get by reputation, and achievements, BUT why suffer his shit football when Levy ain't going to back him. He's gonna be another bitch arse mofo serving up footballing tripe. If we were serious about competing, I could understand the hiring, even if I still don't love his football. You my friend are failing into the Conte/Mourinho trap of wanting the biggest name available.

 

[greaves]

Mabbsy told a friend about 10 days ago that Poch would have dumped Chelsea and come to us...

Didn't know this. Well... Well.. Not so well...

 

[dontcallme]

Not been on this thread since first thing this morning so just caught up, it turns out Tuchel is leaving Bayern and now he's not as it was a false story, no surprise there then but in the mean time lots of people saying no way do we want Tuchel here.
Is that where we are? Really? The fucking state of this club but we should say on yer bike to a manager of his standing? I think some of us might need a reality check.

The last thing any of us want is another manager based on their stature.

He's either the right fit for us or he isn't. Some think he's right for us, some don't.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Kane will be at UTD. At this point of his career he needs multiple chances of winning shit + extra cash. We won’t be offering that next year and the year after is a gamble. If I’m Kane I’m off.

Why go to UTD?

they haven't won the league in a decade. With City looking they way they are it doesn't look like they are goin to win the league any time soon.

Pointless transfer for him.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Why go to UTD?

they haven't won the league in a decade. With City looking they way they are it doesn't look like they are goin to win the league any time soon.

Pointless transfer for him.

Play champions league football while prob winning a domestic cup or two or stay here and be around mid table with fans booing the club every week

 

[tommo84]

Im pretty confident this managerial search ends with Rodgers or Potter. I think it will get dragged out for another 3 or 4 weeks of dragging out and of getting "close" to different managers. Before, out of relative nothingness, it will break that Rodgers is about to sign and be done within 24hrs

You might well be right (I predicted last week it would end up with us appointing Rogers or Mason), and if it were Rogers I know most of our fans will be up in arms (I certainly wouldn’t be happy). The thing about Rogers is, if we have a decent DoF in place who actually succeeds in cultivating and supporting an on-field identity with recruitment tailored to suit it, Rogers could do a decent job in getting us playing better football and creating some momentum. The issue is Rogers isn’t the most likeable manager and history suggests he’d only give us a couple of good years before it went downhill. But if the DoF is doing their job well, those couple of years might be enough to get us back to a place where we can be competitive under a better coach. But it’s currently hard to see us doing any better than ‘steadying the ship’ under the next appointment and that’s rather damning.