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Slot was first choice though wasn’t he? We had to wait until he tied up the title to talk to him. Nagelsmann we couldn’t appoint before their season ends without large compensation. Enrique may be well down the list. Chelsea wanted Poch we didn’t (he was second choice when they went for potter so was always going to be the next cab off the rank there).

Plus then there’s the DoF situation to deal with. That’s the one I actually can’t believe we haven’t sorted. Much more than the manager anyway, which was always going to take until now. If we are still sitting here in 2 weeks with no appointments then that’s the time to get annoyed. But not yet.
We disagree slightly on timings, fine. If they had targeted slot as number one and didn’t get him then they have failed there. They also targeted tuchel and didn’t get him and failed there. They probably went after JN before slot and the talks were killed. Slot really was the 3rd choice (after ignoring poch).
Agree totally re dof, it’s nuts they can’t get someone in
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Kane will be at UTD. At this point of his career he needs multiple chances of winning shit + extra cash. We won’t be offering that next year and the year after is a gamble. If I’m Kane I’m off.
I think the new manager will get one more season of Kane because he will run his contract down and then go to city and Haaland will go to Madrid. If not then Man.U can pick him up on a free or even Chelsea if Poch is smashing it there but doubt he’d make that move.

Either way I think he’ll run his contract down.

It’s interesting about the ITK that Slot possibly wanted to sell Kane and Son and clear the decks, tbh I would’ve liked to have seen that under Slot just a complete rebuild with a decent budget but not many other managers I’d trust to do that in which case Kane staying for one more season would be best.
 

lobob8

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I think the new manager will get one more season of Kane because he will run his contract down and then go to city and Haaland will go to Madrid. If not then Man.U can pick him up on a free or even Chelsea if Poch is smashing it there but doubt he’d make that move.

Either way I think he’ll run his contract down.

It’s interesting about the ITK that Slot possibly wanted to sell Kane and Son and clear the decks, tbh I would’ve liked to have seen that under Slot just a complete rebuild with a decent budget but not many other managers I’d trust to do that in which case Kane staying for one more season would be best.
Just curious as to what about Slot would lead you to believe that selling both of our best players would be a good thing? That's how we got 2 points from 8 games remember.
 

Japhet

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You might well be right (I predicted last week it would end up with us appointing Rogers or Mason), and if it were Rogers I know most of our fans will be up in arms (I certainly wouldn’t be happy). The thing about Rogers is, if we have a decent DoF in place who actually succeeds in cultivating and supporting an on-field identity with recruitment tailored to suit it, Rogers could do a decent job in getting us playing better football and creating some momentum. The issue is Rogers isn’t the most likeable manager and history suggests he’d only give us a couple of good years before it went downhill. But if the DoF is doing their job well, those couple of years might be enough to get us back to a place where we can be competitive under a better coach. But it’s currently hard to see us doing any better than ‘steadying the ship’ under the next appointment and that’s rather damning.


To give Chelsea a free run at Pochettino and end up with Brendan Rodgers would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
 

Bing

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Why go to UTD?

they haven't won the league in a decade. With City looking they way they are it doesn't look like they are goin to win the league any time soon.

Pointless transfer for him.
I agree with this but it depends a lot on who we appoint as manager and DOF.

At the end of the day, for Kane it comes down to where he has the best chance in the next 2-3 seasons of winning a trophy. With JN as our manager, a good DOF and a willingness to spend on the players we need does he really have a singificantly better chance at United at winning things? I don't think so.

Now put Brendan Rodgers in there, faff about with the DOF appointment and give Dier another contract instead of singing a CB and things start to look very different.

It's on us really.
 

DenverSpur

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Please allow me to unbaffle you :D

Joe Lewis doesn't give a flying fingerbang about the football club other than what the ROI is.
But the truth is his ROI could/would have been much higher if Levy had been more competent in running the football side of things. How much more money do you think we would have earned if Paul Barber, for example, had been exclusively in charge of the football side of things for the last 20 years?
 

Tezza1978

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To give Chelsea a free run at Pochettino and end up with Brendan Rodgers would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
As per my earlier post, the optics of either that or appointing Potter are just shocking for Levy. Spurs socials will get roasted, the media will be on their back, fans up in arms and neither will get ANY time whatsoever

It's why I am still reasonably confident this won't happen (but I would be only marginally happier with Big Ange sadly... who is it least more of a personality and doesn't have the tons of baggage of the other 2)
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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Play champions league football while prob winning a domestic cup or two or stay here and be around mid table with fans booing the club every week

It's the first time we've not had Europe in 13 years. We've probably been in the Champions League more consistently over the last 10 years.

Kane isn't going to leave his boyhood club for a punt at a domestic Cup.

He might leave for a guaranteed title. Only City can guarantee that at the moment.

For me, it is far more likely that he runs his contract down, then moves to City on a free like Sheringham did to United all those years ago.

Moving to United right now makes zero sense for anyone hunting a Premier League or Champions League winners medal.

I would bet the mortgage that Ten Hags United will never finish above Pep's City.
 

Tucker

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To give Chelsea a free run at Pochettino and end up with Brendan Rodgers would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
It will. But that’s where we are now. I’m not saying we are going to get Rodgers, but people need to build a fucking bridge and get over the whole Poch thing.
 

Japhet

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As per my earlier post, the optics of either that or appointing Potter are just shocking for Levy. Spurs socials will get roasted, the media will be on their back, fans up in arms and neither will get ANY time whatsoever

It's why I am still reasonably confident this won't happen (but I would be only marginally happier with Big Ange sadly... who is it least more of a personality and doesn't have the tons of baggage of the other 2)


As far as I'm concerned, with Slot off the table, the only acceptable appointment is Nagelsmann, no matter the cost or how much humble pie Levy has to eat.
 

jpascavitz

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I think the new manager will get one more season of Kane because he will run his contract down and then go to city and Haaland will go to Madrid. If not then Man.U can pick him up on a free or even Chelsea if Poch is smashing it there but doubt he’d make that move.

Either way I think he’ll run his contract down.

It’s interesting about the ITK that Slot possibly wanted to sell Kane and Son and clear the decks, tbh I would’ve liked to have seen that under Slot just a complete rebuild with a decent budget but not many other managers I’d trust to do that in which case Kane staying for one more season would be best.

Is it bad that I don't consider the Kane saga/drama as a huge factor in all of this? This is one rare occasion where myself personally thinks it's Kane's choice to decide if he wants to leave this Summer, sign a new deal, or stay and see his contract out. I'm just at the point where he's that status to us, and think are only few players in the history of the club that would deserve that option IMO.

I think for whoever the next manager it is it is MORE important to clear out over 10-15 plus players that are causing squad bloat than to make a decision on Kane. He has the right attitude and I don't personally think he'd cause problems here for another season.

Of course, there's a variety of opinions and all are valid - but at the end of the day usually for a rebuild to work a new manager needs to be able to put his stamp on the attitude and buy in of the squad and I could like 15 players in our squad alone that could cause more issues hanging around the club than Kane.
 

HedgieSpur

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The style of play would be a concern but harsh to say T.Frank is dull and boring, I think of Nuno when I think of Dull and Boring, T.Frank is very likeable as a person.

He isnt really the personality I'd want given the task at hand but nothing really against him. tbf. The football they play is pretty direct at times and Im not convinced its just because of the players they have.
 

Tottenhamboy85

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It's the first time we've not had Europe in 13 years. We've probably been in the Champions League more consistently over the last 10 years.

Kane isn't going to leave his boyhood club for a punt at a domestic Cup.

He might leave for a guaranteed title. Only City can guarantee that at the moment.

For me, it is far more likely that he runs his contract down, then moves to City on a free like Sheringham did to United all those years ago.

Moving to United right now makes zero sense for anyone hunting a Premier League or Champions League winners medal.

I would bet the mortgage that Ten Hags United will never finish above Pep's City.
I think he’ll prob stay but more due to levy asking to much than any loyalty to the club.

Also if you don’t think United is a huge draw for him then you’re misguided imo
 

For the love of Spurs

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But the truth is his ROI could/would have been much higher if Levy had been more competent in running the football side of things. How much more money do you think we would have earned if Paul Barber, for example, had been exclusively in charge of the football side of things for the last 20 years?

let’s say we are worth £3bn if we where a much better run club on the football side then could be another half a billion or more on top.

However I don’t think Joe Lewis would understand that as a lot of it is not easy to quantify. Win the league you could get X more sponsorship but what is the X number, it would be hard to tell.

Stadiums, hotels etc a lot easier to see and price. Football is heavily based on emotion and that emotion generates money but I think Levy and Lewis are a bit colour blind on this aspect.

I agree with you, Paul Barber as Chairman and a well run team would make us more valuable while Levy could concentrate on property. However Levy won’t lose control and Lewis probably won’t understand.
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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I don't want him. The true reality check is this buddy: I'm sure he's probably (one of) the best mangers we can get by reputation, and achievements, BUT why suffer his shit football when Levy ain't going to back him. He's gonna be another bitch arse mofo serving up footballing tripe. If we were serious about competing, I could understand the hiring, even if I still don't love his football. You my friend are failing into the Conte/Mourinho trap of wanting the biggest name available.
I'm not falling into anything, dismissing a manager of his standing is deluded. I'm sure plenty of us want to see a coach building a team playing better football than we've seen lately including me but I still think some of us need a reality check.
 

Timbo Tottenham

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Under its planning permission, the club is only allowed to host 16 non-Spurs events a year, of which not more than 6 can be music concerts.

The other events help but the purpose of the club and the overwhelming source of its revenues is the football.
And they’re breaking that by hosting an extra Beyoncé date:
 
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